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[#] Sat Feb 13 2021 19:20:47 EST from MikeGolden

Subject: Re: Sender address added to recipient address (Error 550)

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Newbie to Linux here so go easy. Also, since I can only say this once, it's my first public forum post in >20 years.

 

I have Apache2 and Citadel/Webcit-https installed and working on a virtual host with Ubuntu 20.04.

 

The email problem is there are always two "To: ..." sections included in the email header, which results in email getting kicked back by some servers with:

 

  Delivery Status Notification (Failure)

 

  ... (550 Messages should have one or no To headers, not 2. )

 

This happens with entirely webcit internal email (i.e., no external email client touching the message). And identically, when replying to a message from an internal user or from an external email address message.

 

An example Header looks like:

 

 

 

 Return-Path: admin@domain.net

 

  Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2021 13:19:18 -0700

 

  To: admin@domain.net

 

  To: mgolden@domain.net

 

  Subject: Test admin-->mgolden

 

  Message-ID: <60283446-00000060@hostname.domain.net>

 

  From: "admin" <admin@domain.net>

 

  MIME-Version: 1.0

 

  X-Mailer: WebCit 927

 

 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Citadel--Multipart--hostname.domain.net--1721--0002"

 

 

 

The first "To:..." is always the email address of the logged-in citadel user, whether it's a new message or a reply. The second "To:..." is always the intended recipient of the email..

 

Am really hoping to make Citadel work for us but this creates a no-go situation b/c I seemingly can't fix it or find a workaround.

 

Any suggestions? Thanks.

 

-Mike

P.S. Sorry for the accidental post to 'Main Floor'. Turns out it wasn't entirely my fault. At that moment I was using Brave (whereas here I'm using FireFox) and this site doesn't/didn't work right with Brave apparently...

 

 

 

 



[#] Sat Feb 13 2021 19:35:48 EST from MikeGolden

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Oops. The post also ended-up in LXer. The problem was this site seemingly doesn't work right using Brave. It's working differently/better with Firefox.



[#] Sun Feb 14 2021 18:09:46 EST from markus

Subject: Re: How to address smart hosts in citadel?

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Hello folks,

I did some investigation concerning my smart host problem.

What I have found so far: When I send mails with my mail user agent that connects to my citadel server and this citadel server is configured to use a smart host for outgojng mails then citadel porbably does not try to connect to the smart host. It is an assumption, but underpinned by the fact that I cannot find any entries in

/var/log/syslog

/var/log/mail.log

/var/log/mail.info

and my mail service provider that provides the smart host cannot find any smart host's log entries that would show that citadel tries to connect to it.

Dear memeber of the development team: Doesn't citadel log connections to smart hosts or is it possible that the smart host feature is actually not working?

Thanks,

Markus

 

Tue Feb 02 2021 17:04:07 EST from markus Subject: Re: How to address smart hosts in citadel?

Thanks for the responses of you both.

I think I have to explain what I did:

My old citadel system was running for years successfully using a smart host to deliver emails. The smart host was configured according to the following pattern:

   username:password@host:port

On my new citadel system I wanted to use the very same smart host. That's why I had configured the smart host the very same way. But while the old citadel system delivers mails via smart host, the new citadel system does not.

That's my problem. And that's why I was asking for the precise addressing in order to exclude any changes that could have been taking place on the road from the old to the most recent citadel system. And when I understand you right, warbaby, nothing has changed.

What I kno is that I can reach the smart host from both machines, from the older and the newer one. What I haven't done so far is asking the system administration people of the smart host if their log files can tell a story.

digbick, does your citadel system successfully deliver mails via smart host? If so, do you run the most recent webcit/citadel that is availabel via Easy Install?

warbay, when I try to find the reason for my smart host problem can I exclude any envolvement of citadel/webcit?

Thank you both a lot,

Markus

 

 

Mon Feb 01 2021 20:02:21 EST from warbaby Subject: Re: How to address smart hosts in citadel?

 

smart-host: Normally, Citadel sends outbound Internet e-mail directly to its destination. This may not be appropriate for some sites; you may require (due to local convention, security policy, or whatever) that all outbound mail be sent to an SMTP relay or forwarder. To configure this functionality, simply enter the domain name or IP address of your relay as a 'smart-host' entry.

If your relay server is running on a port other than the standard SMTP port 25, you can also specify the port number using "host:port" syntax; i.e. relay99.myisp.com:2525

Furthermore, if your relay server requires authentication, you can specify it using username:password@host or username:password@host:port syntax; for example, jsmith:pass123@relay99.myisp.com:25

A fallback host is a smart-host that is only used if mail cannot be delivered directly to its destination. This is useful if you prefer direct delivery but do not want your server queue filling up with deferred deliveries.

https://www.citadel.org/system_administration_manual.html

Mon Feb 01 2021 04:49:58 PM EST from digbick Subject: Re: How to address smart hosts in citadel?

 

Tue Jan 19 2021 17:47:56 EST from markus Subject: How to address smart hosts in citadel?

Hello all again,

could anybody tell me how smart host should be addressed in citadel (please be as precise as possible)?

Thanks in advance

Markus

 



 

From the Administration Menu, open:

Domain names and Internet mail configuration

Then fill the box at Smart hosts with the FQDN or IP address of your smarthost. That easy. The hard part is setting up a smarthost...

 



 



 



 



[#] Sun Feb 14 2021 18:33:09 EST from markus

Subject: What about deviding citadel/webcit into branches?

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Dear developers,

What would you think about introducing braches like for example 'unstable', 'testing' and 'stable' for citadel/webcit development? Developers could change code in 'unstable' branch, people would test the behaviour of citadel in 'testing' branch and people can use 'stable' branch for production.

Regards,

Markus



[#] Fri Feb 19 2021 14:46:17 EST from platonov

Subject: Webcit left button pannel not displayed

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Whenever I start the web browser after box reboot and webcit shows "Not Logged in", the left (vertical) button panel of webcit is not being displayed, but is simply blank.

So, the Log in button is not there and you have to change the address in the browser removing the previous command so you can redisplay the page and login panel shows up again.

Does anybody know what's to do to fix it?

 



[#] Sun Feb 21 2021 08:42:17 EST from Gaston

Subject: How to uninstall Citadel

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I installed Citadel and everything seemed to work till I sent 2 messages with no content in body of email and caused server to crash. Now I can no longer access the server. How would I go about uninstalling then reinstalling Citadel?



[#] Sun Feb 21 2021 09:18:02 EST from Gaston

Subject: Re: How to uninstall Citadel

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When I rerun setup. I get extension errors. Unable to start TCP on all ports. Please advise?



[#] Sun Feb 21 2021 09:40:22 EST from Gaston

Subject: Webcit

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How do I access WebCit?



[#] Sun Feb 21 2021 10:18:13 EST from Gaston

Subject: Errors when running setup

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Citadel had trouble on starting up. We couldn't bind all ports you configured to be provided by Citadel Server.
This means, Citadel won't be the service provider for a specific service you configured it to.

If you don't want Citadel to provide these services, turn them off in WebCit via: "Admin->System Preferences->Network".

The failed ports and sockets are: extensions: TCP port 0.0.0.0:504: (citadel-TCP) ;extensions: TCP port 0.0.0.0:143: (IMAP) ;extensions: TCP port 0.0.0.0:993: (IMAPS) ;extensions: TCP port 0.0.0.0:119: (NNTP) ;extensions: TCP port 0.0.0.0:563:
(NNTPS) ;extensions: TCP port 0.0.0.0:110: (POP3) ;extensions: TCP port 0.0.0.0:995: (POP3S) ;extensions: TCP port 0.0.0.0:25: (SMTP-MTA) ;extensions: TCP port 0.0.0.0:465: (SMTPs-MTA) ;extensions: TCP port 0.0.0.0:587: (SMTP-MSA)

If you want Citadel to provide you with that functionality, check the output of "netstat -lnp" on Linux, or "netstat -na" on BSD and disable the program that binds these ports.


To make both ways actualy take place restart the citserver with "sendcommand down"

The errors returned by the system were:
failed; failed; failed; failed; failed; failed; failed; failed; failed; failed

You can recheck the above if you follow this faq item:
http://www.citadel.org/doku.php?id=faq:mastering_your_os:net#netstat



[#] Sun Feb 21 2021 15:28:04 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: Sender address added to recipient address

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recipient: user@mydomain.com, user@gmail.com

 

why does citadel add sender address to recipient address ?

This is a new bug that has been discovered and fixed. Please download Citadel Server again (using Easy Install again if that's how you originally installed it) and you will receive the fix.

[#] Sun Feb 21 2021 15:28:53 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: Error 550 Messages should have one or no To headers, not 2

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  To: admin@domain.net

  To: mgolden@domain.net

This is a new bug that has been discovered and fixed.

Please update your Citadel Server again (for example, using the Easy Install script) and you will receive the fix.

[#] Mon Feb 22 2021 18:46:21 EST from tsalmon

Subject: Problems with initial setup

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I am generally new to setting up servers. I have read a few outdated guides on how to setup a Citadel Server.

I have weird problem. I Citadel installed on an Ubuntu 20 OS and it seems that my SMTP ports are closed.

My ip tables are blank and my UFW is disabled so all of my traffic should be allowed, but any inbound traffic to smtp ports is automatically dropped.

I am able to send emails to other organizations, but unable to receive them.

My DNS records and MX records are pointing correctly to my citadel server, this was confirmed when I restarted my Citadel server and was able for a brief time receive emails that I had previously sent.

I also did a local nmap scan on my Public Facing IP. It showed my ports being closed.

Is there anything that I could have misconfigured on initial Citadel setup?

 



[#] Wed Feb 24 2021 09:29:10 EST from Gaston

Subject: Re: Errors when running setup

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Can anyone help me with this? Happens every time I restart Citadel server in Webcit!



[#] Wed Feb 24 2021 11:51:11 EST from Gaston

Subject: Re: Errors when running setup

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Sun Feb 21 2021 10:18:13 EST from Gaston Subject: Errors when running setup

Citadel had trouble on starting up. We couldn't bind all ports you configured to be provided by Citadel Server.
This means, Citadel won't be the service provider for a specific service you configured it to.

If you don't want Citadel to provide these services, turn them off in WebCit via: "Admin->System Preferences->Network".

The failed ports and sockets are: extensions: TCP port 0.0.0.0:504: (citadel-TCP) ;extensions: TCP port 0.0.0.0:143: (IMAP) ;extensions: TCP port 0.0.0.0:993: (IMAPS) ;extensions: TCP port 0.0.0.0:119: (NNTP) ;extensions: TCP port 0.0.0.0:563:
(NNTPS) ;extensions: TCP port 0.0.0.0:110: (POP3) ;extensions: TCP port 0.0.0.0:995: (POP3S) ;extensions: TCP port 0.0.0.0:25: (SMTP-MTA) ;extensions: TCP port 0.0.0.0:465: (SMTPs-MTA) ;extensions: TCP port 0.0.0.0:587: (SMTP-MSA)

If you want Citadel to provide you with that functionality, check the output of "netstat -lnp" on Linux, or "netstat -na" on BSD and disable the program that binds these ports.


To make both ways actualy take place restart the citserver with "sendcommand down"

The errors returned by the system were:
failed; failed; failed; failed; failed; failed; failed; failed; failed; failed

You can recheck the above if you follow this faq item:
http://www.citadel.org/doku.php?id=faq:mastering_your_os:net#netstat



 



[#] Wed Feb 24 2021 15:20:39 EST from gll

Subject: Re: My citadel is no longer functioning

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Fri Jan 15 2021 03:37:10 EST from ColP Subject: Re: My citadel is no longer functioning

 

Mon Jan 11 2021 14:56:24 EST from calcmandan Subject: My citadel is no longer functioning

My citadel server, which is being used only for email, has degraded to the point that it no longer runs. I can't log into the web interface. My devices can't fetch mail. It is running on an ubuntu server and was configured after easy install.

After it stopped working, I attempted to do an easy install from an updated package. When I ssh into the box I get the following messages:

citserver[3250]: db: cdb_fetch(9): BDB0075 DB_PAGE_NOTFOUND: Requested page not found

I was seeing these messages even before attempting to patch with the latest. Not sure what to do from here.



Hi,

I‘m by no means an expert, but every problem I’ve had so far with Citadel has been a database one.

If it’s not happy with the data, the server won’t start. Do you have any backups of the data directory?



I've been running Citadel for 5 years, at least, and I'm finding now that the only way to keep it going is to restore the server from backup. Cleaning the database, reinstalling, and all the other scripts just send me in circles.  Once in a while I get lucky after deleting locks and sockets then using the scripts, it will function again, but for the time invested restoring from a working copy always works. On my email client, I keep local copies of important emails.



[#] Thu Feb 25 2021 14:13:30 EST from Gaston

Subject: Re: Errors when running setup

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Wed Feb 24 2021 11:51:11 EST from Gaston Subject: Re: Errors when running setup

 

Sun Feb 21 2021 10:18:13 EST from Gaston Subject: Errors when running setup

Citadel had trouble on starting up. We couldn't bind all ports you configured to be provided by Citadel Server.
This means, Citadel won't be the service provider for a specific service you configured it to.

If you don't want Citadel to provide these services, turn them off in WebCit via: "Admin->System Preferences->Network".

The failed ports and sockets are: extensions: TCP port 0.0.0.0:504: (citadel-TCP) ;extensions: TCP port 0.0.0.0:143: (IMAP) ;extensions: TCP port 0.0.0.0:993: (IMAPS) ;extensions: TCP port 0.0.0.0:119: (NNTP) ;extensions: TCP port 0.0.0.0:563:
(NNTPS) ;extensions: TCP port 0.0.0.0:110: (POP3) ;extensions: TCP port 0.0.0.0:995: (POP3S) ;extensions: TCP port 0.0.0.0:25: (SMTP-MTA) ;extensions: TCP port 0.0.0.0:465: (SMTPs-MTA) ;extensions: TCP port 0.0.0.0:587: (SMTP-MSA)

If you want Citadel to provide you with that functionality, check the output of "netstat -lnp" on Linux, or "netstat -na" on BSD and disable the program that binds these ports.


To make both ways actualy take place restart the citserver with "sendcommand down"

The errors returned by the system were:
failed; failed; failed; failed; failed; failed; failed; failed; failed; failed

You can recheck the above if you follow this faq item:
http://www.citadel.org/doku.php?id=faq:mastering_your_os:net#netstat



 Can anyone help me with this? Happens every time I restart Citadel server in Webcit!



 



[#] Fri Feb 26 2021 09:02:01 EST from Nurb432

Subject: "not Found" errors

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Not so much a question just an fyi, been seeing that a LOT today on the forums. 

Like every other refresh. 



[#] Fri Feb 26 2021 09:22:06 EST from ParanoidDelusions

Subject: Re: "not Found" errors

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I got a security error one today, too. 

 

Fri Feb 26 2021 09:02:01 EST from Nurb432 Subject: "not Found" errors

Not so much a question just an fyi, been seeing that a LOT today on the forums. 

Like every other refresh. 



 



[#] Sat Feb 27 2021 05:16:19 EST from markus

Subject: Re: Sender address added to recipient address

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Did you fix some of my other points that I have mentioned in

#] Thu Jan 28 2021 18:34:21 EST from markus

too? Or in other words: Where can I read about what was fixed or changed in the actual software?

Thanks

Markus

 

Sun Feb 21 2021 15:28:04 EST from IGnatius T Foobar Subject: Re: Sender address added to recipient address
recipient: user@mydomain.com, user@gmail.com

 

why does citadel add sender address to recipient address ?

This is a new bug that has been discovered and fixed. Please download Citadel Server again (using Easy Install again if that's how you originally installed it) and you will receive the fix.

 



[#] Sun Feb 28 2021 21:20:11 EST from lgwapnitsky

Subject: New install fails immediately

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Just installed Citadel on Ubuntu 20.04 from the repo. No configs have been changed, but, when accessing the web interface, I receive a 503 error that redirects me to a non-existent page in the Citadel docs.

This program was unable to connect or stay connected to the Citadel server. Please report this problem to your system administrator.
Read More...

Advice is welcome.

Thank you,

Larry



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