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2024-10-24 06:08 from nonservator
Subject: Re: systemd.mount
Linus Torvalds has a two-year old's understanding of politics
and believes everything he is told by the Western regimes. I'm
sure I'm not the only dementia patient who still has some vague
recollection about free software being a universal project of
all humanity, transcending such primitive notions as national
borders - after all, only stupid primitive people believe in
things like "countries". No, we free software developers are
"citizens of the world"! But that was then, and this is [CURRENT
YEAR].
Fuck Linus, fuck Linux, and fuck Clown World.
It would be of great help to me to have a context for this rant. Is it for something that is going on on the media that I have missed?
2024-10-24 13:18 from IGnatius T Foobarthe problem with Wayland, from where I sit, is that they still
haven'tgotten it fully production-ready after how many years/decades?
What's considered production ready? When it appeared as the default
display engine on Ubuntu I started using it, and I didn't really notice
a difference.
Everything just kept appearing on the screen like it always did
before. I guess it's possible that I'm not doing anything particularly
taxing, but it runs the desktop environment, handles video just fine,
and it doesn't crash on any of my machines. <shrug>
I recently did some work with one of those "modern" "cool" Linux distributions. It packed Wayland and the way I noticed was because it was causing trouble. Specifically, it was preventing some software from going into fullscreen properly.
I am all for removing cruft from the stack but Linux distributions as of today are fixing non-broken things and replacing those components with subpar solutions. This feeling I used to have with Windows back in the day - you purchased a new computer and it worked worse than your old computer because the new software sucked cocks.
I used to be thankful Slackware held its ground and only adopted the new stuff once everybody else had been testing it for 3 years. Now I am happy we have the BSDs for taking refuge from mainstream FOSS madness.
But running a full remote desktop is not the same as a remote app calling gfx functions locally.
Mon Oct 28 2024 15:01:31 EDT from LoanSharkAnd if you really want something like an X terminal, there are plenty of remote desktop protocols out there that are technically far superior to X11. The X11 protocol suffers from some severe inefficiencies.
But running a full remote desktop is not the same as a remote app calling gfx functions locally.
Remoting a single application was fun -- back when it actually worked -- but that ship has sailed. As I noted earlier, even X11 can't really do that anymore unless you are running the simplest of applications. Meanwhile, that functionality is now appearing in RDP and FreeRDP along with things like relative mouse movement and sound and other niceties that will bring back "that" experience if it's really what you're looking for.
The traditional use case was "I manage a bunch of machines and I want the apps all displaying on the same desktop." The new use case is "I run multiple virtual machines and I want their apps all displaying on the host desktop." The technology required to do so is actually the same. If you have a machine running Windows 11 and WSL2, fire up a graphical application on the Linux side of the machine and take a look. It's working. It's there. And it's running Wayland with single-window remoting.
I get it. The journey to Wayland has taken way too long. It has to happen. X11 brings way too much technical debt to be sustainable.
And, just to clarify i DO see a purpose of a remote desktop ( and ill do that myself on low bandwidth links or to offer someone a Linux desktop to 'play with', most often via XRDP + guacamole, sometimes via X2GO ). Just not fond of it being at the expense of losing remote applications.
and magically appeared on LXers feed
https://news.itsfoss.com/raspberry-pi-os-wayland/
One more reason for me to hate RPI. Crap hardware, crap software and crap proprietary locked-in peripherals ( at least cameras are ). Die in a painful fire. I hope they go out of business when the Chinese invade Taiwan this winter and the supply of cheap silicon stops.
"On 1st November 2024, FreeBSD completes 31 years since its initial release"
..and sort of related i wonder what ever happened to our resident cat, and FreeBSD lover..
Just got noticed they are releasing a special issue with the best of Linux Magazine 2024, and if you buy an extra special edition you get a copy of 100 Cool Linux Hacks.
I am not a fan of the Cool Linux Hacks series, but free is free, right?
"On 1st November 2024, FreeBSD completes 31 years since its
initial release"
There you go. If you really want to avoid systemd and wayland, FreeBSD is an excellent way to get there.
It's also the reason I'll never be able to get rid of virtual machines and switch to LXC entirely -- I need virtual machines for FreeBSD. (And sometimes Windows, but I can go years between the times I need Windows in my homelab.)
Yes its always an option to go back. Its where i came from ( well after i left the Atari-TOS camp, and my brief time with VSTa, which i still love but not practical in this day and age ). I left the *BSD camp mainly due to drivers, and why i went with Debian, it was the 'closest' i could find to *BSD in penguin-land, and at the time was truly open and not fly-by-night. While basic WiFi and video are now not as big of a deal, CUDA ( and now T/NPU ) is. Also limited ARM support effects me. ( not non-existent, just limited )
But when the time comes to bail if im not yet ready to give up on the entire industry and go to appliances, who knows, it might be the correct option for me again, instead of a hacked up Linux of some sort to get rid of the cruft.
And i think im done for the day. I cant twist my left arm but a few degrees without massive pain, so one-handed typing. Glad im off work for a few days. Good luck on the migration.
There you go. If you really want to avoid systemd and wayland, FreeBSD is an excellent way to get there.
actually a funny story..
When Linux was not quite self hosting and came on the "root boot" disks, and you had to hand edit the boot sector if you moved it to a disk... it had no GUI and could barely even boot. I had used MGR on BSD ( 386 i think.. i forget which flavor now, it was EARLY ) reasons and thought that would be great for Linux too. With my limited C ability at the time i decided to try to port it over, with what resources i had saved before it got cut off as right after i started, i lost access to the network, and was BBS only ( long story ) a year later i about had something working and got back online. By then X11 happened. and the world was different than when i left it.
Even had bought ( ok 'permanently borrowed' to be honest ) a 386sx to be able to run Linux. Had a 286 running either DesqView or OS/2, ( at least until a couple months later as somehow got a power surge thru the phone lines, and it blew out my modem card AND motherboard.. ) and of course my Atari ST, which was thankfully not plugged in that night. tho with an external modem, it might have survived.
( now some of the facts may be wrong in reality as i had really limited access to the outside world then for a variety of reasons. But it was what i could see of the world out my little window, so was my reality )
Well this is interesting...
[ https://techrights.org/n/2024/10/31/SCO_Darl_McBride_Dead_at_Age_64.shtml ]
Darl McBride, of "SCO" fame, has been dead for two months and nobody noticed, nobody cared much. (For our younger viewers, this was the *second* incarnation of SCO, the one that Microsoft funded to try to sueball Linux out of existence ... not the original SCO that was a pioneer of unix on x86.)
So long, Darl ... may you continue to fail at suing people in the afterlife.
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So long, Darl ... may you continue to fail at suing people in the afterlife.
Darl McBride, of "SCO" fame, has been dead for two months and nobody
noticed, nobody cared much. (For our younger viewers, this was the
That's how I wanna go.
Last spring when i was fighting with drivers for a RK3588, someone suggested i looked at FydeOS. " its based on chromiumOS and has drivers from google" Went to look, it was proprietary. so i moved on. I guess at some point they have opened up their code, "openFyde". Which, i am now interested in.
It also seems to add back in Android on x86, which Flex does not support, which is odd, as my Pixelbook is an i7 and it does... And with the word on the street of Flex going away, i thought id look at alternatives where a full Linux is overkill ( like for family.... simplicity "its a lot like your phone" ).
Has anyone ever had any experience with the project ( preferably the open project. i guess you can use their commercial one for free now, "unless you want support or updates", but still not interested.
Cool. ( reading this quarter's FBSD news letter ) Someone wrote a GUI for managing bhyve, sort of like virt-manager.
And they used of all things, Lazarus .... lol
That's how I wanna go.
How sad. Everyone ought to leave a legacy of some sort.
( From LXer's feed. ) Been here before. DO NOT TRUST THESE PEOPLE ( and, a serious question, in 2024, does anyone actually use them anymore? )
https://www.theregister.com/2024/11/11/qnx_8_freeware/