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[#] Thu Aug 29 2024 13:32:50 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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I wouldn't be surprised. Copilot Bob.

[#] Thu Aug 29 2024 17:31:28 UTC from Nurb432

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I was joking.

But not joking, i am one of the few people that thought the *concept* of something 'friendly' for the non-it person wasn't a bad idea.  Sure, their implementation was total garbage but the idea of making it less 'computerish' wasn't a bad idea.  Apple sort of did that with the newton too. I though it worked well there.   I think someone else did something similar, which wasn't as bad as Bob, but never took off either. ( for the 64 for perhaps? Or Amiga? I don't remember now but i don't think there was a flavor for the Atari and was commodore centric )

Of course today, no need for it, everyone have learned enough to get by, and "general use' interfaces ( like phones ) have become simpler.

Thu Aug 29 2024 09:32:50 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar
I wouldn't be surprised. Copilot Bob.

 



[#] Thu Aug 29 2024 20:59:47 UTC from Nurb432

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lol

And after all my praise for LXDE, couple of hours ago my screen blinked. The task bar turned grey. No more icons, not even the menu.  Somehow it corrupted itself, removing some files in the config folder reset it.   Mouse menu worked, as did any icon on the desktop.. at least until you minimized it down to the tray.. then it vanished.    Had to create a sh file saved on the desktop that ran bash... then run that in a terminal.. only way i could start arbitrary apps.  ( like a browser so i could see if this known )

First time for everything i guess.



[#] Wed Sep 11 2024 21:18:36 UTC from darknetuser

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Hi, dudes. I was doing some casual research on the Asustor crisis with the Deadbolt ransomware. For those who don't know, Asustor is a NAS appliance brand.

For those who do know, anybody could tell me which was the attack vector that ransomwared so many devices around 2022 or so?

[#] Wed Sep 11 2024 21:32:11 UTC from Nurb432

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Im in that group, and never even heard of the attack.  Sounds bad tho.

Wed Sep 11 2024 17:18:36 EDT from darknetuser
 For those who don't know, Asustor is a NAS appliance brand.




[#] Wed Sep 11 2024 21:57:49 UTC from darknetuser

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2024-09-11 17:32 from Nurb432
Im in that group, and never even heard of the attack.  Sounds
bad tho.

Yeh, some mafia caused around 3 million in dataloss damages to pocket a couple thousand dollar lol.

aaand this is the reason why I put appliances in their own isolated VLAN.

[#] Mon Sep 30 2024 14:46:20 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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I still don't understand why anyone who knows how to operate a basic server would run "NAS Operating System" distributions in the first place.

[#] Mon Sep 30 2024 16:22:02 UTC from Nurb432

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Appliances?

Mon Sep 30 2024 10:46:20 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar
I still don't understand why anyone who knows how to operate a basic server would run "NAS Operating System" distributions in the first place.

 



[#] Tue Oct 01 2024 02:34:54 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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Probably.  I happen to think that people who are not good with computers should not own them.  😉



[#] Tue Oct 01 2024 11:31:40 UTC from Nurb432

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Tho could be in hardware, we are talking about NAS appliances here.

 

My new RK3588 board came yesterday.. took just at a week after ordering ( doubt we see that again soon, if ever ).  32G ram. 4, yes *4* M.2 slots for NVME.   But only 1 Ethernet so cant physically separate out data traffic from control traffic ( thinking ceph ).

Also grabbed another NanoPi NEO  board, to shove in an old NAS appliance i bought from the same people, just got the wrong 'board' originally by accident so never did put it together ( several years ago actually.. sort of forgot i had it, ran across it during this round of purge/reorg ). 



[#] Mon Oct 07 2024 14:31:13 UTC from Nurb432

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Well this is a new one. for me anyway.

Playing with the new board.  Thought i'd mount one of the M.2s as my home drive to play with it and stress it a bit.  Formatted, manually mounted. Works fine. Went to edit fstab, its empty.. never seen that before.

Odd.. But went ahead and added my mount point. Reboot. its being ignored. ( even manually mounting with -a, its ignored too )



[#] Mon Oct 07 2024 15:32:02 UTC from Nurb432

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Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

They are doing it via systemd.

Pottering should die in a fire. Literally.

Mon Oct 07 2024 10:31:13 EDT from Nurb432

Well this is a new one. for me anyway.

Playing with the new board.  Thought i'd mount one of the M.2s as my home drive to play with it and stress it a bit.  Formatted, manually mounted. Works fine. Went to edit fstab, its empty.. never seen that before.

Odd.. But went ahead and added my mount point. Reboot. its being ignored. ( even manually mounting with -a, its ignored too )



 



[#] Mon Oct 07 2024 19:41:35 UTC from nonservator

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Which distro? Debian is systemd but apparently haven't done this yet.



[#] Mon Oct 07 2024 19:42:35 UTC from Nurb432

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Debian, ARM64.

Distributed by friendly elec. 

 

Mon Oct 07 2024 15:41:35 EDT from nonservator

Which distro? Debian is systemd but apparently haven't done this yet.



 



[#] Mon Oct 07 2024 21:38:06 UTC from darknetuser

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2024-09-30 10:46 from IGnatius T Foobar
I still don't understand why anyone who knows how to operate a basic

server would run "NAS Operating System" distributions in the first
place.



I was not talking about a "distribution" in the traditional meaning of the word. I am talking about NAS appliances in which you buy the hardware and it comes with a factory OS for NASing.

I pretty much prefer actual servers rather than NAS appliances, but sometimes you find an outdated NAS appliance at a heavy discount and it makes sense to get it, even if jailbreaking it is not worth it (or only worth it for the fun).

[#] Mon Oct 07 2024 21:39:16 UTC from darknetuser

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2024-09-30 22:34 from IGnatius T Foobar
Probably.  I happen to think that people who are not good with
computers should not own them.  😉

I agree. the problem is when I mention this, people screams bloody murder and chases me with pitchforks, including IT pros.

[#] Tue Oct 08 2024 01:53:02 UTC from zelgomer

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They are doing it via systemd.


Yep, I was going to reply and tell you fstab is just a proxy to some systemd bullshit now. Sorry I got here so late.

[#] Fri Oct 11 2024 20:53:02 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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To be fair, the introduction of `systemd` into the filesystem mount process replaced a lot of other ugliness that had to happen in order to permit network mounts in `/etc/fstab` to be performed in a clean way. Consider an NFS mount.
All sorts of magic has to happen to make sure the mount is attempted only after the network is operational, otherwise it either hangs or fails. Workarounds such as `auto/noauto` and `soft` can sort of get it done, but only the dependency resolution of `systemd` can specifically call out the order of operations to get everything stood up in the correct order without a bunch of conditional fails and retries, or waiting unnecessarily long.

`systemd` is now a core component of Linux and is here to stay. If you find it objectionable you might consider a switch to FreeBSD.

[#] Sat Oct 12 2024 00:02:13 UTC from Nurb432

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if it wasn't for some requirements such as cuda and 1/2 way functional WiFi, id have gone back long ago.

i am right on the edge of flipping the penguin the bird, again.

Fri Oct 11 2024 16:53:02 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar Subject: systemd.mount

`systemd` is now a core component of Linux and is here to stay. If you find it objectionable you might consider a switch to FreeBSD.

 



[#] Sat Oct 12 2024 00:06:49 UTC from Nurb432

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Oh and on my 4th try i did get Devuan to install.. But none of their mirrors are available, so cant install anything else.. Short of a bunch of compiling.. ( not exactly a bad thing to build it all, but just to equipment with, i don't want to screw it that much )



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