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[#] Tue Jan 31 2012 13:26:42 EST from Spell Binder

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Hmmm....Stage 3 is missing.

1. Steal underwear.
2. ????
3. Make money.

[#] Tue Jan 31 2012 13:29:48 EST from wizard of aahz

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3. Make money.

Spell - that's what color laser printers are for.

[#] Tue Jan 31 2012 15:58:22 EST from LoanShark

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There is NO stage 3.

[#] Tue Jan 31 2012 17:50:27 EST from the_mgt

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And since google bashing is one of my hobbies:

Yes, right, google uses open standards... like facebook for their chats. Now there are lots of multiprotocol IMs supporting gtalk and fbchat, but no pure and plain xmpp... big win for the open standard.

And yes, they only ask you to create a gmail account for the android devices... I dunno what epic shitstorm would have brewed up if MS made a hotmail account mandatory for win7 installations or things like "Sorry, you can not install Outlook with your Office suite if you don't register with hotmail."

And your "only gmail" account opens up the doors of R'lyeh: Whatever google affiliated site you visit, you are already logged in. They take all your browsing traces and they link it to your search profiles, etc etc etc. This is prime data and I can not even benefit in beautifully personalized ads, since I have been blocking ads for the last ten years.

I needed to create a google docs account for a  project to coordinate better. I only used it in Firefox, since Opera is my main browser and I block all google cookies there. When I realized that FF hat autologged me into youtube, I nuked the FF profile and started using the google account only in FFs "porn mode" (strg+shift+p).

In my oppinion, the only thing "open" about google is you as a user. Open like a book to be read thoroughly. Now, the thing I find most odd i in the time of post-privacy and all that "I have nothing to hide" attitude is: why do people cry out if their credit card information gets stolen from Sony Corp., for example? Might it be that there is data you want to keep private? Or do you simply lock the toilet door behind you out of habit? 

[#] Wed Feb 01 2012 13:45:30 EST from zooer

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People scare me with that "I have nothing to hide" and "If you are not doing anything wrong you have nothing to worry about." thought processes.  It allows governments and others to walk all over you. 

At my old employer we used "Google for your domain", we had to use gmail.  I tried sending an encrypted zip file to someone, gmail rejected it. If they can't pry into it, they wont let you send it.  I also read an article once where Google said, "We decide what is evil"

Can you create a Gmail account or does it have to be linked to an already existing email account?


[#] Thu Feb 02 2012 05:40:09 EST from the_mgt

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You can just create one without linking it to another one. But most people I know  do link in their other mail accounts by pulling  mail via pop3 from them, so they aggregate all their maiils in gmail. This way, google has quite a good overview with whom my various mail accounts are interacting...

I hadn't heard about the encrypted zip issue, will test that with a friend soon.

Google docs somehow tries to convince me every single time I log in that it is in my interest to tell them my mobile phone number or else they can not reactivate my account if I forgot my password... GOOGSOC is soooo caring for its citizens.  Of course there is no "don't bother me" checkbox.

Youtube also notices everytime I visit the site that they think I am in germany and they set my language to german, they display this in an annoyingly big box, like those wikipedia begging boxes recently. All I'd need to make my language setting permanent is activating js and accepting their cookies... If they can decide what's god for me without cookie and js, why don't they just do it silently?!

[#] Thu Feb 02 2012 07:08:44 EST from dothebart

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if you buy a vista fone, you _are_ exactly forced to use the microsoft cloud services.

they are even specified not to have local storage or sd cards anymore.

while you can use an android without a google account, maybe except for installing apps through the appstore, a vista-fon is a gay colored brick without a hotmail account.

[#] Fri Feb 03 2012 09:28:14 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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All you google bashers ought to be afraid of what will happen if the Google ad network is superseded by a Facebook ad network. They *are* talking about it. Imagine all of those "Like" buttons on every site becoming the basis of an ad network that knows the intimate details of your personal life and shows ads based on knowing who you are rather than what type of site you are viewing.

[#] Fri Feb 03 2012 13:57:03 EST from zooer

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I don't use facebook either, I block javascripts from both facebook and google.  Keep evil out of you life.

[#] Fri Feb 03 2012 15:56:44 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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Cool! That's just what I need!

[#] Mon Feb 06 2012 15:30:29 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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The rollout of Google's metro fiber network is beginning in Kansas City this week. Looks like a cool project; I'd be interested in knowing more about what technology they plan to run on the fiber (PON or just ordinary Ethernet or whatever). The telco and cable monopolies could use a good swift Google-sized kick in the pants.

[#] Tue Feb 07 2012 15:02:55 EST from Spell Binder

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Maybe they'll run ATM on top of a series of SONET rings.


[#] Tue Feb 07 2012 16:07:15 EST from wizard of aahz

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Someone give Spell a tranquilizer

[#] Tue Feb 07 2012 17:43:52 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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I was hoping they'd go with 1 Tbps FDDI.

[#] Tue Feb 14 2012 21:06:50 EST from zooer

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training people to submit to authority in one more way.

Kinda like Google. (couldn't resist)

[#] Sat Feb 25 2012 11:52:41 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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Naah, teh Google is training people to have lives that are more organized, connected, and rich with useful information. Apple and Microsoft are trying to train people to be dumb sheep.

[#] Sat Feb 25 2012 11:53:18 EST from zooer

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From the user list:

"(not logged in) Google Overlords"

They are watching, no wonder foobar is so defensive.

[#] Sat Feb 25 2012 12:00:06 EST from zooer

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Google is trying to convince people to have Google store all their information so Google can go through it. They try to convince you it is for your
good and will make your life easier. Don't fear them, if you are not doing anything wrong you have nothing to worry about. The government likes to use
that also.
A government/business that has enough power to control or give you everything, also has the power to take it all away.

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