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[#] Sat Mar 26 2016 16:55:20 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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The weird part is that this isn't satire.

"Microsoft deletes 'teen girl' AI after it became a Hitler-loving sex robot within 24 hours"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2016/03/24/microsofts-teen-girl-ai-turns-into-a-hitler-loving-sex-robot-wit/

Well I suppose that's what you get when you let Twitter teach you how to be "human" ... but really, only someone as dumb as a Microsoft developer would think to do that.

[#] Sat Mar 26 2016 18:10:34 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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A friend of mine had an AI connected to an IRC bot. the results were similar - so this was kind of a dejavu ;-)



[#] Tue Mar 29 2016 11:02:27 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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*makes mental note never to hook ai up to the internet*

[#] Tue Mar 29 2016 14:33:52 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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I dunno, half of the people who post in the comments sections of various websites are already indistinguishable from hitler loving sex robots.

[#] Tue Mar 29 2016 18:05:11 EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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Actually, this election year is a good example of what happens when the comments section decides to run for president. I wouldn't be surprised if there's an AI involved.

[#] Wed Mar 30 2016 13:45:21 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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That might actually make sense. None of the candidates are real; they're all AI-bots submitted by various contributors.

* Fiorina was written by HP, and like everything else HP during the Fiorina era, failed miserably.
* Clinton was written by Microsoft.
* Trump was written by Oracle.
* Sanders was written by a bunch of Chinese hackers.
* Cruz was written by Novell (Romney was the beta version).
* Paul was written by a loose consortium of open source developers.
* Rubio was written by Adobe but failed to connect to his update manager.
* Kasich is still in pre-alpha but doesn't know it.
* Jeb Bush was written by some H1B's hired by the Republican National Committee, but they couldn't even get him to compile.

I wonder how many congresscritters have the same origins.

[#] Thu Mar 31 2016 16:25:28 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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seems as if MS finaly gets back on developers developers developers after over a decade trying to dictate what they can do with their wintendo and what not.

Biggest looser in the current move: the company that has been offering remote linux to visual studio integration for about a decade now.



[#] Sun Apr 03 2016 01:47:00 EDT from ax25 @ Uncensored

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Thu Mar 31 2016 04:25:28 PM EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

seems as if MS finaly gets back on developers developers developers after over a decade trying to dictate what they can do with their wintendo and what not.

Biggest looser in the current move: the company that has been offering remote linux to visual studio integration for about a decade now.



Shell, schmel.  I have been working around that stinking cesspool of an "operating system" for many years.  pywin32 - "Python extensions for Windows" has been my go-to for quite some time to get things done.  It just worked when many of the other "management api" Windows tools failed to do the job.

All of the folks that want to teach me OOP in some bastardized form of camel-case in the form of the latest failure (PowerShell), can email me directly.  I could probably still out-do PowerShell's current capabilities with a quick re-write in PowerBASIC or some other ancient language that would be capable of being understood today, as compared to the many attempts by MS to make an API hook language that keeps up as well as the open source tack on languages available for MS OS's.

I am interested in the latest turn of events, but I am not optimistic based on the failures of the past.  I understand what is being offered, but I am not ready to take the bait.



[#] Sun Apr 03 2016 13:41:44 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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ansible doing winrm is nice - kindof.

http://docs.ansible.com/ansible/intro_windows.html

though its still somewhat rough around the edges, and chocolatey packages not working as flawless as any alpha grade linux distribution.

2 decades of improving software deployability in the OS stack vs. everybode rolling his own installer pays of now I guess.



[#] Sun Apr 03 2016 21:39:39 EDT from ax25 @ Uncensored

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Ansible might be a solution.  Time will tell if the rug gets pulled out from under them as well.  Probably not, but I just like to stick to items I can compile with a 3rd party compiler :-)



[#] Thu Apr 07 2016 10:04:44 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Well the way it's being presented and reported, is that they want all of the web developers to start using Windows instead of Linux or Mac OS.  They are being pretty clear about this being, at least for now, a development platform and not a deployment platform.  Develop on Windows, deploy on Linux.  Seems a bit odd.  I don't know how many web developers work locally on their desktops/laptops vs. simply connecting to a web server and working there.  I've always been in the second camp, regardless of what client OS I was running at any given time.  But I'm not a "serious" web developer.



[#] Thu Apr 07 2016 18:21:19 EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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* Rubio was written by Adobe but failed to connect to his update
manager.

LOL!

[#] Tue Apr 12 2016 00:21:58 EDT from ax25 @ Uncensored

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Thu Apr 07 2016 10:04:44 AM EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Well the way it's being presented and reported, is that they want all of the web developers to start using Windows instead of Linux or Mac OS.  They are being pretty clear about this being, at least for now, a development platform and not a deployment platform.  Develop on Windows, deploy on Linux.  Seems a bit odd.  I don't know how many web developers work locally on their desktops/laptops vs. simply connecting to a web server and working there.  I've always been in the second camp, regardless of what client OS I was running at any given time.  But I'm not a "serious" web developer.



Quite a few of the younger ones I know personally.  One does Vista (ick).  One does work on an Macbook pro.  As long as they can churn out code, I don't give a rip.  I can see where they are coming from in MS land.  They have a bit of catching up to do, but if they implement (bash / ssh / environs ) well, I would say that the hardware bit / cost savings, can  do them well.

I wish the future generations hanging on that a happy time.  Being of a generation that pre-dates that a bit, I am skeptical of the whole 'battle'.



[#] Sat May 21 2016 23:25:27 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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I wish the future generations hanging on that a happy time.  Being
of a generation that pre-dates that a bit, I am skeptical of the
whole 'battle'.

Having had my own boots on the ground for decades, I'm kind of skeptical about it myself.

But here's the way I've been looking at it lately.

From 1995-2010 or so, the general thinking was that Microsoft had to lose its desktop monopoly, or they would eventually take over the rest of computing.
There could be only one. Everyone agreed on that.

Well, here we are much much later. And we see two things. First, if Linux hasn't broken the Windows desktop monopoly now, it probably never will. Second, if Microsoft hasn't taken over the rest of computing by now, it probably never will. Combine this with the fact that pretty much *all* computing that doesn't involve a traditional desktop now runs on Linux, and it becomes apparent that staying involved in "The OS Wars" is a waste of everyone's time.

(I'm running Windows 10 on my desktop now, and I actually kind of like it.
Please kill me.)

So ... Microsoft still owns the desktop, but the desktop doesn't really matter anymore, and Linux owns everything else. Not too bad an outcome, I guess.

(And no, Apple doesn't factor into it at all. They're still a niche player and don't affect the outcome of anything.)

[#] Mon May 23 2016 08:05:30 EDT from the_mgt @ Uncensored

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Thu Apr 07 2016 10:04:44 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Well the way it's being presented and reported, is that they want all of the web developers to start using Windows instead of Linux or Mac OS.  They are being pretty clear about this being, at least for now, a development platform and not a deployment platform.  Develop on Windows, deploy on Linux.  Seems a bit odd.  I don't know how many web developers work locally on their desktops/laptops vs. simply connecting to a web server and working there.  I've always been in the second camp, regardless of what client OS I was running at any given time.  But I'm not a "serious" web developer.

First of all, web developers have never been real developers, that is a fact. Second, in all the university courses for computational science I have attended, almost nobody uses linux on their laptops anymore. They bought Macs. Even the profs do not use linux. Your classic linux nerd is a thing of the late nineties. Some people I know still use Ubuntu on laptops, but that is as much a real linux as web developers are developers. I send some of the CS guys into catatonia, when I told them that I was originally studying philosophy and that I use Gentoo on my netbook. Their minds could not get a grip on that thought.

I have since moved on to a 13" Macbook Air, it has ssh built in and I can happily ssh -Y into many linux machines. The rest I manage with Chicken of the VNC or Microsoft Remote Desktop. The guys that used linux machines in the early 2000s all have moved to OSX now. Or, if they are of the gamer variety, use windows.

The web developers I know have always used Windows machines, but are fond of Macs, too.

The only Linux machines I use are my mobile phone (which is a true and proper full stack linux, not some ugly stepsister of an abomination called android) and on various servers.

The classic home windows PC fades out and is replaced with tablets, I am going to give my iPad4 to my mom, since she does not need any more computational power or any real app. There are office suites on tables by now...

Oh, and Windows is still not usable on any tablet without a mouse and a keyboard. They just do not get it and probably never will.

So, maybe in 5-10 years, Windows will be like these obscure single purpose business OSs of the past, when I was a kid in the 80s. Only the office guys will be able to use it, everyone else rub their fingers over the screens and try to okgoogle/hey siri the device.



[#] Mon May 23 2016 10:47:59 EDT from Ragnar Danneskjold @ Uncensored

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Saying Apple is a niche player puts you way behind IG.... Desktop Linux is dead and on the server side, Microsoft continues to grow. Apple broke the Microsoft stranglehold, and everyone is catching up. Including MS. As a matter of fact, Microsoft has leapfrogged both Apple and the general Linux community recently. We'll see what they do to catch up.


(God, it pains me to write that.)

[#] Mon May 23 2016 12:48:03 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Apple broke Microsoft's desktop monopoly with iOS, not with Mac OS X (which is kind of unix-like but still feels like a toy to me). And then Google took away Apple's market share by building Android. Unless Apple opens its software up to other hardware manufacturers, they will always be a niche player.

[#] Mon May 23 2016 13:11:35 EDT from Ragnar Danneskjold @ Uncensored

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OSX is more Unix than Linux - maybe that's what you don't like?

As for Google eating Apple's marketshare - eh. Worldwide shipments don't mean a whole lot. Android is free and fragmented. Does buying a cheap crap phone from Huawei or Xiamoi or ZTE mean much?


I purchased a bunch of Android based phones for my developers - most of them suck.

Suckage would be okay - but there are so many different versions, development means a lot of extra testing.

But back to Microsoft - they still haven't figured out that Windows doesn't need to be EVERYWHERE. Come out with a phone OS that isn't Windows. It's okay - people know how to switch between devices.

[#] Mon May 23 2016 13:41:48 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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If your mobile developers are still having Android fragmentation problems in 2016 they're doing something very wrong. Google Play Services API gets updated on every device, including OEM builds. They built those API's specifically to get around OEM's who are slow to (or stop) updating their phone OS builds.

As for unix ... Linux *is* unix in the 21st century. AT&T pedigree doesn't make OSX any more "real unix" than the name "at&t" makes SBC the real AT&T.

[#] Mon May 23 2016 14:10:09 EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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First of all, web developers have never been real developers, that is

a fact. Second, in all the university courses for computational

When hiring, you don't know if you're getting a "web developer", or a "full stack developer." (They always say the latter on their resume, but some of them lie, or course;)


I've never made any bones about the fact that I'm primarily backend-focused. Too bad most are not nearly so honest.

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