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[#] Sat Apr 20 2013 18:24:44 EDT from triLcat @ Uncensored

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Are you guys hearing about the rocket attacks in Southern Israel?

I'm just curious if it's being reported.

No loss of life over the past couple of days, but it's a matter of time before Israel's forced into another incursion into Gaza :(

 



[#] Sat Apr 20 2013 20:31:41 EDT from zooer @ Uncensored

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I don't mean to change topics from triLcat's post but this room reminded me. I thought the first bomb at the
Boston marathon went off under the Israeli flag but I couldn't tell for sure.

[#] Sat Apr 20 2013 20:39:02 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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triLcat:

No, we've been distracted with the Boston bombing. I thought I remember hearing something about a rocket attack several days ago (I think while I was at NAB), but I'm not sure... that week was quite a blurr for me.

[#] Sun Apr 21 2013 04:28:43 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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hm, yea 'rockets on israeli bathing resort' was one of the headlines which zapped through. next to heavy earthquakes in china & pakistan with > 50 death each.

but... for shure boston bombing was the verry dominant headlines.



[#] Sun Apr 21 2013 17:05:15 EDT from triLcat @ Uncensored

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Someone will, of course, find a way to say that the Mossad was behind the bombings.. because the Mossad is really concerned about marathoners in the US when the Iranians are like 20 seconds from having a nuclear bomb aimed at us... 

 

But... yes, I see that the Boston Marathon bombing is clearly going to be at the top of everyone's awareness.

 

What's interesting is that the Texas fertilizer plant explosion, which actually had more casualties, doesn't seem to be hitting the top of the news. And forgive me if I just don't believe that it was an accident when it happened 20 years to the day, less than 20 miles from the Branch Davidian compound...



[#] Sun Apr 21 2013 22:35:13 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Yeah, the Boston thing was a major distraction here. I'm a little surprised at the lack of coverage for Texas.

[#] Mon Apr 22 2013 01:31:50 EDT from triLcat @ Uncensored

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An entire town was devastated - a nursing home collapsed. Just because there's no manhunt going on... it's not news?!



[#] Mon Apr 22 2013 11:19:45 EDT from zooer @ Uncensored

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Two things are important.

1) What will sell more commercials during the entertainment called a newscast.

2) What will keep people more fearful, fear allows for control.

[#] Mon Apr 22 2013 18:18:52 EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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2) What will keep people more fearful, fear allows for control.

From an ethics perspective, it's important to avoid misplaced blame.

The media should not be blamed for this act of terror, and I don't find their coverage of it particularly objectionable (not even in the same way that the initial, confused, factually inaccurate yet hyperactive coverage of 9/11 was objectionable.)


The coverage is not surprising. This is an international incident and heavily political. We're going to be sorting through the ramifications for a while yet. It's a lot more complicated than the dry, technical nature of assigning blame for whoever's fuckup caused the Texas thing.

[#] Mon Apr 22 2013 23:31:13 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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The media can only be blamed to the extent with which pretty much *everything* is politicized these days. Aside from that, terrorism is just so darned sensational that they'll talk about it for as long as they can to keep people tuned in.
Making them afraid will keep them tuned in even longer!

[#] Tue Apr 23 2013 06:37:27 EDT from triLcat @ Uncensored

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No one's blaming the media for the bombs. I'm blaming the media for caring about the perps. The perps should just be ignored completely. Terrorists should know that their 'cause' (if they even have one) won't get any press from terrorism.

 



[#] Tue Apr 23 2013 11:21:09 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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hm, I think that lockdown is more mentionable - since that didn't happen in texas. And - its unparalelled afaik?

And, one week to track down the guys, thats quick. It however also shows how much video & pics are available from such situations...



[#] Tue Apr 23 2013 12:54:45 EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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Apr 23 2013 6:37am from triLcat @uncnsrd
No one's blaming the media for the bombs. I'm blaming the media for


zooer, made the wrong and deeply misguided statement implying that the media are running this coverage to keep people afraid and under control - or something, I'm not sure exactly what his point was.


I pointed out that this coverage is the automatic result of the bombings.





Of coure people want to hear the story.

[#] Tue Apr 23 2013 22:21:13 EDT from zooer @ Uncensored

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zooer, made the wrong and deeply misguided statement implying that the
media are running this coverage to keep people afraid and under control
- or something, I'm not sure exactly what his point was.


Ohh there I go again, being a prick and insulting people.

[#] Tue Apr 23 2013 23:28:44 EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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You're still not over that? ;) Clearly I do think you're being overly
cynical. Oh, I know where you get it: dystopian fic from the likes of
Orwell and Terry Gilliam's Brazil. The oceania wars and all that;
Orwell's notion of war as distraction.

But it doesn't add up. Look, this media focus on the recent terroristic
events in Boston is not about "controlling the population" or whatever
conspiracy you want to come up with. The media focus you're seeing is
the natural result of what people want to see. People are hurting and
they want justice, and they are entitled to that; and they want answers.

Seriously, a large number of my friends were attacked.

I have friends who actually work in news media for a living, and
believe it or not, they don't like reporting this stuff any more than
you don't enjoy watching it.

[#] Wed Apr 24 2013 06:23:02 EDT from triLcat @ Uncensored

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I'm a cynic. 

If a bombing of the magnitude of the Boston Marathon happened in Israel, it would be out of the news in 36 hours. And my city's been shut down during  manhunt for a bomber this year. 

Seriously. I thought they'd shut down traffic and went out to get my son from daycare. Turned out that the suspect was apprehended about two blocks away.

Whatevs. Day in the life. 

Though things are much better with the wall. 

 



[#] Wed Apr 24 2013 06:25:39 EDT from triLcat @ Uncensored

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And the flip side of it is that a whole town was devastated by the fertilizer plant. That would be all over the news. 



[#] Wed Apr 24 2013 07:08:18 EDT from zooer @ Uncensored

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Loanshark, I am not suprised you have friends in the media. I have worked in the news media as well.

Horror stories get ratings that is important for the station. The individual might not like reporting it, but
the station wants the revenue. News is entertainment to sell advertising. Nothing more.

The individual wants the awards, the truth doesn't matter.

I don't know why you are so angry all the time Loanshark.

[#] Wed Apr 24 2013 12:51:33 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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LS is a pretty laid back dude ... even though I frequently disagree with him on political issues I hardly think of him as "angry"

[#] Wed Apr 24 2013 13:28:09 EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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I only get angry when people single me out by name and try to drag me into a conversation that I had no part
of, by asking "gee, I wonder what LoanShark thinks about this" with a big implied eye-roll.

Such a person who asked what I think is going to be told when I think, from then on, in no uncertain terms.
IOW, you brought it on yourself, bub, so if you can't stand the heat... you know the rest.

By the way, I'm not angry at all at this point. I just disagreed with the view you expressed.

So back on that subject. It's far too cynical and negative to push this off as just the media trying to
manipulate us for profit, or for political control. People really did get hurt, and the attackers weren't the
media. It's misplaced blame. Agree with the views in their coverage or disagree with it, and there are plenty
of views on both sides; but the coverage itself is necessary. In
America anyway -- triL has a point. Boston
bombings don't happen every day here, and we'd like to keep it that way.

I just don't believe it's healthy to turn everything into that sort of conspiracy theory. Nor does it
constructively speak to the real issues at hand.

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