Hi all,

could somebody tell me how cardav and caldav clients should correctly address a citadel server?

Thanks in advance.

Hello all,

when ciitadel delivers an email it places a copy of the email in the sent-items-folder. Not an exact copy, because it adds the from-address as second to-address to the copy. How can I configure citadel leaving the header untouched?

I asked the question a couple of days back but I got no answer. So I hope this time somebody has already solved the problem and can kindly tell me how :-)  In case the solution is described in any citadel document I would be glad to know where.

Thanks in advance!

Markus

Hello all again,

could anybody tell me how smart host should be addressed in citadel (please be as precise as possible)?

Thanks in advance

Markus

Dear citadel user,

Is there any setup routine that could anchor citadel as a service that starts on system boot? I'm asking because webcit starts as a service on system boot and webcit on it's own makes no sense. So I would expect that such a routine exist.

Thanks in advance and have nice day,

Markus

Dear citadel user,

Is there any setup routine that could anchor citadel as a service that
starts on system boot? I'm asking because webcit starts as a service on
system boot and webcit on it's own makes no sense. So I would expect
that such a routine exist.

Thanks in advance and have nice day,

Markus

webcit (text/plain, 6132 bytes) [View| Download]

#! /bin/sh
### BEGIN INIT INFO
# Provides: webcit
# Required-Start: $local_fs $remote_fs
# Required-Stop: $local_fs $remote_fs
# Default-Start: 2 3 4 5
# Default-Stop: 0 1 6
# Short-Description: Example initscript
# Description: This file should be used to construct scripts to be
# placed in /etc/init.d.
### END INIT INFO

# uncomment this to create coredumps as described in
# http://www.citadel.org/doku.php/faq:mastering_your_os:gdb#how.do.i.make.my.system.produce.core-files
# ulimit -c unlimited

# Author: Wilfried Goesgens <citadel@outgesourced.org>
RUNDIR=/var/run/webcit
PATH=/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin
DESC="Citadel Groupware Webserver "
NAME=webcit
DAEMON=/usr/sbin/$NAME
DAEMON_ARGS=""
PIDFILE=$RUNDIR/$NAME.pid
SCRIPTNAME=/etc/init.d/webcit
SENDCOMMAND=/usr/sbin/sendcommand
DEFAULT=/etc/default/webcit
LOGDIR=/var/log/webcit/
DROP_TO_UID=`id -u nobody`

# Exit if the package is not installed
[ -x "$DAEMON" ] || exit 0

# Read configuration variable file if it is present
[ -r /etc/default/$NAME ] && . /etc/default/$NAME

MODERN=

# Load the VERBOSE setting and other rcS variables
if test -f /lib/init/vars.sh ; then
. /lib/init/vars.sh
MODERN=1
fi

# Define LSB log_* functions.
# Depend on lsb-base (>= 3.0-6) to ensure that this file is present.
if test -f /lib/lsb/init-functions; then
. /lib/lsb/init-functions
MODERN=1
fi

if test -f $DEFAULT; then
. $DEFAULT
fi

unset LANG
unset LANGUAGE
unset LC_ALL
unset LOCALE

if test -z "$TZ"; then
if test -e /etc/timezone; then
TZ=`cat /etc/timezone`
export TZ
fi
fi
#
# Function that starts the daemon/service
#
do_start()
{
#1: -p flag
#1: port
#2: ssl
#4: -f flag for apache

# for ubuntu: check our volatile dirs.
if test ! -d $RUNDIR; then
mkdir -p $RUNDIR
fi

if test ! -d $LOGDIR; then
mkdir -p $LOGDIR
fi

# are we disabled?
if test "$1" -lt "0"; then
return 0
fi

# Return
# 0 if daemon has been started
# 1 if daemon was already running
# 2 if daemon could not be started
if $DAEMON -u $DROP_TO_UID -D$PIDFILE.$1 \
-p$@ -t$LOGDIR/access.${1}.log $4; then
return 0
else
return 2
fi
}

#
# Function that stops the daemon/service
#
do_stop()
{
for i in $PIDFILE.*; do if test -f $i; then
kill `cat $i`
rm -f $i
fi; done
}

do_reload() {
do_stop
do_start $WEBCIT_HTTP_PORT $WEBCIT_CITADEL_IP $WEBCIT_CITADEL_PORT "" "$LISTEN" "$WEBCIT_APACHEFLAG"
do_start $WEBCIT_HTTPS_PORT $WEBCIT_CITADEL_IP $WEBCIT_CITADEL_PORT -s "$LISTEN" "$WEBCIT_APACHEFLAG"
return 0
}

case "$1" in
start)
if test -n "$MODERN"; then
[ "$VERBOSE" != no ] && log_daemon_msg "Starting $DESC" "$NAME"
else
echo "Starting $DESC" "$NAME"
fi

if test -n "$WEBCIT_LISTEN_IP"; then
LISTEN="-i$WEBCIT_LISTEN_IP"
fi

do_start $WEBCIT_HTTP_PORT $WEBCIT_CITADEL_IP $WEBCIT_CITADEL_PORT "" "$LISTEN" "$WEBCIT_APACHEFLAG"
do_start $WEBCIT_HTTPS_PORT $WEBCIT_CITADEL_IP $WEBCIT_CITADEL_PORT -s "$LISTEN" "$WEBCIT_APACHEFLAG"

if test -n "$MODERN"; then
case "$?" in
0|1) [ "$VERBOSE" != no ] && log_end_msg 0 ;;
2) [ "$VERBOSE" != no ] && log_end_msg 1 ;;
esac
fi
;;
stop)
if test -n "$MODERN"; then
[ "$VERBOSE" != no ] && log_daemon_msg "Stopping $DESC" "$NAME"
else
echo "Stopping $DESC" "$NAME"
fi
do_stop
if test -n "$MODERN"; then
case "$?" in
0|1) [ "$VERBOSE" != no ] && log_end_msg 0 ;;
2) [ "$VERBOSE" != no ] && log_end_msg 1 ;;
esac
fi
;;
restart|force-reload)
if test -n "$MODERN"; then
log_daemon_msg "Restarting $DESC" "$NAME"
else
echo "Restarting $DESC" "$NAME"
fi

do_stop

if test -n "$MODERN"; then
case "$?" in
0|1)
do_start $WEBCIT_HTTP_PORT $WEBCIT_CITADEL_IP $WEBCIT_CITADEL_PORT "" "$WEBCIT_APACHEFLAG"
do_start $WEBCIT_HTTPS_PORT $WEBCIT_CITADEL_IP $WEBCIT_CITADEL_PORT -s "$WEBCIT_APACHEFLAG"
case "$?" in
0) log_end_msg 0 ;;
1) log_end_msg 1 ;; # Old process is still running
*) log_end_msg 1 ;; # Failed to start
esac
;;
*)
# Failed to stop
log_end_msg 1
;;
esac
else
do_start $WEBCIT_HTTP_PORT $WEBCIT_CITADEL_IP $WEBCIT_CITADEL_PORT "" "$WEBCIT_APACHEFLAG"
do_start $WEBCIT_HTTPS_PORT $WEBCIT_CITADEL_IP $WEBCIT_CITADEL_PORT -s "$WEBCIT_APACHEFLAG"
fi
;;
*)
echo "Usage: $SCRIPTNAME {start|stop|restart|force-reload}" >&2
exit 3
;;
esac

:

citadel (text/plain, 5418 bytes) [View| Download]

#!/bin/sh
### BEGIN INIT INFO
# Provides: citadel
# Required-Start: $local_fs $remote_fs
# Required-Stop: $local_fs $remote_fs
# Default-Start: 2 3 4 5
# Default-Stop: 0 1 6
# Short-Description: control citadel server start at boot time
# Description: control citadel server start at boot time
### END INIT INFO

# uncomment this to create coredumps as described in
# http://www.citadel.org/doku.php/faq:mastering_your_os:gdb#how.do.i.make.my.system.produce.core-files
# ulimit -c unlimited

# Author: Wilfried Goesgens <citadel@outgesourced.org>

RUNDIR=/var/run/citadel
PATH=/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin
DESC="Citadel Groupware "
NAME=citserver
DAEMON=/usr/sbin/$NAME
PIDFILE=$RUNDIR/citadel.pid
DAEMON_ARGS=" -d -x9 -lmail -t/dev/null"
#DAEMON_ARGS=" -d -x2 -lmail -t/dev/null"
#DAEMON_ARGS=" -d -x3 -lmail -t/dev/null"
#DAEMON_ARGS=" -d -x4 -lmail -t/dev/null"
SCRIPTNAME=/etc/init.d/citadel
SENDCOMMAND=/usr/sbin/sendcommand

# Exit if the package is not installed
[ -x "$DAEMON" ] || exit 0

# Read configuration variable file if it is present
[ -r /etc/default/$NAME ] && . /etc/default/$NAME

MODERN=

# Load the VERBOSE setting and other rcS variables
if test -f /lib/init/vars.sh ; then
. /lib/init/vars.sh
MODERN=1
fi
# Define LSB log_* functions.
# Depend on lsb-base (>= 3.0-6) to ensure that this file is present.
if test -f /lib/lsb/init-functions; then
. /lib/lsb/init-functions
MODERN=1
fi

#
# Function that starts the daemon/service
#
do_start()
{
# for ubuntu: check our volatile dirs.
if test ! -d $RUNDIR; then
mkdir -p $RUNDIR
chmod go+rx $RUNDIR
fi
# Return
# 0 if daemon has been started
# 1 if daemon was already running
# 2 if daemon could not be started
if $DAEMON \
$DAEMON_ARGS ; then
return 0
else
return 2
fi
}

#
# Function that stops the daemon/service
#
do_stop()
{
# Return
# 0 if daemon has been stopped
# 1 if daemon was already stopped
# 2 if daemon could not be stopped
# other if a failure occurred
if $SENDCOMMAND "DOWN" >/dev/null 2>&1 ; then
if test ! -f "$PIDFILE"; then
echo Unable to find Citserver. Not running?
return 1
fi
PID=`cat $PIDFILE`
rm -f $PIDFILE
count=0;
while test -S /var/run/citadel/citadel.socket -o -d /proc/$PID; do
count=$(($count+1))
sleep 1
echo -n "."
if test "$count" = "10"; then
kill $PID
fi
if test "$count" = "20"; then
kill -9 $PID
rm -rf /var/run/citadel/*
fi
done
return 0
else
rm -f $PIDFILE
return 2
fi
}

#
# Function that sends a SIGHUP to the daemon/service
#
do_reload() {
# Return
# 0 if daemon could not be restarted
# 1 if daemon has been restarted
# other if a failure occurred
if $SENDCOMMAND "DOWN 1" 2>&1|grep '200 Restarting'>/dev/null ; then
return 1
fi
return 0
}

case "$1" in
start)
if test -n "$MODERN"; then
[ "$VERBOSE" != no ] && log_daemon_msg "Starting $DESC" "$NAME"
else
echo "Starting $DESC" "$NAME"
fi

do_start
if test -n "$MODERN"; then
case "$?" in
0|1) [ "$VERBOSE" != no ] && log_end_msg 0 ;;
2) [ "$VERBOSE" != no ] && log_end_msg 1 ;;
esac
fi
;;
stop)
if test -n "$MODERN"; then
[ "$VERBOSE" != no ] && log_daemon_msg "Stopping $DESC" "$NAME"
else
echo "Stopping $DESC" "$NAME"
fi
do_stop
if test -n "$MODERN"; then
case "$?" in
0|1) [ "$VERBOSE" != no ] && log_end_msg 0 ;;
2) [ "$VERBOSE" != no ] && log_end_msg 1 ;;
esac
fi
;;
restart|force-reload)
if test -n "$MODERN"; then
log_daemon_msg "Restarting $DESC" "$NAME"
else
echo "Restarting $DESC" "$NAME"
fi

do_reload

if test -n "$MODERN"; then
case "$?" in
0)
log_end_msg 0
;;
1)
# Failed to stop
log_end_msg 1
;;
esac
fi
;;
*)
echo "Usage: $SCRIPTNAME {start|stop|restart|force-reload}" >&2
exit 3
;;
esac

exit 0

Hi,

I’m migrating to Citadel 929 with WebCit 926 from Citadel/Webcit 8.15.

I found out that in WebCit 926 “Internet e-mail aliases” (‘menu options Administration’ | ‘Add, change, delete user accounts’ | <editting user configuration>) is now limited to only 512 characters and actually saves a bit less than that. 

So it seems that we are now limited in the number of alias emails we could use per account and better use short emails... This limitation allows for only about 20 aliases, give or take. However, in previous versions of Citadel (like Citadel/Webcit 8.15 where the aliases were defined in ‘Advance’ | ‘Update Your Contact Information’) there was no such limit: I had well over 70 aliases with no problem. I’m struggling now to finish a successful migration without a majour overahll to the email aliases.

Does anyone know (warbaby?) about that and if possible, how to increase, baypass or eliminate this new limitation on number/length of email aliases?

Thank you so much for your help!

More information - I checked and saw that the same issue is with the latest - Citadel 930 with WebCit 927.

I hoped that it may be only a limitation with webcit CSS and not in the script itself or the database, but even when I edited the webcit CSS file (/usr/local/webcit/static/t/aide/edituser/detailview.html) to increase the limitation from 512 characters to 1024 characters, only about 480 are saved and restored, not even 512. at 480 characters with an average of 30 characters per email, you can fit only 15 email aliases (and separating commas)

I really hope you can suggest a solution!

Thanks again

Wed Jan 20 2021 14:28:09 EST from omatnet Subject: Is it possible to increase/bypass Email Aliases limit of 512 chars?

Hi,

I’m migrating to Citadel 929 with WebCit 926 from Citadel/Webcit 8.15.

I found out that in WebCit 926 “Internet e-mail aliases” (‘menu options Administration’ | ‘Add, change, delete user accounts’ | <editting user configuration>) is now limited to only 512 characters and actually saves a bit less than that. 

So it seems that we are now limited in the number of alias emails we could use per account and better use short emails... This limitation allows for only about 20 aliases, give or take. However, in previous versions of Citadel (like Citadel/Webcit 8.15 where the aliases were defined in ‘Advance’ | ‘Update Your Contact Information’) there was no such limit: I had well over 70 aliases with no problem. I’m struggling now to finish a successful migration without a majour overahll to the email aliases.

Does anyone know (warbaby?) about that and if possible, how to increase, baypass or eliminate this new limitation on number/length of email aliases?

Thank you so much for your help!

I am trying to install certbot and I know citadel doesn't use Apache, right? Can anyone tell me the webroot?

Thanks in advance.

-Rob

CItadel doesn't have a webroot, neither technically does webcit.

You need to read the docs for letsencrypt/certbot and figure out how to generate a certificate.. [outside the scope here, although if you look back far enough, I have covered it.]

Take a look at the DNS plugins.. unless you're already running a web server on the same box.

Nginx/apache, unless specifically configured FOR webcit, is only going to cause you problems.. [if you need to do it though, use nginx, and certbot nginx, and run webcit on another port.]

Watch for the next post.

Thu Jan 21 2021 01:10:41 PM EST from rgreenly Subject: What is the webroot for citadel?

I am trying to install certbot and I know citadel doesn't use Apache, right? Can anyone tell me the webroot?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

-Rob

I have written this 3 times in the past 20 minutes. [Note to future webcit.. "use LocalStorage']

Generate certificate with certbot .. [5 methods, plus DNS plugins, you have to figure that out for your situation.]

cert appears in /etc/letsencrypt/live/mydomain.org

download & run the attached script..

It takes 1 argument.. the fqdn matching your cert (or at least, the name of the directory that it's in..]

run as root

./citadel-cert-import.sh mydomain.org

you can also cron it.

crontab -e

# Import certs to citadel & webcit

0 0 1 * * /path/to/citadel-cert-import.sh mydomain.org > /dev/null 2>&1

save and exit..

please note, you will also have to restart to take effect..

service citadel restart && service webcit-https restart

This is not what you do to renew your certificate! 

That might be simple, or complex..

it might only be

certbot renew  # wherever it is, that's what you cron also..

[but it depends on your setup..]

But this will keep

/usr/local/citadel/keys

and

/usr/local/webcit/keys

in sync with /etc/letsencrypt/live/mydomain.org

Hi, Citadel on my raspberry works very well, but there is a little problem ... it add the sender's address to the recipient's,  how can this be solved ?

Hi there when trying to use the easy installer on a Pi 4B, I got the following abort error:

hostinfo               =
/bin/universe          =
/usr/bin/arch -k       =
/bin/arch              =
/usr/bin/oslevel       =
/usr/convex/getsysinfo =

UNAME_MACHINE = aarch64
UNAME_RELEASE = 5.4.83-v8+
UNAME_SYSTEM  = Linux
UNAME_VERSION = #1379 SMP PREEMPT Mon Dec 14 13:15:14 GMT 2020
configure: error: cannot guess build type; you must specify one
 Citadel Easy Install is aborting.
 The last few lines above this message may indicate what went wrong.
 Linux Debian 10.7( 5.4.83-v8+ aarch64)

I'd be grateful if you will advise how to proceed.

Paul

Hello Paul,

Most likely 'config.guess' and 'config.sub' that are used by easy install are too old to guess your particular system.
I had the same problem and I mentioned that here in the forum hoping that any developer would read it and decide to renew these files.
But this didn't take place in the past, maybe it will in the future. --> Dear developers, if one of you would read my post, I would be glad to talk to you. Please unhide and say hello to us :-)

In the meantime let me talk about your problem. I assume you have downloaded 'install' from 'http://easyinstall.citadel.org', renamed it to 'install.sh', gave 'install.sh' execution rights and
run 'install.sh' and after a while the installation process stopped with the error message you have posted.

Well, when 'install.sh' runs it downloads some archives from 'http://easyinstall.citadel.org' which contain all files that are necessary for the installation process. And in some of those archives
you should replace 'config.guess' and 'config.sub' in order to solve your problem.

So please follow the instructions bellow:
- Download the actual 'config.guess' and 'config.sub' from
  'https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/config.git/plain/config.guess' and
  'https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/config.git/plain/config.sub', respectively.
- Download 'libcitadel-easyinstall.tar.gz', 'citadel-easyinstall.tar.gz' and 'webcit-easyinstall.tar.gz' from 'http://easyinstall.citadel.org'.
- Unpack 'libcitadel-easyinstall.tar.gz', 'citadel-easyinstall.tar.gz' and 'webcit-easyinstall.tar.gz' to 'libcitadel', 'citadel' and 'webcit'.
- Replace 'config.guess' and 'config.sub' in 'libcitadel', 'citadel' and 'webcit'. You will find 'config.guess' and 'config.sub' directly bellow 'citadel' and 'webcit' but in 'libcitadel' bellow the subdirectory 'conftools'.
- Pack 'libcitadel', 'citadel' and 'webcit' to 'libcitadel-easyinstall.tar.gz', 'citadel-easyinstall.tar.gz' and 'webcit-easyinstall.tar.gz'.

Now you should persuade 'install.sh' to use your modified archives instead of downloading them from 'http://easyinstall.citadel.org'. Therefore please following the instructions bellow:

a) Load 'install.sh' by an editor of your choice.

b) -Search for
 
    ########################################################################
    # Install libcitadel
    ########################################################################'

   -Look sixteen rows bellow for the following string:

    FILENAME=$LIBCITADEL_SOURCE; download_this

   -Assuming your modified 'libcitadel-easyinstall.tar.gz' resides in /root/citadel you should replace the string from above by

    FILENAME=$LIBCITADEL_SOURCE; cp /root/citadel/$FILENAME . # download_this

c) -Search for
    
    ########################################################################
    # Install Citadel Server
    ########################################################################

   -Look thiry rows bellow for the following string:
    
    FILENAME=$CITADEL_SOURCE; download_this

   -Assuming your modified 'citadel-easyinstall.tar.gz' resides in /root/citadel you should replace the string from above by

    FILENAME=$CITADEL_SOURCE; cp /root/citadel/$FILENAME . # download_this

d) -Search for

    ########################################################################
    # Install WebCit
    ########################################################################

   -Look twenty rows bellow for the following string:
    
    FILENAME=$WEBCIT_SOURCE; download_this

   -Assuming your modified 'webcit-easyinstall.tar.gz' resides in /root/citadel you should replace the string from above by

    FILENAME=$WEBCIT_SOURCE; cp /root/citadel/$FILENAME . # download_this
    
When you performe all these steps from above I would assume that the installation process will then run smootly for you, at least it will not stop anymore due to old 'config.guess' and 'config.sub' files.

Good luck and have fun

Markus

Fri Jan 22 2021 13:43:02 EST from nibles0522 Subject: Easy Installer on Raspberry Pi 4B

Hi there when trying to use the easy installer on a Pi 4B, I got the following abort error:

hostinfo               =
/bin/universe          =
/usr/bin/arch -k       =
/bin/arch              =
/usr/bin/oslevel       =
/usr/convex/getsysinfo =

UNAME_MACHINE = aarch64
UNAME_RELEASE = 5.4.83-v8+
UNAME_SYSTEM  = Linux
UNAME_VERSION = #1379 SMP PREEMPT Mon Dec 14 13:15:14 GMT 2020
configure: error: cannot guess build type; you must specify one
 Citadel Easy Install is aborting.
 The last few lines above this message may indicate what went wrong.
 Linux Debian 10.7( 5.4.83-v8+ aarch64)

I'd be grateful if you will advise how to proceed.

Paul

Dear developers and other knowing people here,

I inted to configure an accont of my citadel system in such a way that it fetches emails from a pop3 account of a different mailing system.

Therefore I did the following with webcit:

a) I went to 'rooms' and chose 'Mail (inbox)'.

b) I went to 'Advanced', then to 'edit or delete this room' and finaly to 'remote retrieval'.

c) Then I add 'remote host', 'user name', 'password', 'keep messages on server' and 'interval' of the pop3 account that I would fetch emails from and store them in 'Mail (inbox)' of the account of my citadel system.

Now that I have observed the behaviour of my citadel system for a while I can report that it works, but only partly. That means some mails get downloaded, some not. Why is that? Is the fetch process faulty or are there other explanations for that behavior?

I would be glad to here from you. Any advice is welcome.

Regards

Markus

Hi there Markus, many thanks for your very detailed response. I will give it a go and report back. It kind of takes the Easy out of Easy Installer though doesn't it!

Paul

Hi Markus,

I thinks Citadel has been successfully installed following your instructions, for which, thank you very much! I say, I think, because there were quite a few warning messages about truncations and the like, but I did get a successful completion message in the end.

I'm now trying to muddle my way through the documentation. This is my first attempt at any kind of mail server so wish me luck!

Thanks again.

Paul

Dear readers,

is this the right room to talk to citadel developers? If not, which room is best?

Regards,

Markus

Markus, you're looking for the Citadel Development room..[look to the left]

But have no fear, your issue about config.guess has already been logged and noted...

It's not for lack of caring.. just too few of us, and lot is going on...

We will ultimately get to the problem.

Continue to do whatever you can to document and communicate.

Thanks!

Wed Jan 27 2021 04:36:02 PM EST from markus Subject: Looking for citadel developers.

Dear readers,

 

is this the right room to talk to citadel developers? If not, which room is best?

 

Regards,

 

Markus

Hmm, I did the easy install on my RPI 4B. it fired right up, no warnings.

It doesn't bind to the proper ports tho, SMTP, IMAP, POP3. probably a root user install issue.  I may reinstall it.

wget -q -O - http://easyinstall.citadel.org/install | bash

Mon Jan 25 2021 08:15:07 EST from nibles0522 Subject: Re: Easy Installer on Raspberry Pi 4B

Hi Markus,

I thinks Citadel has been successfully installed following your instructions, for which, thank you very much! I say, I think, because there were quite a few warning messages about truncations and the like, but I did get a successful completion message in the end.

I'm now trying to muddle my way through the documentation. This is my first attempt at any kind of mail server so wish me luck!

Thanks again.

Paul

Raspian 64bit (aarch64) oder 32bit?

Thu Jan 28 2021 01:40:21 EST from test2 Subject: Re: Easy Installer on Raspberry Pi 4B

Hmm, I did the easy install on my RPI 4B. it fired right up, no warnings.

It doesn't bind to the proper ports tho, SMTP, IMAP, POP3. probably a root user install issue.  I may reinstall it.

wget -q -O - http://easyinstall.citadel.org/install | bash

Mon Jan 25 2021 08:15:07 EST from nibles0522 Subject: Re: Easy Installer on Raspberry Pi 4B

Hi Markus,

I thinks Citadel has been successfully installed following your instructions, for which, thank you very much! I say, I think, because there were quite a few warning messages about truncations and the like, but I did get a successful completion message in the end.

I'm now trying to muddle my way through the documentation. This is my first attempt at any kind of mail server so wish me luck!

Thanks again.

Paul