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[#] Wed Mar 29 2017 16:13:42 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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That's not the point. KDE 1.X was exactly the desktop Linux needed at exactly the right time, and it had well-defined interfaces for almost anything you wanted to do. It doesn't matter whether GNOME was better or worse; the point was that Miguel single-handedly and deliberately sabotaged the one opportunity Linux had for a single desktop UI and API's. And for that he deserves a thousand eternities of torment.

(KDE 2.X was pretty good, too ... after that they started trending towards a more Eurotrash style of UI -- a sin that Apple is also guilty of.)

[#] Thu Mar 30 2017 17:29:45 EDT from kc5tja @ Uncensored

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I really need some more proof that Icaza was paid to start Gnome before I extend enough credence to that idea. I think he was just naturally a jerk, and MS saw him as an ally much later.

[#] Thu Mar 30 2017 23:10:29 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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I just re-installed my Windoze desktop after getting hit with malware

from a bad download. First time in the 2+ years I've been running
'doze as my primary desktop OS.

...and four days later a new computer shows up at my doorstep. The timing on this was impeccable. And by impeccable I mean COMPLETELY PECCABLE!


[#] Fri Apr 21 2017 09:52:22 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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For those who care ...

[ https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/commandline/2017/04/11/windows-10-creators-update-whats-new-in-bashwsl-windows-console/ ]

Lots of updates to the Linux subsystem in Windows 10.

It's also been revealed that the reason the console window (which runs cmd.exe and powershell) doesn't suck as much as it did for 30 years, is because they modernized it to accomodate the Linux console. So it seems that Linux is even making Windows itself better :)

Don't get me wrong, I still want Bill Gates to be fed feet-first into a wood chipper, and I still hope to (literally) piss on his grave someday. But this is a good development, and I've never been one to let my personal biases get in the way of an objective observation. It's ironic, but Microsoft now has a better unix than Apple.

[#] Fri Apr 21 2017 12:26:24 EDT from Ragnar Danneskjold @ Uncensored

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Apple has a real Unix - it might be the only real Unix left soon.

I'm sure it was fun talking BSD vs. System V with you back in the day.

[#] Fri Apr 21 2017 22:46:09 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Today, Linux *is* unix. The "pedigree" hasn't been relevant for a long time.

Back when BSD vs SysV was a thing, I didn't have access to either. All I had access to was Altos machines, running Xenix. Then, as now, Microsoft had an interesting unix.

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