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[#] Sun Jul 05 2020 05:46:06 EDT from BenM @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Correct place to set e-mail address aliases for users via webit?

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Sorry, I am still a little confused. I was just referring to the options displayed under 'Administration --> Add, change, delete user accounts', beneath the list of users when logged in as the administrator.

The 'Edit configuration' option lets me set a password and access level for the user selected from the list, but there is also a box labelled 'Internet e-mail aliases' on that screen. Are you saying that this box refers to the current user (the admin), not the user selected from the list?

Thanks,

Ben

 

Fri Jul 03 2020 18:51:25 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Correct place to set e-mail address aliases for users via webit?
I am wondering what is the difference between 'Edit configuration -> Internet

e-mail aliases' and 'Edit address book entry -> Internet e-mail aliases'?


"Edit address book entry --> Internet e-mail aliases" is an administrator command to edit the Internet email addresses of any user on your system.

"Edit configuration --> Internet e-mail aliases" is a regular user level command to edit YOUR addresses.

 



[#] Sun Jul 05 2020 15:53:56 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Correct place to set e-mail address aliases for users via webit?

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The 'Edit configuration' option lets me set a password and access level
for
the user selected from the list, but there is also a box labelled 'Internet

e-mail aliases' on that screen. Are you saying that this box refers to the

current user (the admin), not the user selected from the list?

Ok, I see where the confusion is, and I think we'll have to do something about it.

The following two screens DO NOT edit your email addresses on the Citadel Server:

* Advanced --> Update your contact information
* Administration --> Add, change, delete user accounts --> Edit address book entry

Those screens edit your vCard, which is just contact information.

To edit the addresses at which a user can actually receive mail from the Internet, use:

* Administration --> Add, change, delete user accounts --> Edit configuration
Then you can change the "Primary Internet e-mail address" and "Internet e-mail aliases" (as many as will fit, separated by commas)

My previous answer was not exactly correct. Sorry about that. These screens are a bit confusing and we will find a way to fix that.

[#] Sun Jul 05 2020 16:48:36 EDT from bgerum2 @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: sieve2_license error

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This sounds good to me. I really thougt about doing more hacking to the script (I already made it install the dependencies on openSUSE) but I was setting up a lubuntu vm on my server for the sole purpose of running citadel on it ...

Do you have a guess when a sieve-free beta will be available?

 

Fri Jul 03 2020 18:53:58 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored Subject: Re: sieve2_license error
Any way I can make easyinstall ignore the "checking for
sieve2_license in -lsieve... no" error and continue because it lloks
like libsieve is properly installed, just not the license file?

I'm not sure why the build would fail there, but one thing you can do is download the Easy Install script and the libSieve tarball and try to hack the script yourself. Not the answer you were probably looking for, but ---

If you've read a couple of messages above, you'll know that we've decided to abandon libSieve, because it's becoming old and problematic. Hopefully this will take care of your issue soon.

 



[#] Mon Jul 06 2020 10:00:24 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: sieve2_license error

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Do you have a guess when a sieve-free beta will be available?

This effort is front and center, but I wouldn't hold off on a new install while waiting for it.

Remember that if you set up your Citadel system using Easy Install, your database can simply be copied over to another system without exporting it first. Easy Install will also be able to export to a future Dockerized version.

[#] Mon Jul 06 2020 12:35:18 EDT from "s3cr3to" <s3cr3to@uncensored.citadel.org> to IGnatius T Foobar <ajc@citadel.org>,Citadel_Support <room_Citadel_Support@uncensored.citadel.org>

Subject: Re: Support for custom Sieve scripts to be discontinued in the nextrelease

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I'm waiting for the Docker version; but maybe after this change, I could
set up a test server and see if the migration by copying the database
will work in our case.

I use to write sieve scripts (with some issues), but I can bite the
bullet. If as you said: The option "Filter it according to rules
selected below" in "Advanced | View/edit server-side mail filters" for
each user, will still work.

Thank you!


On 7/3/20 4:49 PM, IGnatius T Foobar wrote:

This is an important announcement that will hopefully have very little effect.


OWe've decided to discontinue our use of the "Sieve" inbox filtering language
in Citadel. This is being done for compatibility reasons -- no one is maintaining
the library that parses it, and it is becoming problematic in builds on various
platforms.

Note that this does NOT mean we're discontinuing the inbox filters. We're
just removing the ability for users to write their own Sieve scripts, which
hopefully is a very rare practice.

** If you are using "inbox rules" in WebCit, your rules will be automatically
upgraded to the new system. **

[#] Mon Jul 06 2020 13:21:46 EDT from david @ Uncensored

Subject: 'smart host'

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Hi this is my first post please go easy on me!

I have set up citadel on my home raspberry pi to use as an email server

 As I dont have a static IP, the emails I send are being marked as spam. I understand if I go through my ISPs SMTP as a relay, this should avoid being marked as spam.

Am I right in saying I need to enter the settings into the smart hosts section? 

What would an example format be? I have BT internet (UK) and their mail server is mail.btinternet.com

 

Thanks



[#] Mon Jul 06 2020 13:30:01 EDT from warbaby @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: 'smart host'

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  • From WebCit, select Administration –> Domain names and Internet mail configuration –> Smart hosts
  • From the text client, select .<A>dmin <S>ystem configuration <I>nternet, and add a smart host.

You can specify any valid SMTP URI. At the very least, you must specify a host name, but if you need to add a port number, username and password, or SMTPS instead of SMTP, these options are all accepted. The full URI syntax is:

 [smtp[s]://][username:password@]host[:port]

See this page in Cache

 

Mon Jul 06 2020 01:21:46 PM EDT from david @ Uncensored Subject: 'smart host'

Hi this is my first post please go easy on me!

I have set up citadel on my home raspberry pi to use as an email server

 As I dont have a static IP, the emails I send are being marked as spam. I understand if I go through my ISPs SMTP as a relay, this should avoid being marked as spam.

Am I right in saying I need to enter the settings into the smart hosts section? 

What would an example format be? I have BT internet (UK) and their mail server is mail.btinternet.com

 

Thanks



 



[#] Mon Jul 06 2020 14:23:49 EDT from david @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: 'smart host'

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Thanks  a lot for that, I did see that, but couldnt get it to work, I assume i dont include the [ ] ?

Mon Jul 06 2020 13:30:01 EDT from warbaby @ Uncensored Subject: Re: 'smart host'

 

  • From WebCit, select Administration –> Domain names and Internet mail configuration –> Smart hosts
  • From the text client, select .<A>dmin <S>ystem configuration <I>nternet, and add a smart host.

You can specify any valid SMTP URI. At the very least, you must specify a host name, but if you need to add a port number, username and password, or SMTPS instead of SMTP, these options are all accepted. The full URI syntax is:

 [smtp[s]://][username:password@]host[:port]

See this page in Cache

 

Mon Jul 06 2020 01:21:46 PM EDT from david @ Uncensored Subject: 'smart host'

Hi this is my first post please go easy on me!

I have set up citadel on my home raspberry pi to use as an email server

 As I dont have a static IP, the emails I send are being marked as spam. I understand if I go through my ISPs SMTP as a relay, this should avoid being marked as spam.

Am I right in saying I need to enter the settings into the smart hosts section? 

What would an example format be? I have BT internet (UK) and their mail server is mail.btinternet.com

 

Thanks



 



 



[#] Mon Jul 06 2020 15:24:10 EDT from david @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: 'smart host'

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Brilliant it works now thanks so much for your help



[#] Mon Jul 06 2020 15:25:59 EDT from david @ Uncensored

Subject: Changing the address of webcitadel

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Ok, im on a  roll after sorting out my relay server, thanks!

Is it possible to change the log in address for the citadel web log in page? During my install I seem to have set it up as the main page of the website / ipaddress

 

 

Can i change it to <mydonmainname.com>/mail for example?

 

Thanks, David



[#] Mon Jul 06 2020 15:32:41 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Correct place to set e-mail address aliases for users via webit?

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My previous answer was not exactly correct. Sorry about that. These

screens are a bit confusing and we will find a way to fix that.

For those of you still interested -- there is a new version of WebCit available (just run Easy Install again and you'll get the new version) which removes the "e-mail addresses" inputs in places where it has no effect, such as the "edit your contact information" and "edit address book entry" screens. Email address input boxes will continue to appear when you are editing the contacts in your *own* address book.

[#] Mon Jul 06 2020 15:35:21 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Changing the address of webcitadel

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Is it possible to change the log in address for the citadel web log
in page? During my install I seem to have set it up as the main page
of the website / ipaddress

At the present time this is not possible. A future version is being built that will operate this way by default, but it is quite some time away.

As a workaround, you can do one of the following two things:

1. Run the Citadel site on another port
2. Run the Citadel site on another port internally, and then configure your web server to proxy to it when it detects the name of the site (for example mail.example.com instead of www.example.com).

[#] Tue Jul 07 2020 04:51:18 EDT from Marius @ Uncensored

Subject: Upgrade to the newest version?

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Hi

I easy-installed a Citadel Standalone Mailserver three years ago. It's still working finde but maybe - for security or feature reasons - I should go for the newest code?

How do I patch the Citadel Server to the todays version of the Code? Can I check my version somewhere? (I am a simple User, not a coder :) )

 

regards,

Marius



[#] Tue Jul 07 2020 05:28:34 EDT from Marius @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Upgrade to the newest version?

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I have found my version: 911

Tue Jul 07 2020 04:51:18 EDT from Marius @ Uncensored Subject: Upgrade to the newest version?

Hi

I easy-installed a Citadel Standalone Mailserver three years ago. It's still working finde but maybe - for security or feature reasons - I should go for the newest code?

How do I patch the Citadel Server to the todays version of the Code? Can I check my version somewhere? (I am a simple User, not a coder :) )

 

regards,

Marius



 



[#] Tue Jul 07 2020 09:24:29 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Upgrade to the newest version?

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I easy-installed a Citadel Standalone Mailserver three years ago.
It's still working finde but maybe - for security or feature reasons
- I should go for the newest code?

It's up to you, but if you want the latest version it's easy to upgrade:

1. Shut down Citadel and TAKE A FULL BACKUP

2. Run the Easy Install script again.

That's all there is to it. The script will detect your existing installation and upgrade it.

[#] Tue Jul 07 2020 15:45:19 EDT from lgc @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Citserver with LDAP authentication does not start

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Having the same issue on my system:

1. Fresh install of Debian 10.4, up-to-date
2. Running the easyinstall from wget -q -O - http://easyinstall.citadel.org/install | bash
3. Only option change is to choose #2 for an LDAP server, with my known-working settings

I get the same error in my events - "Your system is configured for LDAP authentication, but you are running a server built without OpenLDAP support."

Verified that the packages for ldap (installed with allowing the prerequisites to be installed)

ii  libldap-2.4-2:amd64           2.4.47+dfsg-3+deb10u2        amd64        OpenLDAP libraries
ii  libldap-common                2.4.47+dfsg-3+deb10u2        all          OpenLDAP common files for libraries
ii  libldap2-dev:amd64            2.4.47+dfsg-3+deb10u2        amd64        OpenLDAP development libraries



[#] Tue Jul 07 2020 15:59:23 EDT from warbaby @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Citserver with LDAP authentication does not start

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You might try to turn  on Bash's trace feature, maybe you can see the problem. 

a) Download easyinstall locally..

wget -O easyinstall.sh http://easyinstall.citadel.org/install

b) chmod +x  easyinstall.sh

c) edit top line to

#!/bin/bash -x

then

./easyinstall.sh

or use

bash -x ./easyinstall.sh

to see what it is looking for when it dies..

 

 

 

 

Tue Jul 07 2020 03:45:19 PM EDT from lgc @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Citserver with LDAP authentication does not start

Having the same issue on my system:

1. Fresh install of Debian 10.4, up-to-date
2. Running the easyinstall from wget -q -O - http://easyinstall.citadel.org/install | bash
3. Only option change is to choose #2 for an LDAP server, with my known-working settings

I get the same error in my events - "Your system is configured for LDAP authentication, but you are running a server built without OpenLDAP support."

Verified that the packages for ldap (installed with allowing the prerequisites to be installed)

ii  libldap-2.4-2:amd64           2.4.47+dfsg-3+deb10u2        amd64        OpenLDAP libraries
ii  libldap-common                2.4.47+dfsg-3+deb10u2        all          OpenLDAP common files for libraries
ii  libldap2-dev:amd64            2.4.47+dfsg-3+deb10u2        amd64        OpenLDAP development libraries



 



[#] Tue Jul 07 2020 17:17:31 EDT from lgc @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Citserver with LDAP authentication does not start

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Having the same issue on my system:

1. Fresh install of Debian 10.4, up-to-date
2. Running the easyinstall from wget -q -O - http://easyinstall.citadel.org/install | bash
3. Only option change is to choose #2 for an LDAP server, with my known-working settings

I get the same error in my events - "Your system is configured for LDAP authentication, but you are running a server built without OpenLDAP support."

Verified that the packages for ldap (installed with allowing the prerequisites to be installed)

ii  libldap-2.4-2:amd64           2.4.47+dfsg-3+deb10u2        amd64        OpenLDAP libraries
ii  libldap-common                2.4.47+dfsg-3+deb10u2        all          OpenLDAP common files for libraries
ii  libldap2-dev:amd64            2.4.47+dfsg-3+deb10u2        amd64        OpenLDAP development libraries



[#] Tue Jul 07 2020 17:36:57 EDT from lgc @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Citserver with LDAP authentication does not start

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Gave that a shot (on a new, fresh install)

Same error, but the installer runs just as verbose as it normally does in that phase, I now get the following:

 

       Error 

Setup failed to restart Citadel server.  Please restart it manually.

Press return to continue...

+ die
+ show_alert Citadel Easy Install is aborting.
+ echo '' Citadel Easy Install is aborting. ''
Citadel Easy Install is aborting.
+ show_alert The last few lines above this message may indicate what went wrong.
+ echo '' The last few lines above this message may indicate what went wrong. ''
The last few lines above this message may indicate what went wrong.
+ show_alert Linux Debian '10.4(' 4.19.0-9-amd64 'x86_64)'
+ echo '' Linux Debian '10.4(' 4.19.0-9-amd64 'x86_64)' ''
Linux Debian 10.4( 4.19.0-9-amd64 x86_64)
+ cd /root
+ rm -fr /tmp/citadel-build.406
+ exit 1

 

Anything else I can check?

Tue Jul 07 2020 15:59:23 EDT from warbaby @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Citserver with LDAP authentication does not start

You might try to turn  on Bash's trace feature, maybe you can see the problem. 

a) Download easyinstall locally..

wget -O easyinstall.sh http://easyinstall.citadel.org/install

b) chmod +x  easyinstall.sh

c) edit top line to

#!/bin/bash -x

then

./easyinstall.sh

or use

bash -x ./easyinstall.sh

to see what it is looking for when it dies..

 

 

 

 

Tue Jul 07 2020 03:45:19 PM EDT from lgc @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Citserver with LDAP authentication does not start

Having the same issue on my system:

1. Fresh install of Debian 10.4, up-to-date
2. Running the easyinstall from wget -q -O - http://easyinstall.citadel.org/install | bash
3. Only option change is to choose #2 for an LDAP server, with my known-working settings

I get the same error in my events - "Your system is configured for LDAP authentication, but you are running a server built without OpenLDAP support."

Verified that the packages for ldap (installed with allowing the prerequisites to be installed)

ii  libldap-2.4-2:amd64           2.4.47+dfsg-3+deb10u2        amd64        OpenLDAP libraries
ii  libldap-common                2.4.47+dfsg-3+deb10u2        all          OpenLDAP common files for libraries
ii  libldap2-dev:amd64            2.4.47+dfsg-3+deb10u2        amd64        OpenLDAP development libraries



 



 



[#] Tue Jul 07 2020 19:14:23 EDT from warbaby @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Citserver with LDAP authentication does not start

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I've got a Debian 10 box here, I'm taking a look.

Tue Jul 07 2020 05:36:57 PM EDT from lgc @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Citserver with LDAP authentication does not start

Gave that a shot (on a new, fresh install)

Same error, but the installer runs just as verbose as it normally does in that phase, I now get the following:

 

       Error 

Setup failed to restart Citadel server.  Please restart it manually.

Press return to continue...

+ die
+ show_alert Citadel Easy Install is aborting.
+ echo '' Citadel Easy Install is aborting. ''
Citadel Easy Install is aborting.
+ show_alert The last few lines above this message may indicate what went wrong.
+ echo '' The last few lines above this message may indicate what went wrong. ''
The last few lines above this message may indicate what went wrong.
+ show_alert Linux Debian '10.4(' 4.19.0-9-amd64 'x86_64)'
+ echo '' Linux Debian '10.4(' 4.19.0-9-amd64 'x86_64)' ''
Linux Debian 10.4( 4.19.0-9-amd64 x86_64)
+ cd /root
+ rm -fr /tmp/citadel-build.406
+ exit 1

 

Anything else I can check?

Tue Jul 07 2020 15:59:23 EDT from warbaby @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Citserver with LDAP authentication does not start

You might try to turn  on Bash's trace feature, maybe you can see the problem. 

a) Download easyinstall locally..

wget -O easyinstall.sh http://easyinstall.citadel.org/install

b) chmod +x  easyinstall.sh

c) edit top line to

#!/bin/bash -x

then

./easyinstall.sh

or use

bash -x ./easyinstall.sh

to see what it is looking for when it dies..

 

 

 

 

Tue Jul 07 2020 03:45:19 PM EDT from lgc @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Citserver with LDAP authentication does not start

Having the same issue on my system:

1. Fresh install of Debian 10.4, up-to-date
2. Running the easyinstall from wget -q -O - http://easyinstall.citadel.org/install | bash
3. Only option change is to choose #2 for an LDAP server, with my known-working settings

I get the same error in my events - "Your system is configured for LDAP authentication, but you are running a server built without OpenLDAP support."

Verified that the packages for ldap (installed with allowing the prerequisites to be installed)

ii  libldap-2.4-2:amd64           2.4.47+dfsg-3+deb10u2        amd64        OpenLDAP libraries
ii  libldap-common                2.4.47+dfsg-3+deb10u2        all          OpenLDAP common files for libraries
ii  libldap2-dev:amd64            2.4.47+dfsg-3+deb10u2        amd64        OpenLDAP development libraries



 



 



 



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