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[#] Thu Apr 28 2022 18:35:30 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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They've been telling us for YEARS that if we don't like twitter, we
can build our own platform.  Now that twitter is sold, lefties are
freaking out and not a single one of them is saying "I'm building a
new platform."  No, all of them are just "where do we go now?"  The
thought of building some new amazing platform isn't crossing their
minds.  It is purrplexing.

1. The way you are using first-person plural pronouns suggests that you are on the side of freedom, no-censorship, possibly even right-leaning. If that is the case, yay! So happy to have you here among us.

2. If they want their own platform, then they should ... (wait for it) ... LEARN TO CODE! haha

[#] Thu Apr 28 2022 18:37:45 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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I have to assume that if Elon spent $44M he has a plan. It probably isn't the same plan any of us are guessing, short of the obvious stuff about un-banning people. And no, I don't expect any of the whiners to leave Twitter; after all, they didn't move to Canada in 2016 like they promised they'd do.

In a perfect world, Twitter would add some federation protocols so that people could follow others across sites.

[#] Thu Apr 28 2022 22:59:32 EDT from LadySerenaKitty

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Thu Apr 28 2022 18:35:30 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar
1. The way you are using first-person plural pronouns suggests that you are on the side of freedom, no-censorship, possibly even right-leaning. If that is the case, yay! So happy to have you here among us.

2. If they want their own platform, then they should ... (wait for it) ... LEARN TO CODE! haha

Ya, I am right leaning.  Freedom?  Everyone deserves freedom.  Censorship?  Nah.  I'm really close to being a free-speech absolutist.  If you follow a recent twitter conversation between me and @Tigersharke, you can even find a little snip of what I think should be done with illegals.



[#] Fri Apr 29 2022 11:50:58 EDT from Nurb432

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I also think everyone should get a say.

I'm even a bit grey about things like slander and 'organizing bad things'.   ( slander, well, should be some ramifications if you do lie to hurt others, but still,  you should be able to say it .. and organizing.. at one point our founding fathers organized a revolution ..  so a bit torn on that too.  )

Thu Apr 28 2022 10:59:32 PM EDT from LadySerenaKitty

 

Thu Apr 28 2022 18:35:30 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar
1. The way you are using first-person plural pronouns suggests that you are on the side of freedom, no-censorship, possibly even right-leaning. If that is the case, yay! So happy to have you here among us.

2. If they want their own platform, then they should ... (wait for it) ... LEARN TO CODE! haha

Ya, I am right leaning.  Freedom?  Everyone deserves freedom.  Censorship?  Nah.  I'm really close to being a free-speech absolutist.  If you follow a recent twitter conversation between me and @Tigersharke, you can even find a little snip of what I think should be done with illegals.



 



[#] Fri Apr 29 2022 18:06:35 EDT from Nurb432

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"so now that we cant control twitter, how about we create a 'ministry of truth' to control ALL online speech"



[#] Fri Apr 29 2022 18:21:10 EDT from zelgomer

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2022-04-29 22:06 from Nurb432 <nurb432@uncensored.citadel.org>
"so now that we cant control twitter, how about we create a 'ministry
of truth' to control ALL online speech"


Damn you beat me to it. I just spent 10 minutes scrolling through this room's history looking for the posts about the UK's new ministry of truth so that I could quote it and say "hey now we've got our very own!" I'm starting to think maybe that didn't happen in this room...we sure have posted a lot about Ukraine here.

[#] Sat Apr 30 2022 00:01:04 EDT from LadySerenaKitty

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Fri Apr 29 2022 18:21:10 EDT from zelgomer
Damn you beat me to it. I just spent 10 minutes scrolling through this room's history looking for the posts about the UK's new ministry of truth so that I could quote it and say "hey now we've got our very own!" I'm starting to think maybe that didn't happen in this room...we sure have posted a lot about Ukraine here.

The Biden "Administration" is setting up a "Disinformation Governance Board" within DHS (Department of Homeland Security).  This is what is being referred to as the "Ministry of Truth" you might have heard of in a number of 'MURICAN! news outlets.



[#] Sat Apr 30 2022 09:00:31 EDT from Nurb432

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I would like to know their plans on censoring people when they step out of line.



[#] Sat Apr 30 2022 13:09:51 EDT from LadySerenaKitty

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Sat Apr 30 2022 09:00:31 EDT from Nurb432

I would like to know their plans on censoring people when they step out of line.



I think everykitty would like to see this.  I think now it's downgraded to just endless harassment and depersoning.



[#] Mon May 02 2022 12:27:32 EDT from darknetuser

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2022-04-28 13:19 from zelgomer
It is actually reminiscent of the Freenode takeover a year or two ago.

The level of scree-ing and head-exploding and misinformation spread by

the incumbant team was enough to convince me to separate myself from

the whole network, both the old one and the new libera.chat.

The only difference is that everyone packed up and founded/moved to a

new network, and the new owner of the old network actually did run it

into the ground. It is yet to be seen whether anything similar will

transpire at Twitter.



Thank you for saying this so I didn't have to say it myself. Agreed 100%.


Too bad many FOSS developers can only be reliably reached over Libera these days. I really developed a dislike for them during the split.

[#] Mon May 02 2022 12:31:11 EDT from darknetuser

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2. If they want their own platform, then they should ... (wait for it)

... LEARN TO CODE! haha



Not really. There are lots of social media packages or bundles that can act as such out there. If you feel like a dog trapped in a man's body and have some friends that feel as you do, you can deploy a forum, citadel instance of Fediverse instance for your weirdos and you without having to know what C++ is.

[#] Mon May 02 2022 12:52:53 EDT from Nurb432

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I would agree for small closely-knit communities.  but if you want to be out in the big world and have millions of users.  knowing how to maintain what you use, at a code level, is a real good idea.



[#] Mon May 02 2022 13:16:07 EDT from LadySerenaKitty

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What if I made my own Citadel implementation, called it Fortress, and had each client-side protocol be its own Fortress daemon (fortress-imapd, fortress-popd, fortress-webd, etc...) and then started a commewnity of felinophile computologists?  Or a commewnity of SiliconGraphics aficionados?



[#] Mon May 02 2022 17:15:24 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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I would like to know their plans on censoring people when they step
out of line.

You get sent over to the Ministry of Love for re-education. Duh.

[#] Mon May 02 2022 17:16:36 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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citadel instance of Fediverse instance for your weirdos and you without

having to know what C++ is.

That's coming. Citadels will eventually be part of the fediverse, just like some of you are suggesting. It's taking longer than I'd like because we have to finish webcit-ng first.

[#] Tue May 03 2022 07:33:47 EDT from Nurb432

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Looking at fedverse main page. I didnt realize GNUsocial was part of it.  Or even still alive.. i thought that died. 



[#] Tue May 03 2022 15:58:17 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Let me be the first to say this: I think the "leaked" Roe v. Wade thing is a hoax. They're obviously working in concert to distract us from something else, and we ought to be working hard to figure out what that something else is.

And my opinion about abortion remains the same: the life of a baby is worth far more than the life of a democrat.

[#] Tue May 03 2022 16:37:31 EDT from Nurb432

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After reading it, i dont think its a hoax, as it sounds legit and something he would draft up ( others agree, not just me :) ). But, i totally agree its a distraction, via an attempt to get things stirred up with protests and riots this summer.  i have heard some other theories that this was to put public pressure on court members wanting to change sides, or just to get them harassed/threatened and force them to vote one way or another, but that is pretty far out in left field.

 

And not to get too far into the weeds, but many people that do support banning abortions across the board agree with this: Adhering to strict constitutional guidelines, things like this should be the state's jurisdiction, not the federal government's.    I tend to agree. While i personally dont approve of ( non-medical emergency ) abortions after 'x date', i dont think the feds should be dictating it in either direction..



[#] Tue May 03 2022 16:43:10 EDT from Nurb432

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oh, and it may have the effect of forcing the democrats to pack the court. "see we told ya so" ( to their base )



[#] Tue May 03 2022 17:46:31 EDT from Nurb432

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Roberts did verify it was authentic.   So, no hoax. 



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