Establishing an AX.25 presence for Uncensored is a super idea. The only problem is ... Uncensored hasn't been run from my house since 2007.

Oct 28 2014 12:02pm from IGnatius T Foobar @uncnsrd (Uncensored)

Establishing an AX.25 presence for Uncensored is a super idea. The

only problem is ... Uncensored hasn't been run from my house since

2007.

The only thing "required" to be at your house is the ham transceiver.

So the problem is:

1. install AX.25 on your remote linux box
2. have the "ham login shell" talk to uncensored through a separate SSH connection (hamuser@ comes to mind).
3. inbound and outbound AX.25 packets can be routed to a linux box at your house which is then connected to a packet terminal node controller (TNC) which then connects to your (2 meter) transceiver.

Configure everything on the ham stuff at *your* house and *bam* **done**.


Oh, you'll need to contact the folks at Berkeley who administer the AMPR.ORG domain and get a nodename (I'll use me as the example.... k2ne.ampr.org) and routing. The rest is handled over the internet.


Easy. You'll of course, have to configure your remote linux box for a second interface to handle the .ampr.org in/out traffic but other than that it is a lot easier than it sounds.

--K2NE

Yes, of course, but you were talking about it in a "prepper" context, so one would presume that in a SHTF situation, the link between my house and the data center would be offline.

Oct 28 2014 5:43pm from IGnatius T Foobar @uncnsrd (Uncensored)
Yes, of course, but you were talking about it in a "prepper" context,

so one would presume that in a SHTF situation, the link between my
house and the data center would be offline.

Yes - but then you seemed enthused at putting the BBS online, which is when my emphasis shifted.

--K2NE

As a point of interest, Jersey Devil Citadel (Citadel:K2NE v6.8) started handling inter-node email by "tunneling" the emails through the packet radio network, and then back to the "regular" internet. Kludgey, but it worked.

Later we did the same thing through UUCP using UUCICO, which also worked but was even kludgier.

We abandoned all that in favor of just doing it via dial-up which worked perfectly. For that era.

Network connections are so simple now, it's easy to forget what a remarkable feat of engineering UUCP was.

People still ****use**** UUCP ????? <evil grin>

Seriously, it was so robust, and so reliable, that it was kind of sad to retire it when universal IP connectivity made it obsolete.

For a year or two before this site went onto the Internet full time, we were using UUCP over a demand-dialed Internet connection to pick up mail because it was (and still is) more reliable than any of the other methods available to coax SMTP into sending mail at the right time to a host that isn't always up.

Most people also don't know that we were providing free Internet mail to the entire Citadel dialup network. I made it clear that we created a node called "internet" and you could send mail to addresses like "foo%bar.com @ Internet" and it would do the right thing in both directions, but nobody paid attention because I wasn't part of the Minnesota in-crowd.

So basically, IG, you did what I did when the "minnesota in crowd" thought me "unworthy" -- I made my OWN "in crowd", as did you.

Honestly, though, your last msg is the *first* I ever heard of your mail forwarding schema. Neat! Wish I'd known of it in 1987.

I wish I could have tapped into all of this in 1987/88, when I was running Citadel 68k in Japan. That would have been an expensive set of phone bills, but might have been worthwhile.

You wouldn't have known of it in 1987 because the site didn't even go online on dialup until 1988. And it wasn't until a few years later that the Internet mail gateway was developed.

yeesh ... "netproc" was such a beast of a program.

Then it might have been 1988/89 when I was doing the Citadel thing in Japan... I remember logging into something out here back then with the handle 'machine'.
I couldn't make it a regular thing, but I managed to download some executables for the Citadel 68k stuff in order to actually run it.

Have you actually gotten it to work over the air yet?

Looks like fun. I've got a zillion ham projects going on here right now, as I'm sure you can surmise from the QSO> room. The ham/ax.25/citadel stuff would involve hardware I don't currently own (a TNC) and time I really don't have - for about six months at least.

Antennas to build... and more!
http://k2ne.net

And therein lies most of the fun! My best learning experience to-date, in the computer realm, was back in the '80s, learning C by hacking the original Citadel CP/M code. HUGE amounts of fun and fits the "learning something new" (to me) from the work of others.

And when I started serious work on the Citadel:K2NE project I knew "going in" what was good and what was not-so... which made for much time saved.

Rabbit holes are not bad things. Sometimes you find treasure in them!

Sounds like we had almost parallel experiences. Too bad we didn't have the means to collaborate back then.