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Subject: Re: Is sendcommand "CULL" no longer supported?
OK from doing a comparison with 917 I can see that "CULL" has been removed as a manual command from modules/ctdlproto/serv_syscmds.c. And cdb_cull_logs() in database.c doesn't do anything now. But why? Now my server is just filling up with log files... There is a comment in database.c in 917 implying that Berkeley DB should be deleting the unneeded logs itself in future but that doesn't seem to be happening. Anyone got any ideas?
Sat Jun 20 2020 15:09:14 EDT from BenM @ Uncensored Subject: Is sendcommand "CULL" no longer supported?Hi,
I have upgraded to Citadel 929 Easy Install from 917 installed from .debs, due to upgrading the server to Debian Buster.
Up until now I have been using the "hot" backup method with a script that issues /usr/local/citadel/sendcommand "CULL" after the backup is complete. However, after the upgrade the log files are no longer being deleted.
root@myserver:~# /usr/local/citadel/sendcommand "CULL"
sendcommand: started (pid=25745) connecting to Citadel server at /usr/local/citadel/citadel-admin.socket
200 helium Citadel server ADMIN CONNECTION ready.
CULL
530 Unrecognized or unsupported command.
Can I just delete logs older than a certain date instead? Or did "CULL" have some other effect too?
Thanks,
Ben
I performed an easy install, but most the files from the documented file list do not appear.
I configured a room with the appropriate alias, but the server returns all email to that alias as undeliverable, user not found.
I manually created network/mail.alias, and restarted, but still no joy.
Any thoughts?
I manually created network/mail.alias, and restarted, but still no
mail.aliases is not supported in any modern version of Citadel. To add an alias for a user, edit the user's account and add more email addresses to the account.
Subject: Re: Is sendcommand "CULL" no longer supported?
OK from doing a comparison with 917 I can see that "CULL" has been removedas
a manual command from modules/ctdlproto/serv_syscmds.c. And cdb_cull_logs()
The CULL command has been deprecated for some time. You can now use the built-in configuration directive "automatically delete committed database logs". This is the default behavior, so unless you've changed it, you're already ok here.
If you are working in an environment where you want to back up all of the logs before deleting them, you can use the Berkeley DB utilities to accomplish the same thing. "db_archive -d" will do the same thing that the CULL server command used to do.
Documentation for the Berkeley DB utilities: [ https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E17275_01/html/api_reference/C/utilities.html ]
Subject: Re: Citadel unresponsive due to corrupted message
Jun 22 23:25:38 h2884472 citserver[1677]: msgbase: message 0 appears
to be corrupted
There is no "message 0" anywhere on a Citadel system. If you get that message it means that something fed a null message number into something else, no need to worry about that.
That didn't work either.
Sun Jun 28 2020 11:42:53 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Support request.I manually created network/mail.alias, and restarted, but still no
mail.aliases is not supported in any modern version of Citadel. To add an alias for a user, edit the user's account and add more email addresses to the account.
Sorry, I tried this, well for the room. 
Subject: Re: Support request.
I create a room called "Sales".
In Thunderbird, with IMAP, using my account and subscribed to "Sales
floor", I get this structure:
My_account
|-Inbox
|-Sales_Floor
+|-info
|-kind1
|-kind2
|-kind3
Then I can send/read mails to/from room_info@, room_kind2@... and so on
Even here I can send mail to this "room.":
room_Citadel_Support@uncensored.citadel.org
So, you could e-mail to:
room_info@youdomain.com
Regards
On 6/29/20 1:01 PM, skenigma wrote:
Sun Jun 28 2020 11:42:53 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored
Subject: Re: Support request.
I manually created network/mail.alias, and restarted, but still no
mail.aliases is not supported in any modern version of Citadel. To
add an alias for a user, edit the user's account and add more email
addresses to the account.
Sorry, I tried this, well for the room.
I can get mail at room_info@domain but I was looking to setup a mailing list that when someone mails info@domain it sends that message to several users (a shared mailbox works in a pinch, but not preferred)
Tue Jun 30 2020 12:12:44 EDT from "s3cr3to" <s3cr3to@uncensored.citadel.org> Subject: Re: Support request.Maybe this can works for you too.
So, you could e-mail to:
room_info@youdomain.com
Regards
On 6/29/20 1:01 PM, skenigma wrote:
Subject: Re: Support request.
account and using sieve filtering rules, then it redirected the emails
to the accounts that require it.
But there's a problem:
They don't always run the sieve rule (maybe it's just a problem in my
old version)
Maybe with this one the sieve rule works better, creating:
1) the "info@domain" account
2) the sieve rule that always forwards mail to room_info
3) the "room_info" to which your users have access (subscriptions)
So your users will see the emails in room_info and will see the email as
if it was sent to them.
Regards
On 6/30/20 3:14 PM, skenigma wrote:
I can get mail at room_info@domain but I was looking to setup a
mailing list that when someone mails info@domain it sends that message
to several users (a shared mailbox works in a pinch, but not preferred)
Tue Jun 30 2020 12:12:44 EDT from "s3cr3to"
<s3cr3to@uncensored.citadel.org> Subject: Re: Support request.
Maybe this can works for you too.
So, you could e-mail to:
room_info@youdomain.com
Regards
On 6/29/20 1:01 PM, skenigma wrote:
Subject: Re: Is sendcommand "CULL" no longer supported?
Thanks - thanks 'db_archive -d' should do the trick.
Sun Jun 28 2020 11:47:07 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Is sendcommand "CULL" no longer supported?OK from doing a comparison with 917 I can see that "CULL" has been removedas
a manual command from modules/ctdlproto/serv_syscmds.c. And cdb_cull_logs()
The CULL command has been deprecated for some time. You can now use the built-in configuration directive "automatically delete committed database logs". This is the default behavior, so unless you've changed it, you're already ok here.
If you are working in an environment where you want to back up all of the logs before deleting them, you can use the Berkeley DB utilities to accomplish the same thing. "db_archive -d" will do the same thing that the CULL server command used to do.
Documentation for the Berkeley DB utilities: [ https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E17275_01/html/api_reference/C/utilities.html ]
Subject: Correct place to set e-mail address aliases for users via webit?
Hi,
I am wondering what is the difference between 'Edit configuration -> Internet e-mail aliases' and 'Edit address book entry -> Internet e-mail aliases'? Both seem to work - at least some of the time - but if I set an alias in one place it is not reflected in the other.
IIRC 'Edit configuration -> Internet e-mail aliases' didn't exist in previous releases so most of my users have aliases set under 'Edit address book entry'.
Ben
Subject: Support for custom Sieve scripts to be discontinued in the next release
This is an important announcement that will hopefully have very little effect.
OWe've decided to discontinue our use of the "Sieve" inbox filtering language in Citadel. This is being done for compatibility reasons -- no one is maintaining the library that parses it, and it is becoming problematic in builds on various platforms.
Note that this does NOT mean we're discontinuing the inbox filters. We're just removing the ability for users to write their own Sieve scripts, which hopefully is a very rare practice.
** If you are using "inbox rules" in WebCit, your rules will be automatically upgraded to the new system. **
Subject: Re: Correct place to set e-mail address aliases for users via webit?
I am wondering what is the difference between 'Edit configuration -> Internet
e-mail aliases' and 'Edit address book entry -> Internet e-mail aliases'?
"Edit address book entry --> Internet e-mail aliases" is an administrator command to edit the Internet email addresses of any user on your system.
"Edit configuration --> Internet e-mail aliases" is a regular user level command to edit YOUR addresses.
Subject: Re: sieve2_license error
Any way I can make easyinstall ignore the "checking for
sieve2_license in -lsieve... no" error and continue because it lloks
like libsieve is properly installed, just not the license file?
I'm not sure why the build would fail there, but one thing you can do is download the Easy Install script and the libSieve tarball and try to hack the script yourself. Not the answer you were probably looking for, but ---
If you've read a couple of messages above, you'll know that we've decided to abandon libSieve, because it's becoming old and problematic. Hopefully this will take care of your issue soon.
Subject: unable to log in to uncensored with my username
Hi IG... I am unable to log into the board with bennabiy because I think back in the day I used AIM auth, and it does not seem to be working anymore. Any way to recover that account?
Subject: Re: Correct place to set e-mail address aliases for users via webit?
Sorry, I am still a little confused. I was just referring to the options displayed under 'Administration --> Add, change, delete user accounts', beneath the list of users when logged in as the administrator.
The 'Edit configuration' option lets me set a password and access level for the user selected from the list, but there is also a box labelled 'Internet e-mail aliases' on that screen. Are you saying that this box refers to the current user (the admin), not the user selected from the list?
Thanks,
Ben
Fri Jul 03 2020 18:51:25 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Correct place to set e-mail address aliases for users via webit?I am wondering what is the difference between 'Edit configuration -> Internet
e-mail aliases' and 'Edit address book entry -> Internet e-mail aliases'?
"Edit address book entry --> Internet e-mail aliases" is an administrator command to edit the Internet email addresses of any user on your system.
"Edit configuration --> Internet e-mail aliases" is a regular user level command to edit YOUR addresses.
Subject: Re: Correct place to set e-mail address aliases for users via webit?
The 'Edit configuration' option lets me set a password and access levelfor
the user selected from the list, but there is also a box labelled 'Internet
e-mail aliases' on that screen. Are you saying that this box refers to the
current user (the admin), not the user selected from the list?
Ok, I see where the confusion is, and I think we'll have to do something about it.
The following two screens DO NOT edit your email addresses on the Citadel Server:
* Advanced --> Update your contact information
* Administration --> Add, change, delete user accounts --> Edit address book entry
Those screens edit your vCard, which is just contact information.
To edit the addresses at which a user can actually receive mail from the Internet, use:
* Administration --> Add, change, delete user accounts --> Edit configuration
Then you can change the "Primary Internet e-mail address" and "Internet e-mail aliases" (as many as will fit, separated by commas)
My previous answer was not exactly correct. Sorry about that. These screens are a bit confusing and we will find a way to fix that.
This sounds good to me. I really thougt about doing more hacking to the script (I already made it install the dependencies on openSUSE) but I was setting up a lubuntu vm on my server for the sole purpose of running citadel on it ...
Do you have a guess when a sieve-free beta will be available?
Fri Jul 03 2020 18:53:58 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored Subject: Re: sieve2_license errorAny way I can make easyinstall ignore the "checking for
sieve2_license in -lsieve... no" error and continue because it lloks
like libsieve is properly installed, just not the license file?
I'm not sure why the build would fail there, but one thing you can do is download the Easy Install script and the libSieve tarball and try to hack the script yourself. Not the answer you were probably looking for, but ---
If you've read a couple of messages above, you'll know that we've decided to abandon libSieve, because it's becoming old and problematic. Hopefully this will take care of your issue soon.
Subject: Re: sieve2_license error
Do you have a guess when a sieve-free beta will be available?
This effort is front and center, but I wouldn't hold off on a new install while waiting for it.
Remember that if you set up your Citadel system using Easy Install, your database can simply be copied over to another system without exporting it first. Easy Install will also be able to export to a future Dockerized version.