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[#] Sun Jan 18 2015 13:49:56 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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By the way, I know "real electricians" are confident enough in their splices that they don't use anything other than wire nuts, but I feel better wrapping them in tape as well. I don't want to think there's any chance of it coming loose later.

That's what amateur electricians have in common with drag queens ... we both tape our nuts.

[#] Sun Jan 18 2015 17:27:30 EST from dothebart

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I hope you remain safe in that home. Do you have smoke detectors? After such a thing maybe worth the money.



[#] Sun Jan 18 2015 20:30:44 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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Smoke detectors are mandatory. We have three of them.

[#] Mon Jan 19 2015 17:59:48 EST from the_mgt

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Three of them in each room? Or in a whole house?

Mandatory in each room makes sense, but "spread them as you like and pray" seems religious. Cover the other rooms with paintings of St. Florian.

And do your really use enclosures for wiring made out of unpainted metal?! Or what is the material of that boxen in your image?



[#] Mon Jan 19 2015 18:05:25 EST from the_mgt

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Sun Jan 18 2015 13:08:10 ESTfrom IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

So it looks like what I need is a RACO 187:

 

 

 

That's a joke item and the 187 refers to section 187 of the California Penal Code?



[#] Tue Jan 20 2015 09:20:08 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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Mandatory in each room makes sense, but "spread them as you like and
pray" seems religious. Cover the other rooms with paintings of St.

They aren't mandatory in *every* room, but one in each section of the house is the usual guideline; one in each bedroom is also recommended but my kids sleep with their doors open.

[#] Tue Jan 20 2015 09:30:48 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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And do your really use enclosures for wiring made out of unpainted
metal?! Or what is the material of that boxen in your image?

Yes, that's a metal box. In the US we always use metal boxes when working with armored cable or metal conduit. When using nonmetallic cable ("romex") plastic boxes are permitted.

There are some jurisdictions in which nonmetallic cable is prohibited, and some which even require conduit everywhere, but for the most part you do have a choice.

[#] Wed Jan 21 2015 00:32:18 EST from ax25

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Tue Jan 20 2015 09:30:48 AM EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored
And do your really use enclosures for wiring made out of unpainted
metal?! Or what is the material of that boxen in your image?

Yes, that's a metal box. In the US we always use metal boxes when working with armored cable or metal conduit. When using nonmetallic cable ("romex") plastic boxes are permitted.

There are some jurisdictions in which nonmetallic cable is prohibited, and some which even require conduit everywhere, but for the most part you do have a choice.

True.  My house has most recently become a mix and match house during some remodeling.  We have Romex (Thermoplastic-sheathed cable) and conduit mixed.  Thankfully we have the ability to tie the two together with the screw in clamps that you can get for the metal boxes to make the transitions.  We did have to put some junction boxes in the ceiling, but they are nicely covered by smoke detectors to make it less obvious.

 



[#] Wed Jan 21 2015 00:33:42 EST from ax25

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Thu Jan 15 2015 10:00:29 AM EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

What I really wanted was a dual-gang box that mounts on top of a single-gang box.

And unfortunately when I googled "electric box extender expander" it ignored "electric box" and showed me a lovely selection of penis pumps.

How unfortunate.  You get in spam, but you sometimes get the unexpected wtf result from a search engine as well.



[#] Mon Mar 09 2015 13:27:26 EDT from wizard of aahz

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Hey Ig - How do you handle shoveling snow off your roof?

[#] Mon Mar 09 2015 15:04:21 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Easy. I wait for Spring when it wil melt on its own.

[#] Wed Mar 11 2015 22:30:23 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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I eventually did find the equivalent of a RACO 187, made by Steel City and for about half the price. That went on top of the recessed box and brought it out into the surface mount universe, which is the proper way to work in a garage or basement. :)

I got everything else at Home Despot. GFCI outlet, conduit running up and over to the workbench area, two more surface mount boxes, an outlet at the workbench, and a switch that controls a new shop light overhead. It was a fun little project. I did need the light and outlets there, but really I just wanted to play around with conduit. This even gave me the opportunity to run separate conductors for the light and outlets, so that the light wouldn't be on the GFCI-protected circuit.

No big deal really, but I had fun doing it.

[#] Thu Mar 19 2015 23:09:18 EDT from ax25

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And now you have that super handy conduit bender to store :-)



[#] Fri Mar 20 2015 12:02:11 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Nope! I bought pulling elbows. :)

[#] Mon Mar 23 2015 17:49:51 EDT from ax25

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Hey, that is cheating :-)



[#] Mon Mar 23 2015 22:50:37 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Yup! Like I keep telling you people, I don't follow anyone else's rules.
:)

And because I "cheated" I now have a conduit run with nice tight zero-radius corners, and I spent $3 on hardware instead of $30+ on a tool I'd probably never use again.

For my next trick, I might like to gang a few more outlet boxes underneath the first one. One reason would be to be able to plug in more than two tools at once, but also it would give me a chance to play with nipples. (Chase nipples and offset nipples! What were *you* thinking?)

[#] Tue Mar 24 2015 10:16:27 EDT from wizard of aahz

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more than two tools at once, but also it would give me a chance to play

with nipples. (Chase nipples and offset nipples! What were *you*
thinking?)


I'm thinking that what you do in the privacy of your own garage is up to you.

[#] Fri Oct 02 2015 11:11:50 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Geez.

My generator video has gotten a lot of compliments but more than a few stupid comments.  This one might take the cake.

"Hi [IG], I was very surprised to se you connect a coiled cable to the house without explaining the very real danger of doing this. Anyone with any experience in this realm knows that heat will build up"

Yup.  There it is.  A few feet of my generator hookup cable is going to burn down the house.  You heard it here first.



[#] Fri Oct 02 2015 12:34:46 EDT from fleeb

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Hold tight
Wait 'till the party's over
Hold tight
We're in for nasty weather
There has got to be a way

...

[#] Sat Oct 03 2015 11:56:22 EDT from vince-q <vince-q@ns1.netk2ne.net>

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"Hi [IG], I was very surprised to se you connect a coiled cable to
the house without explaining the very real danger of doing this.
Anyone with any experience in this realm knows that heat will build
up"

Yup.  There it is.  A few feet of my generator hookup cable is
going to burn down the house.  You heard it here first.


IG, I hate to say this but according to everything I know about AC he does have a point. I doubt your setup is even remotely dangerous however, running AC through a coil causes inductive reactance losses (heat) and that heat *does* have to "go somewhere."

--K2NE

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