I have always avoided doing that because .... if you ^A C for instance,
which screen session takes it?
The outermost one. So if you wnat to get the inner one, you have to ^A A C.
you get used to it fairly quickly.
So I say, let's be stupid and upgrade to 7, I'm THREE MAJOR VERSION BEHIND!
I find the stable software souce channel and alas they only make builds for 11.04 and I'm still running ubuntu 10.10 because Irefuse to upgrade my machine for no reason and then spend days unbreaking everything the upgrade is going to break.
So I can't get the new firefox.
This whole thing is so broken.
I am using 10.4.3(LTS) because I don't feel the need to have the latest and greatest.
I use this PPA for Firefox:
and this for Thunderbird:
I do have the latest and greatest Firefox and Thunderbird.... only because now with the new crazy number system as soon as the newest version is released, the last version is no longer supported. ugh.
It seems as if they are still pushing out 3.6.x updates, my laptop still is on that version, since one webdesign plugin is so farkin old it won't work with anything else.
I use this PPA for Firefox:
yeah I do that and my only option is to remove, it says nothing about upgrading.
Because they've got it wrapped up inside a bunch of other stuff to make it not crash your browser. The package manager can more reliably install Flash than you can do it by hand. Trust me on this one.
So far the only reason I'm coming up with (and it's a good one) is that Ubuntu still makes it easier to automatically download and install those various "non-free" bits (codecs, drivers, etc) that the GNUoids would tell us that we must simply Not Use.
Am I missing anything?
EC2 support ;)
well, next to being able to help novice users, I never saw a reason to switch to ubuntu in first place.
debian has non-free & contrib parts of repos, you just need to specify it in their apt-line whether you want to install software from them or not.
me (using i3wm.org) never used any kind of desktop; I don't need filemanagers, I know howto operate bash.
I3wm is just the most effective way to manage screenspace for my GUI applications which would be:
- XTerms (yes truckloads of them, thats why they're first in the list)
- Iceweasel (most of my GUI stuff runs there..)
- Emacs (also some windows to the same Editor distributed over several screens & desktops)
- sqldeveloper (yack java crap...)
- jmeter (yack more java crap...)
- soapui (and even much more java crap)
and on testing or debugging icedove or evolution, ekiga now and then... and thats it.
elm, and pine your blissful e-mail.
That's the kind of thing I'm looking to find out if there's any more of.
deb http://debian.netcologne.de/debian wheezy main
deb http://debian.netcologne.de/debian wheezy non-free contrib
deb-src http://debian.netcologne.de/debian sid main contrib non-free
deb http://debian.netcologne.de/debian experimental main
#deb http://mozilla.debian.net/ squeeze-backports iceweasel-aurora
all codecs installed which are needed.
no big deal.
apt-get install xfce
want bleeding edge? install wheezy (testing) which is what ubuntu also aggregates from.
want real bleeding edge? install sid (which may break now and then.)
other than being a n00b or wanting to helb n00bs there is no good reason to use ubuntu.
Just make a step sideways and try Linux Mint (ubuntu based, dunno which desktop, but even more targeted at having more sophistication and ease with preinstalled codecs and whatnot) or Bodhi Linux http://www.bodhilinux.com/about.php (more minimal approach, as it seems and enlightenment 17 as desktop). Or any other ubuntu clone. As a debian hater, I'd say you try Suse or Gentoo :-)
How about Flash? I want Flash, and Google Chrome.
thats what all those angry ubuntu/debian diskussions are about anyways.
Ubuntu primarily pulls stuff more frequent from the debian testing tree, and calls it "stable"
I'd guess their installer is better or at least looks better. There must be a reason why noobs switched to ubuntu by the dozens. Installer is important for those windows users who see reinstallation as a proper way of problem solving and do so every few month. Also, synaptic makes it easy for ex-windows users to get a working system.
I do remember at the time that Ubuntu's desktop was just so much better looking than anything else out there. Nowadays I'm not seeing much of a difference.