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[#] Wed Aug 13 2014 12:01:19 EDT from LoanShark

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well, as I recall things could get weird when you start mixing up a libgcc_s with a glibc and libgcc setup that originally had it static. So the compiler may not be set up to deal with that very well if at all...

[#] Thu Aug 14 2014 09:16:28 EDT from fleeb

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"Maybe rebooting will work."

The actual Linux developer here. He reboots Linux machines almost as if he were a Windows developer.

[#] Thu Aug 14 2014 11:11:54 EDT from dothebart

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rebooting / turning off & on again helps if you have bugs with uninitilized values in your software - the memory is flushed and you therefore have a bigger probability they're initialized to 0...

Elseways sometimes if you've got trouble with drivers of i.e. wlan hardware this may help also.

but usually you only masquerade your error further by doing so.

Re-boots are for testing whether upgrades were power-failure and thus reboot safe.

[#] Thu Aug 14 2014 11:48:41 EDT from fleeb

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Normally, stopping and starting a service/daemon can accomplish what one seeks to do with a reboot, in my experience, regardless of whether you're working in Windows or Linux.

If we did more work within the kernel, I might understand the rebooting a bit more. And, perhaps, that's why I find his behavior a tad odd... he was a kernel developer, now finding himself in the application space, and accustomed to reboots as a way to clean everything up.

[#] Fri Aug 15 2014 08:48:17 EDT from fleeb

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I may find myself trying to resolve this sooner than expected.

The code mostly works, but occasionally has a weird permissions problem when attempting to get a shared memory object for which the permissions were set appropriately for all to read and write.

I suspect a conflict between the libc required for our shared object, and the libc required for whatever executable that runs in our instrumented shell.
The only way to resolve that will be to ensure our shared object is statically linked.


[#] Fri Aug 15 2014 10:10:41 EDT from vince-q <>

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The code mostly works, but occasionally has a weird permissions
problem when attempting to get a shared memory object for which the
permissions were set appropriately for all to read and write.

Hmmmm... is it possible that instead of 'rw-' you may need 'rwx' ??

Just a thought...

[#] Fri Aug 15 2014 10:22:58 EDT from vince-q

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Then there's always

File Permissions of the Beast!

[#] Fri Aug 15 2014 13:07:17 EDT from fleeb

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Heh... it's already the permissions of the beast. It's permissions on shared memory, though, from which nothing will be executed, so it shouldn't need 'x' permissions. And, normally, it works... just not in this environment with my perhaps funky compiler thing.

[#] Mon Aug 18 2014 14:22:49 EDT from zooer

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To our German Freunde, there is an discussion on G+ weather Munich is getting rid of Linux and going back to
Windows. Does anyone know for sure?

[#] Mon Aug 18 2014 15:34:49 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Munich was a high-profile Linux success story. If they're switching to Windows, it's pretty obvious that not only are they getting Windows for free, but someone there is getting millions of euros in kickbacks from the evil empire.

We kicked Germany's ass once. Perhaps we need to do it again.

[#] Mon Aug 18 2014 16:18:41 EDT from the_mgt

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The Major of munich was annoyed that the admins took some time in hooking his crapphone up to the city's mailing system. Also, "all departments are constantly annoyed with limux".

In other news, the major seems to be an ms fanboy and they have the new german headquarter of ms build in the middle of munich or something unfishy like that.

Some of the employes seem to enjoy the limux, some don't. Others argue "show us the place were a pure windows environment works flawless". Etc., etc., etc.

Most recent article:

Hm, Heise has an english version, "The H", oddly enough they do not seem to have an english article.

[#] Mon Aug 18 2014 17:20:32 EDT from dothebart

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the english version - h-online shut down a while back.

it seems as if the munich council has ordered a study whether switching back will improve things.

[#] Mon Aug 18 2014 18:40:42 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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The sensible thing to do is move *all* applications behind the glass, so they can be accessed from any device in any location. That's what pretty much every organization should be doing right now.

The desktop PC is obsolete, even if it's running Linux. It's *more* obsolete if it's running Windows.

[#] Tue Aug 19 2014 02:11:39 EDT from dothebart

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yes - for shure. and if not, there is terminal server to run windows apps in the closet.

but, its probably hard to tell the worker drones, who have been used to whatever else - and everyone they're talking to outside of the city has that.



[#] Wed Aug 20 2014 18:31:02 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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You know what I think is cool?

The name of the web site where you can download the utility "" is ...

[#] Thu Aug 21 2014 22:22:42 EDT from zooer

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Presenting Oricle Linux... with a windows error pop-up.

[#] Fri Aug 22 2014 02:46:53 EDT from dothebart

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[#] Fri Aug 22 2014 07:55:13 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Does anyone actually use Oracle Linux?  "It's built from the same sources as Red Hat, just like CentOS, except you get to pay us for it!"

Sure, that will work great. 

[#] Fri Aug 22 2014 08:40:36 EDT from fleeb

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It's especially odd considering they have their own Unix in Solaris. You'd think they'd make an effort to make that a tad more... presentable?

[#] Fri Aug 22 2014 09:36:59 EDT from dothebart

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well, if you want to run teh oracle on it, then it could be a thing to do - from the perspective you have one person to blame for your problems, and no fingerpointing possible.

I don't think anybody else would opt in for unbreakable linux.

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