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[#] Sun Mar 20 2022 07:03:31 EDT from Nurb432

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lol :)

Sun Mar 20 2022 06:25:23 AM EDT from IGnatius T Foobar
I forgot to make it read-only. Rookie mistake. Give me a break, I've only been doing this for 34 years :)

 



[#] Tue Mar 22 2022 09:34:45 EDT from xfalkenx

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Hi. I'm new here at Uncensored! although I have successfully used Citadel on several private projects for the last 10 years. I am a very fan of this software. Thank you for keeping it up! 



[#] Tue Mar 22 2022 16:21:19 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Welcome aboard! Hope to see you around often.

[#] Tue Mar 22 2022 19:37:07 EDT from zelgomer

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Where I work MS Teams and Slack are all the rage, and I hate them both. I've thought about trying to introduce Citadel into the office culture, knowing it would almost certainly fall flat on its face, but it would still be fun for me. However, since I'm also relatively new around here, and I'm connecting anonymously, I'm too paranoid about the conspicious timing that someone could theoretically one day notice.


Sorry, IG.

[#] Tue Mar 22 2022 20:10:34 EDT from Nurb432

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Same here. Its a cesspool. 1000s of channels. No oversight. Everyone expects you to be staring at the screen just waiting for them to talk to you and if you dont respond instantly, they are insulted.  Screw them. I have work to do.

Turned out exactly how i expected. Never thought anything could be worse than the convoluted mess SharePoint was, but MS pulled it off.



[#] Wed Mar 23 2022 05:19:51 EDT from xfalkenx

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Well, in my both cases I used Citadel, I was the one who decided to use it.

The first case: a new Trade Union for an over 800-900 workers company was founded and needed an online tool to publish news, have a chat, a mailing list and forum-like spaces. Both public and private access were mandatory because of the needing of broadcasting information to all the workers but also send information reserved to the base members and the board members.

I was the one at the head of IT for the T.U. and looked for a tool that did these things. These days Joomla was the go-to software and I tested it and also did with Wordpress+plugins nightmare and Drupal but none of them did the job.

I chose Citadel because it was everything we needed and we could run it out-of-the-box. We lived in a rush because of the situation in the company: new committee elections were coming and some dramatic regulations were going to happen so we needed an agile tool to organize the protests, etc. and Citadel made it easy. The other solutions would take us too much time to set them up so I discarded them.

The protests and mobilization period was a rush and Citadel was a great tool to broadcast information, organize events, mobs, strikes, etc. The webcit interface was concise and clear enough for people who were not into computers or internet: most of the staff were on hevay duty maintenance areas, rough people. But they developed very well with the rooms, mailing list, etc. I know they hated ad nauseam company's MS Sharepoint, so that's a POINT!

Once that period came to an end, we got some wins and had some loses as on every battle but a bureaucrat period started and I got off the boat.

The T.U. started to make more officework rather than organizing mobs and protests and Citadel was shut down. They continued with millions of doc, xls documents, and whatsapp... You know, the establishment after the revolution.

 



[#] Wed Mar 23 2022 08:24:01 EDT from Nurb432

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And i guess to put my MS hatred aside for one second: If sharepoint and teams were managed correctly by an organization, it would not be a total disaster.. Still not great, and i wont like them, but at least not the disaster when you ( we ) have several thousand people doing their own thing, all over the place, with no direction or consistency. 

So, you say you had close to 1k people on your citadel, what sort of hardware did you have running it? I have always wondered about load on a large user base. 

 



[#] Wed Mar 23 2022 19:51:58 EDT from xfalkenx

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So, you say you had close to 1k people on your citadel, what sort of hardware did you have running it? I have always wondered about load on a large user base. 

 
I do not remember exactly the server's specs but those days I used those cheap Intel J1900 on Mini-ITX boards. From 4 to 8 GB memory. Xen+Debian. I worked mainly on Sun Ultrasparc+Solaris, HPUX and intel BSD systems but I preferred debian+intel for small projects like that.
 
Citadel performed very well with that hardware. I imagine Joomla, Drupal or other php boards like phpBB would have kept the machine overloaded. During the most concurred hours there were from 10 to 20 users at a time. Most of them checking for new posts and answering others. The total users in the system almost doubled because other workers in the same sector came and signed up new accounts. Also, a bunch of fake accounts were created continuously by the company's executives and other trade unions.
 
In a next post I will talk about the other case I used Citadel, which was a school.
 
 


[#] Thu Mar 24 2022 06:20:24 EDT from Nurb432

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Ah, i was thinking more like several hundred concurrent.  



[#] Fri Mar 25 2022 17:40:02 EDT from barajas

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How's everyone doing today? I'm feeling good.


[#] Fri Mar 25 2022 18:56:54 EDT from zelgomer

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Can't complain!

[#] Fri Mar 25 2022 19:07:55 EDT from Nurb432

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I can.  But then again, i can see the darkness in the sun... ( which i hate btw, it gives me headaches )

Fri Mar 25 2022 06:56:54 PM EDT from zelgomer
Can't complain!

 



[#] Fri Mar 25 2022 20:02:50 EDT from zelgomer

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2022-03-25 23:07 from Nurb432 <nurb432@uncensored.citadel.org>
I can.  But then again, i can see the darkness in the sun... ( which
i hate btw, it gives me headaches )
Fri Mar 25 2022 06:56:54 PM EDT from zelgomer

Can't complain!


You shouldn't stare at that. The darkness is probably where you've burned holes in your retinas.

[#] Fri Mar 25 2022 20:42:42 EDT from barajas

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Well, to be fair, the sun causes mass catastrophe roughly every 12,000 years so I can understand why you'd see darkness in it. Randall Carlson and Ben Davidson are great researchers on the topic. Have any of y'all ever heard that theory before?

[#] Fri Mar 25 2022 20:50:50 EDT from zelgomer

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2022-03-26 00:42 from barajas <barajas@uncensored.citadel.org>
Well, to be fair, the sun causes mass catastrophe roughly every 12,000

years so I can understand why you'd see darkness in it. Randall Carlson

and Ben Davidson are great researchers on the topic. Have any of y'all

ever heard that theory before?



No, I read about the Nemesis theory but I think that one's been debunked.

[#] Fri Mar 25 2022 21:38:51 EDT from barajas

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Never heard of it.

[#] Fri Mar 25 2022 22:09:31 EDT from zelgomer

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It's the one that there's a massive trans-neptune object in the solar system, either a small star or a black hole, which every few hundred milennia or whatever passes through a debris field and slings asteroids toward Earth causing peeiodic mass extinction events.

[#] Sat Mar 26 2022 06:53:56 EDT from Nurb432

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I have not seen it proven in either direction. If it did exist, our sun's twin would be so far gone now we would never know if we did find it.

Fri Mar 25 2022 08:50:50 PM EDT from zelgomer
No, I read about the Nemesis theory but I think that one's been debunked.

 



[#] Sat Mar 26 2022 06:54:30 EDT from Nurb432

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Lol.

 

Fri Mar 25 2022 08:02:50 PM EDT from zelgomer
You shouldn't stare at that. The darkness is probably where you've burned holes in your retinas.

 



[#] Sat Mar 26 2022 07:35:41 EDT from Nurb432

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The one that i have read about which uses that term is just that sun had a twin, and at some point in the past it left the solar system.  Many ( most? ) younger systems are binary stars. So logically we had one too at one point in the distant past. But its sooo far in the past there is no residual effects here and no way to find it out there in the cosmos. 

Theories suggesting a current body mass locally, i have heard referred to as other things. But not nemesis. ( like Planet X ).   And i agree, those dont have a lot of scientific proof behind them. Their theories are not totally debunked yet, but not looking good for them either.

Fri Mar 25 2022 10:09:31 PM EDT from zelgomer
It's the one that there's a massive trans-neptune object in the solar system, either a small star or a black hole, which every few hundred milennia or whatever passes through a debris field and slings asteroids toward Earth causing peeiodic mass extinction events.

 



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