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[#] Sat Nov 12 2011 06:02:35 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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Fri Nov 11 2011 16:59:56 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored
Hey, question for all you Debian d00dz.

My /etc/apt/sources.list is full of lines that look like this:

deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free

If I replace the official release names (squeeze, wheezy, etc.) with
the persistent names (stable, testing, etc.) will I automatically be
treated to the next update of each version each time the distributors
change those symlinks to point to a new release?

exactly. And a simple apt-get install <some tiny package you find out to need> will lead into chaos.

for that reason, you should have the distro name rather than stable/testing/unstable in your configs.



[#] Sat Nov 12 2011 21:08:34 EST from zooer @ Uncensored

Subject: How to painlessly switch from Ubuntu to Fedora

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I have had other stuff on my mind, but here is a link, How to painlessly switch from Ubuntu to Fedora
http://cristalinux.blogspot.com/2011/05/how-to-painlessly-switch-from-ubuntu-to.html

It probably doesn't contain anything an experienced user couldn't figure out, but I bookmarked it a while ago.



[#] Mon Nov 14 2011 05:04:20 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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A clever tiny shell helper:

alias tmesg='dmesg|perl -ne "BEGIN{\$a= time()- qx!cat /proc/uptime!};s/\[(\d+)\.\d+\]/localtime(\$1 + \$a)/e; print \$_;"'

 - by zarath



[#] Mon Nov 14 2011 05:31:50 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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Mon Nov 14 2011 05:04:20 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

A clever tiny shell helper:

alias tmesg='dmesg|perl -ne "BEGIN{\$a= time()- qx!cat /proc/uptime!};s/\[(\d+)\.\d+\]/localtime(\$1 + \$a)/e; print \$_;"'

 - by zarath



oops, missing to ignore the blanks in front of smaller timestamps:

alias tmesg='dmesg|perl -ne "BEGIN{\$a= time()- qx!cat /proc/uptime!};s/\[\s*(\d+)\.\d+\]/localtime(\$1 + \$a)/e; print \$_;"'



[#] Mon Nov 14 2011 16:03:29 EST from zooer @ Uncensored

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Not sure where I saw this originally. 
Mageia is a fork of Mandriva Linux, supported by a not-for-profit organisation of recognized and elected contributors.
Further than just delivering a free, secure, stable and sustainable operating system, the goal is to set up a stable and trustable governance to direct collaborative projects

http://www.mageia.org/en/



[#] Mon Nov 14 2011 16:33:04 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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"So come, traveler. Lay down your grudges and join us in Mageia. It is time not to fight, but to install."

(This is the *worst* capture-the-flag Linux build ever.)

[#] Mon Nov 14 2011 20:56:07 EST from zooer @ Uncensored

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Ha!  I didn't see that.  I had a bunch of saved bookmarks I was going through and that was one of them. 



[#] Sat Dec 03 2011 23:46:23 EST from ax25 @ Uncensored

Subject: slack is still the way to learn.

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Wed Oct 26 2011 04:34:00 PM EDT from athos-mn @ Uncensored

Does anyone use Slackware anymore? That's what I started on (well, after SCO OpenServer); was great for learning the guts of the system.



athos-mn

I use slack.  I have read forward on the comments that folks that hold on to the past are not "with it".  What I find that makes me productive is to keep up with the crazy kids changes and then later go back and compile them on Slackware with help from slackbuids.org to tweak everything I need and make it just like I want on Slackware.  I have found that I have learned more about everything I care to lean about is best done on Slackware (mostly because I am to old / lazy - to do it on a build yourself Linux from Scratch install).  Just reading the change-log for Slackware keeps you more in the game than anything else.  Just try to email Patrick V. about why he does not include PAM support in the libs and you find out quite a bit about the Slackware philosophy!

Ax25



[#] Tue Dec 06 2011 16:45:10 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: slack is still the way to learn.

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I started with Slackware in 1994 or so, and since Slack was not upgradeable at the time, I got into the habit of just compiling everything I wanted, including kernel upgrades, libc upgrades (I somehow managed the transition from linux-libc to gnu-libc without a package manager!) and pretty much everything else. That lasted for nearly a decade before the system was just such a mess that I eventually had to backup everything I wanted to keep, wiped the disk, and installed Red Hat.

Now that Linux has matured to the point where you don't really need to have the latest and greatest everything all the time, I'm on the slow train of Debian "stable." Spaceman's bi-annual upgrades were already getting to be too much for me even before he alienated everyone with the Unity desktop.
Debian has been around for a long time and it looks like it'll continue to be around for a long time, so I want to just get on board that slow train and forget about it. My desktop at work and my laptop have both been reinstalled; the only thing left now is my home server (which is about to get rehosted on different hardware anyway).

apt-get install maintenance_free

[#] Tue Dec 06 2011 16:45:59 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: slack is still the way to learn.

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(See also: "at my age I've got more interesting things to do than upgrade my computers all the time")

[#] Fri Dec 16 2011 10:19:15 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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A long, long time ago
Before Ubuntu sank so low
I used to like to dabble, just like you
I'd modify the menu part
Or quickly change the desktop art
And maybe even write a script or two
But then last winter changes came
And desktops wouldn't look the same,
Canonical announced with lots of pride
Ubuntu had a new design
And that made April twenty-nine
The day the desktop died
And so I'm singing
Bye, bye to the Real GUI
Now the desktop is a toybox for the Cloud in the sky
You can't work YOUR way and you'd better not try
They decided that the desktop will die
They're waiting for the desktop to die

-- Emery Fletcher

[#] Fri Dec 16 2011 18:51:04 EST from zooer @ Uncensored

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nice....

I have no fears about having all my stuff on some remote server controlled by someone else and out of my reach.  Nor do I fear all the cameras the government has placed around... or tracking with cell phones and rfid chips.  What could possibly go wrong?  (he said sarcastically)



[#] Sat Dec 17 2011 15:23:49 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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I'm ok with having everything in the cloud as long as it's *my* cloud. Trusting a public cloud for anything other than casual use seems like a recipe for problems.

[#] Sun Dec 18 2011 06:33:52 EST from RoboTamer @ Uncensored

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I wouldn't mind if http://uncensored.citadel.org was on the cloud

What is the cloud anyway, bunch of servers put together so that the hosts can make use of the unused, and meaanwhile charge more for what is being used as well.

 



[#] Tue Dec 20 2011 00:35:36 EST from skpacman @ Uncensored

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not entirely sure where to put this, but this room was the nearest.

This morning, from work, I noticed I was unable to connect to any of my websites. I run a web-server from my home. I'm just using up some old hardware so I don't have to get rid of it so fast.

Anyways, It could connect to my static html-only pages, but anything that required mysql, php, or any services (ssl, vnc, etc..) were disabled.

It sat all day like this.

I had planned on running a backup of my web server tonight and possibly start moving it to a free web host of some kind. Unfortunately I have to be picky about hosting due to the nature of one of my sites and how many domains I actually need pointed to the same account.

Either way, when I came home from work to see why I couldn't connect, I noticed the HDD of my server tower was making weird noises. I tried rebooting but the HDD got worse from there and the system wouldn't get past the initial startup POST screens and junk.

Is there any recovery tools within Linux I can use to pull any available info off of the failed HDD or am I royaly screwed and have to rebuild my websites from scratch???

-- 
Stephen D King
skpacman8629@gmail.com



[#] Tue Dec 20 2011 02:25:18 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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if you just have hdd failures, sdd or ddrescue are the way to go.

(they don't do retries, but treat the space as lost)

but if you're not able to boot i.e. a grml.org and get the block devices, you're lost.



[#] Tue Dec 20 2011 10:48:15 EST from skpacman @ Uncensored

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yeah, it's not boot-able anymore.

I'm just going to have to rebuild all of them from the last available backup (if any)...

http://sdkproductions.hopto.org

-- 
Stephen D King
skpacman8629@gmail.com



[#] Tue Dec 20 2011 13:54:00 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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try the grml live image then.



[#] Tue Dec 20 2011 16:07:20 EST from skpacman @ Uncensored

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Tue Dec 20 2011 01:54:00 PM EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

try the grml live image then.




I'll try that, and if it doesn't work, I'll try ye olde last-ditch-effort of freezing the drive.

I've come to terms with the loss and am prepared for whichever outcome. I would prefer the path of less programming resistance, but come what may.

-- 
Stephen D King
skpacman8629@gmail.com



[#] Wed Dec 21 2011 10:13:05 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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I wouldn't mind if http://uncensored.citadel.org was on the cloud

What is the cloud anyway, bunch of servers put together so that the
hosts can make use of the unused, and meaanwhile charge more for what
is being used as well.

Well there you go ... and to some extent it *is* in "the cloud."

I have a physical server housed in a large data center, but it's running ProxMox VE and has a lot of different virtual machines running on it, one of which is uncensored.citadel.org

So it may not be in "the" cloud but it's in MY cloud.

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