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[#] Wed Oct 21 2020 12:09:05 EDT from zooer

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No, I have not purchased a new phone, supposedly it is available in this area. I don't understand the technology enough, I thought the 5G frequencies did not travel long distances.  You needed more TX/RX for it to work, it wasn't made for rural areas.  I will keep my current Pixel phone as long as I can.  That being said I am almost sure Google is fucking with the battery. After Google's 5G phones were released my phone's battery life dropped significantly. 



[#] Fri Oct 23 2020 18:01:42 EDT from Ragnar Danneskjold

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5G in a lot of areas is bogus, because they simply stole 4G spectrum in order to say they've got it....

[#] Sat Oct 24 2020 07:48:10 EDT from zooer

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I think so, this area is rural enough, there are many dead spots.  The 5G maps state 5G is available in the area but I do not see any towers.  I thought 5G could only travel 1000 feet or so.

5G with 4G rollback. 



[#] Tue Oct 27 2020 13:45:33 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Seems like it would be a lot easier if the carriers federated their networks, like they do in some parts of the world. Let every cell take connections for every participating carrier.

I'm not upgrading until 6G or maybe 7G come out.

[#] Sun Nov 08 2020 19:07:07 EST from zooer

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TIL.... Android phones will get updates for three years after the phones release date.
Apple will get updates for five years.

 

Next month my Pixel 2 will reach its EOL and will not be getting any more updates.
Last month, my phone was updated to Android 11, nicknamed 'drain the battery at a faster rate'  I am sure the battery drain issue will not be fixed.  They are pushing me to get a new phone.  I am thinking of an Iphone.



[#] Mon Nov 16 2020 08:42:01 EST from zooer

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I need a new phone, does anyone have any suggestions?  I am leaning to getting a Pixel 4a 5G.  5G is not available here but I need a new phone and want to be ready.   The world is not traveling so there isn't an advantage to it.

I thought about an iPhone as well.

I don't need a fancy top of the line expensive phone.  I would like it to make calls, not run NASA.  I don't care about fancy stuff.



[#] Fri Nov 27 2020 15:39:06 EST from Nurb432

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Im partial to Xiaomi phones. its all i have purchased last few years. Wife also. 

 

Last 2 models have been in their Android One' line.  ( zero extra bloat, basically what you get if you buy a nexus but for less $ ) They still have 'regular' android phones in most any price range too. From "dirt cheap" to "WTF that is expensive". 



[#] Fri Nov 27 2020 15:40:50 EST from Nurb432

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Bleh, pixel, not nexus.  Nexus was the older google stuff, not been that for years yet i still think that term....  same difference tho, in this context.

Fri Nov 27 2020 15:39:06 EST from Nurb432

Im partial to Xiaomi phones. its all i have purchased last few years. Wife also. 

 

Last 2 models have been in their Android One' line.  ( zero extra bloat, basically what you get if you buy a nexus but for less $ ) They still have 'regular' android phones in most any price range too. From "dirt cheap" to "WTF that is expensive". 



 



[#] Sat Nov 28 2020 10:42:11 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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"Android One" looks interesting, regardless of what manufacturer supplies the phone.  Can you uninstall GMail and Chrome on an Android One phone?  Can you root the phone?



[#] Sat Nov 28 2020 19:28:06 EST from Nurb432

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Its still google centric so i dont think you can remove them easily.  But no one says you have to use either, since there are plenty of alternatives. Now, that said, a quick look says you can disable both of them on this phone i have in my hand ( MI-A3 ). so while not gone might be the same effect you are looking for.

Rooting, i'm not 100% sure. I have not needed to root for a long time, so i didnt look into it until now. I do see a few things via a quick search that says there are tool kits to do it, so YMMV.  Also, one of the manufactures were offering to root their devices for you, by sending a code once you signed up and agreed it was out of warranty if you do it, etc.  But again, not looked into it on these so it may not be a vendor option. 

 

Sat Nov 28 2020 10:42:11 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

"Android One" looks interesting, regardless of what manufacturer supplies the phone.  Can you uninstall GMail and Chrome on an Android One phone?  Can you root the phone?



 



[#] Sun Nov 29 2020 22:04:31 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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Disabling them is as good as removing them ***IF*** they aren't consuming space on the phone that you need for other things. If the phone is rooted then you can delete anything, of course.

My current phone *runs* fine, but it is FULL, and I don't have a whole lot of apps on it. My next handset will definitely need either ample onboard storage or the ability to *reliably* offload apps to an SD card.

[#] Mon Nov 30 2020 09:26:51 EST from ParanoidDelusions

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Sun Nov 29 2020 22:04:31 EST from IGnatius T Foobar
Disabling them is as good as removing them ***IF*** they aren't consuming space on the phone that you need for other things. If the phone is rooted then you can delete anything, of course.

My current phone *runs* fine, but it is FULL, and I don't have a whole lot of apps on it. My next handset will definitely need either ample onboard storage or the ability to *reliably* offload apps to an SD card.

That is one thing I like about my Note 10. I've got 512gb internal and a 512gb SD... so... space isn't really a problem. 



[#] Mon Nov 30 2020 14:55:11 EST from Nurb432

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Most android phones these days let you 'extend' its internal storage onto the SD card.  no need to figure out how to put apps there and fight with that ( i remember those days with small internal, and poor partition sizes. it sucked )  

One caveat: It does reformat it into a format that you can no longer take it out and just shove it into a pc to transfer on/off but it does do the job of getting around any space issues.   Id have to go look but i think my A3 has 128gb internal, and i just stuck in a 400gb SD the other day ( they were on sale, im a sucker )

Sun Nov 29 2020 22:04:31 EST from IGnatius T Foobar
Disabling them is as good as removing them ***IF*** they aren't consuming space on the phone that you need for other things. If the phone is rooted then you can delete anything, of course.

My current phone *runs* fine, but it is FULL, and I don't have a whole lot of apps on it. My next handset will definitely need either ample onboard storage or the ability to *reliably* offload apps to an SD card.

 



[#] Tue Dec 01 2020 07:56:46 EST from ParanoidDelusions

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You know, I haven't pulled the SD from my phone to transfer to my PC in years. It is easier to just hook it up via USB as an external mass storage device. 

The other reason Google tried to discourage this for a while is evidently using a microSD as expansion storage has a hit on battery life - but that doesn't seem to be an issue anymore, either. 


Mon Nov 30 2020 14:55:11 EST from Nurb432

Most android phones these days let you 'extend' its internal storage onto the SD card.  no need to figure out how to put apps there and fight with that ( i remember those days with small internal, and poor partition sizes. it sucked )  

One caveat: It does reformat it into a format that you can no longer take it out and just shove it into a pc to transfer on/off but it does do the job of getting around any space issues.   Id have to go look but i think my A3 has 128gb internal, and i just stuck in a 400gb SD the other day ( they were on sale, im a sucker )

Sun Nov 29 2020 22:04:31 EST from IGnatius T Foobar
Disabling them is as good as removing them ***IF*** they aren't consuming space on the phone that you need for other things. If the phone is rooted then you can delete anything, of course.

My current phone *runs* fine, but it is FULL, and I don't have a whole lot of apps on it. My next handset will definitely need either ample onboard storage or the ability to *reliably* offload apps to an SD card.

 



 



[#] Sat Dec 12 2020 10:35:22 EST from Nurb432

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Normally i do too, but if i want to move LOTS of data ( which happens every so often, like a refresh of movies or music ), its sure nice to pull it out and do it that way and get it done quicker.  its also convenient for when i get a larger SD.  Not that i *have* to, but the option is nice to have since im not short on 'internal' space.

Only wish his damned RK3399 chromebook i have would do the 'extension' thing. Going to have to futz around with partitioning in Linux to pull it off, but it should be a out of box feature.

Tue Dec 01 2020 07:56:46 EST from ParanoidDelusions

You know, I haven't pulled the SD from my phone to transfer to my PC in years. It is easier to just hook it up via USB as an external mass storage device. 

 



 



 



[#] Sat Dec 12 2020 12:19:41 EST from ParanoidDelusions

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Yeah. Usually when I'm doing this, though - it is because I am upgrading to a new phone... so opening it up to pull an SD from inside it isn't a real big deal. 

Even then - I typically just do a mass drag and drop from the phone to my NAS in a folder labeled "ThisPhone128gbSD" 

But... as we climb up to half a TB in size MicroSDs - that becomes less practical. 


Sat Dec 12 2020 10:35:22 EST from Nurb432

Normally i do too, but if i want to move LOTS of data ( which happens every so often, like a refresh of movies or music ), its sure nice to pull it out and do it that way and get it done quicker.  its also convenient for when i get a larger SD.  Not that i *have* to, but the option is nice to have since im not short on 'internal' space.

Only wish his damned RK3399 chromebook i have would do the 'extension' thing. Going to have to futz around with partitioning in Linux to pull it off, but it should be a out of box feature.

Tue Dec 01 2020 07:56:46 EST from ParanoidDelusions

You know, I haven't pulled the SD from my phone to transfer to my PC in years. It is easier to just hook it up via USB as an external mass storage device. 

 



 



 



 



[#] Wed Dec 16 2020 21:28:59 EST from zooer

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Picked up a new 5G phone a few weeks ago, I was told there are not many 5G towers around this area and probably won't be until later in 2021.  The phone did display 5G today when I was out and about but I don't think it is true 5G.



[#] Wed Dec 16 2020 23:47:14 EST from ParanoidDelusions

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Phoenix and its suburbs tends to be an early adopter of cutting edge tech. When I got my Note 10+, it was still 5 or 6 months new... I went with the 4G model. 

I just don't really see the point. It is kind of like the latest gaming console. I'll wait until the buzz dies down and it is the only option. 

 

Wed Dec 16 2020 21:28:59 EST from zooer

Picked up a new 5G phone a few weeks ago, I was told there are not many 5G towers around this area and probably won't be until later in 2021.  The phone did display 5G today when I was out and about but I don't think it is true 5G.



 



[#] Thu Dec 17 2020 06:22:36 EST from zooer

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My old phone reached its designed EOL.  It was no longer going to get updates, I went with a cheap 5G model.  I thought about getting a cheaper 4G model but I figured I would be ready when the technology arrived.  I don't stream video or audio, I don't have a need for the bandwidth other than calls.  

I learned that iPhones have a lifespan of five years, Android's lifespan is three years.  This is not the hardware, this is for the O.S. updates.

I could go back to a phone only device and be happy.

 



[#] Thu Dec 17 2020 10:10:54 EST from ParanoidDelusions

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Android is easy to root, though.

But yeah - without social media, the smart part of the phone is way less important to me.

 

Thu Dec 17 2020 06:22:36 EST from zooer

My old phone reached its designed EOL.  It was no longer going to get updates, I went with a cheap 5G model.  I thought about getting a cheaper 4G model but I figured I would be ready when the technology arrived.  I don't stream video or audio, I don't have a need for the bandwidth other than calls.  

I learned that iPhones have a lifespan of five years, Android's lifespan is three years.  This is not the hardware, this is for the O.S. updates.

I could go back to a phone only device and be happy.

 



 



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