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[#] Sat Feb 29 2020 19:15:17 EST from kahless01 @ Uncensored

Subject: Restart Now: Services do not restart

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Hi Guys!

I’ve been trying out Citadel on Debian Buster and seems like a great piece of software, however, I have one little issue and I was hoping if someone could help out.

During the ‘Restart Now‘ cycle via the web, the IMAP, SMTP and other related services do not come back online. And I receive the following error via the terminal.

 citserver[465]: extensions: Citadel had trouble on starting up. We couldn't bind all ports you configured to be provided by Citadel Server.#012 This means, Citadel won't be the service provider for a specific service you configured it to.#012#012If you don't want Citadel to provide these services, turn them off in WebCit via: "Admin->System Preferences->Network".#012#012The failed ports and sockets are: extensions: TCP port *:504: (citadel-TCP) ;extensions: TCP port *:993: (IMAPS) ;extensions: TCP port *:465: (SMTPs-MTA) #012#012If you want Citadel to provide you with that functionality, check the output of "netstat -lnp" on Linux, or "netstat -na" on BSD and disable the program that binds these ports.#012#012#012To make both ways actualy take place restart the citserver with "sendcommand down"#012#012The errors returned by the system were:#012failed; failed; failed#012#012You can recheck the above if you follow this faq item:#012http://www.citadel.org/doku.php?id=faq:mastering_your_os:net#netstat

Broadcast message from systemd-journald@nyc-us-mail01 (Sun 2020-03-01 00:04:51 UTC):

citserver[465]: extensions: Citadel had trouble on starting up. We couldn't bind all ports you configured to be provided by Citadel Server.

 This means, Citadel won't be the service provider for a specific service you configured it to.

If you don't want Citadel to provide these services, turn them off in WebCit via: "Admin->System Preferences->Network".

The failed ports and sockets are: extensions: TCP port *:504: (citadel-TCP) ;extensions: TCP port *:993: (IMAPS) ;extensions: TCP port *:465: (SMTPs-MTA) 

If you want Citadel to provide you with that functionality, check the output of "netstat -lnp" on Linux, or "netstat -na" on BSD and disable the program that binds these ports.

To make both ways actualy take place restart the citserver with "sendcommand down"

The errors returned by the system were:

failed; failed; failed

You can recheck the above if you follow this faq item:

http://www.citadel.org/doku.php?id=faq:mastering_your_os:net#netstat

Message from syslogd@nyc-us-mail01 at Mar  1 00:04:51 ...

 citserver[465]: extensions: Startup Problems

Broadcast message from systemd-journald@nyc-us-mail01 (Sun 2020-03-01 00:04:51 UTC):

citserver[465]: extensions: Startup Problems

root@nyc-us-mail01:~# 


It’s noteworthy that during boot the required services start fine, it’s only just after reboot.

Thanks.
 
Kind Regards
 
James
 


[#] Sat Feb 29 2020 21:47:03 EST from kahless01 @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Restart Now: Services do not restart

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Resolved. Solution is as follows:

$ sudo setcap CAP_NET_BIND_SERVICE=+eip /usr/local/citadel/citserver

Thanks.



[#] Mon Mar 02 2020 13:16:51 EST from "Jeremy Morton" <gamept@game-point.net> to room_citadel_support@citadel.org

Subject: How can I unsubscribe?

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I tried unsubscribing from this list, and I'm still getting e-mails
from it. Could an admin please unsubscribe me? Thanks.

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Best regards,
Jeremy Morton (Jez)

[#] Tue Mar 03 2020 17:26:55 EST from "s3cr3to" <s3cr3to@uncensored.citadel.org> to Citadel_Support <room_Citadel_Support@uncensored.citadel.org>

Subject: Re: How can I unsubscribe?

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You need to do it yourself, go to:

https://uncensored.citadel.org/listsub

And write **the email address that you used** to subscribe.

Regards

On 3/2/20 11:16 AM, Jeremy Morton wrote:

I tried unsubscribing from this list, and I'm still getting e-mails from
it.  Could an admin please unsubscribe me?  Thanks.

[#] Sat Mar 07 2020 08:12:22 EST from neobrave @ Uncensored

Subject: DKIM on Citadel

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Hi everyone,

 

 

Here me again quering the community regarding the functionality of DKIM on Citadel. It looks quite simple to me to add the public key to the header of the outgoing mail, however I didn't find any config for is as well as workaround such as outgoing mail filter that allowing scripting.

The only instruction I found in documentation is to use postfix/sendmail or provider's smtp relay and DKIMproxy as smarthost. This however looks very outdated, and I am frankly cannot believe, that DKIM is not supported out of the box, as that it almost a guarantee that all sent emails will land in the recipient spam folder. How do you deal with this situation? Since upon install citmail start to be used instead of the sendmail as standard mta, it is reasonable to assume that there should be similar functionality in regards with DKIM, however I had not much success while looking for the documentation.

Any help on this matter will be very much appreciated.

 

 

 

 

 

 



[#] Sat Mar 07 2020 08:45:24 EST from "Jeremy Morton" <gamept@game-point.net> to room_citadel_support@citadel.org

Subject: Please unsub me

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PLEASE UNSUB ME FROM THIS LIST!!!!

Your unsub form on the website doesnt work so an admin will have to do
it. My email is gamept@game-point.net

Hey, if I start spamming the list you'll have to ban me, right? If
you don't remove me I'm gonna start fucking spamming, fuckers!!!

Yours truly,
- Piss off

[#] Sat Mar 07 2020 10:00:07 EST from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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Somebody wants a few magazine subscriptions...

[#] Sat Mar 07 2020 13:23:26 EST from neobrave @ Uncensored

Subject: STARTTLS

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Hi all,

When I am EHLO the Citadel's 25th port it does not advertise STARTTLS. What is shown when I am doing the same on 587. Other good mail services though advertising STARTTLS also on port 25.

Does anyone has an idea what could be wrong?

 



[#] Sat Mar 07 2020 15:35:22 EST from rleddy @ Uncensored

Subject: nodejs interface to citadel server

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https://github.com/copious-world/node-citadel

 

This is not yet tests. So, I have a slightly older version (a week or two) doing some work on my tiny website.

The current check-in is still full of bugs (as if it was C and was not yet compiled.) But, I thought you might like to know that it is mostly there.

Do you guys know much about ifps?

 



[#] Sat Mar 07 2020 16:22:31 EST from "me" <me@scifidan.com> to room_Citadel_Support@citadel.org

Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] Please unsub me

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Dude, swallow a chill pill and take a deep breath.


On 3/7/20 5:45 AM, Jeremy Morton wrote:


PLEASE UNSUB ME FROM THIS LIST!!!!

Your unsub form on the website doesnt work so an admin will have to do
it.  My email is gamept@game-point.net

Hey, if I start spamming the list you'll have to ban me, right? If you
don't remove me I'm gonna start fucking spamming, fuckers!!!

Yours truly,
- Piss off

[#] Sun Mar 08 2020 10:27:19 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Please unsub me

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2020-03-07 08:45 from Jeremy Morton <gamept@game-point.net> to room_citadel_support@citadel.org

Subject: Please unsub me

PLEASE UNSUB ME FROM THIS LIST!!!!

Your unsub form on the website doesnt work so an admin will have to do

it. My email is gamept@game-point.net

Hey, if I start spamming the list you'll have to ban me, right? If
you don't remove me I'm gonna start fucking spamming, fuckers!!!

Yours truly,
- Piss off


Hello Jeremy Morton, whose email address gamept@game-point.net is now exposed to actual spammers through your posting it.

You may regret having done that.

[#] Mon Mar 09 2020 13:09:29 EDT from IncorrectPassword @ Uncensored

Subject: Not seeing new messages in webcit

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A couple weeks ago, new mail stopped showing up in my webmail. However it is syncing to all devices. I checked my pop settings and it is set to leave messages on the server (and firing up a laptop that had not been on in a while, it got all the new messages as well). Any ideas? I tired restarting the webcit service as well as the whole of the server running citadel.



[#] Tue Mar 10 2020 09:14:28 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Please unsub me

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PLEASE UNSUB ME FROM THIS LIST!!!!

Your unsub form on the website doesnt work so an admin will have to do

it. My email is gamept@game-point.net

So just for fun, I went to the unsubscribe page [ http://uncensored.citadel.org/listsub ] and put in your email address, and selected "Unsubscribe". Then I went into the email queue and clicked the confirmation link on the confirmation email that it sent to you.

Do you know what happened? It unsubscribed you. Actually I don't know why I am writing this message as if you're reading it, because it unsubscribed you.

So for everyone else:
1. Be it hereby resolved, that the list subscribe/unsubscribe page works, and works perfectly
2. Be it hereby resolved, that Jeremy Morton is a moron.

I have no patience for people who can't read simple instructions.

[#] Wed Mar 11 2020 17:03:51 EDT from Falco @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Webcit - File Uploads Corrupted

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Fri Feb 14 2020 09:48:35 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Webcit - File Uploads Corrupted
Falco: thanks for posting the corrupted version of the upload. We'll have a look at it
!

Found anything yet? As I said it's arm64 (aarch64) on ubuntu (19.10) server (64 bit). It's all running on a raspberry pi 4. if you need any more info please ask.
How about switching to github? It'd make managing issues a lot easier, you get version control and outside people can handle the code easier.
Also how about those tooltips (html title attribute) for those settings and options?



[#] Sun Mar 15 2020 10:11:29 EDT from Knocks @ Uncensored

Subject: Failed ports

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Hello, I installed Citadel using the easyinstall script but now I'm having problems with the ports:
The after installing it the installer gives me this output:

The failed ports and sockets are: extensions: TCP port *:504: (citadel-TCP) ;extensions: TCP port *:143: (IMAP) ;extensions: TCP port *:993: (IMAPS) ;extensions: TCP port *:119: (NNTP) ;extensions: TCP port *:563: (NNTPS) ;extensions: TCP port *:110: (POP3) ;extensions: TCP port *:995: (POP3S) ;extensions: TCP port *:25: (SMTP-MTA) ;extensions: TCP port *:465: (SMTPs-MTA) ;extensions: TCP port *:587: (SMTP-MSA)

but if I try using sudo netstat -lnp | grep <port> I get nothing, so that would mean they aren't used.
Any help?



[#] Mon Mar 16 2020 06:27:55 EDT from IncorrectPassword @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Not seeing new messages in webcit

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So I tried doing a search for a sender, and in that view the newer messages were showing, Just not if I do an all messages view sorted by date.


Is there some sort of limit (coded or otherwise) with the number of messages the web view will be able to process and show?



[#] Thu Mar 19 2020 05:24:51 EDT from StonedMind @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Using Let's Encrypt Certificates for TLS based connections

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Hello,

I would like to come back to this topic as I'm still facing those issues. I would like to make my citadel be able to establish/answer STARTTLS based connections (submission port 587 AND smtp port 25) using certificates provided by my ISP (Let's encrypt)

I followed the instructions on the documentations page (http://www.citadel.org/doku.php?id=faq:systemadmin:how_to_install_a_certificate_signed_by_a_recognized_certificate_authority) and I copied the key pair (public + private key) into /etc/ssl/citadel and I renamed them to citadel.cer and citadel.key.

After that I restarted the citadel service using sudo service citadel restart.

However, I was able to get unix machine and to try to establish an TLS connection using openssl, where I could clearly see, that the wrong certificate is used

openssl s_client -connect my-ip-address:587 -starttls smtp
CONNECTED(00000003)
depth=0 C = ZZ, ST = The World, L = My Location, O = Generic certificate, OU = Citadel server, CN = *
verify error:num=18:self signed certificate
verify return:1
depth=0 C = ZZ, ST = The World, L = My Location, O = Generic certificate, OU = Citadel server, CN = *
verify return:1
---
Certificate chain
 0 s:/C=ZZ/ST=The World/L=My Location/O=Generic certificate/OU=Citadel server/CN=*
   i:/C=ZZ/ST=The World/L=My Location/O=Generic certificate/OU=Citadel server/CN=*
---
Server certificate
-----BEGIN CERTIFICATE-----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-----END CERTIFICATE-----
subject=/C=ZZ/ST=The World/L=My Location/O=Generic certificate/OU=Citadel server/CN=*
issuer=/C=ZZ/ST=The World/L=My Location/O=Generic certificate/OU=Citadel server/CN=*
---
No client certificate CA names sent
Peer signing digest: SHA512
Server Temp Key: ECDH, P-256, 256 bits
---
SSL handshake has read 1780 bytes and written 463 bytes
---
New, TLSv1/SSLv3, Cipher is ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384
Server public key is 2048 bit
Secure Renegotiation IS supported
Compression: NONE
Expansion: NONE
No ALPN negotiated
SSL-Session:
    Protocol  : TLSv1.2
    Cipher    : ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384
    Session-ID: 0F53FA4338C40B28B8755C94B3490D2BF6DE3EEB521C8FDC81F37928D89DA671
    Session-ID-ctx:
    Master-Key: C0B01C57B35CC0DF2A9555D3A53A84E1A1113AECD57B46E7D9CBAD1E7BC1FB0A020B6AF14284ED13FF8BC4F0709FA70A
    Key-Arg   : None
    PSK identity: None
    PSK identity hint: None
    SRP username: None
    TLS session ticket lifetime hint: 7200 (seconds)
    TLS session ticket:
    0000 - ab 7f 18 87 9e f9 04 15-ae 5b 3a 98 7a 46 00 92   .........[:.zF..
    0010 - 36 20 18 df b5 2a d8 c4-23 1c 43 f9 db 34 4b f9   6 ...*..#.C..4K.
    0020 - 5a df 0e 74 40 14 3d d2-25 6d 31 27 7f 40 e9 03   Z..t@.=.%m1'.@..
    0030 - 7b 9c 12 85 89 71 8b a9-62 3b 5e 3a 26 2d f4 7d   {....q..b;^:&-.}
    0040 - 89 22 ef c6 14 3b b7 f4-97 9e 11 e8 84 43 d9 0c   ."...;.......C..
    0050 - 98 a5 85 84 81 8d 4c 39-57 05 c2 73 92 3c 6a 45   ......L9W..s.<jE
    0060 - ae c9 68 48 e2 86 76 66-e8 15 9b 75 94 07 5e 4c   ..hH..vf...u..^L
    0070 - f9 c4 02 da f4 bb 14 58-f1 11 14 f4 77 9e 16 7c   .......X....w..|
    0080 - 3b 57 23 32 f8 15 a3 8c-43 0a 07 70 b6 2f 3e ec   ;W#2....C..p./>.
    0090 - b6 5c 48 5b e2 a2 53 18-64 a3 16 05 61 20 59 d4   .\H[..S.d...a Y.

    Start Time: 1584555723
    Timeout   : 300 (sec)
    Verify return code: 18 (self signed certificate)
---
250 8BITMIME

  • How could this happen? I deleted the old "default" certificates from /etc/ssl/citadel, so where do those certificates come from?
  • What's behind the folder /etc/ssl/certs? Are those the trusted CAs?
  • What's the purpose of /etc/ssl/openssl.cnf file?
Beside that, why does citadel not announce STARTTLS after incoming EHLO on port 25?
 
Any help will be appreciated.





[#] Fri Mar 20 2020 15:22:33 EDT from StonedMind @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Mail aliases limited ?

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Sat Feb 15 2020 21:58:03 EST from MAS3 @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Mail aliases limited ?

So i started to do this right away.

Made a test user and copied the alias test1@mydomain.com 50 times (or thought i did).

Then i started to edit the number so that i would end up with aliases test1 to test 50.
But when i was at the number 10, i couldn't add characters anymore.
That field seems limited to 512 characters, and thus limiting the number of aliases after all.
In this test case, it limits the number of aliases to 24.
And they seem to work for this new test user, sent and received an external mail to test23@mydomain.com.

Both users i tried to add aliases to, should have space to add at least 1 alias to the list of 512 characters, but still there's trouble in getting that done.
So there must be something else that's going wrong, and i'm assuming it's me doing something wrong here.

 

 



Hi MAS3,

I'm facing quite the same issues concerning those aliases. I'm not using that many aliases like you do, but nevertheless they disappear totally randomly. As a workaround I'm checking every day whether the aliases have been disappeared or not, which is horrible. Furthermore the documentation seems to be quite poor, just like for other topics in Citadel as well...

Anyway...

Does anybody know in which file should those aliases appear? Sometimes I have the feeling that the Web-GUI of the admin page does not really transmit the changes, only after a service restart of Citadel.

Hope you'll get forward with this. I will try also my very best and as soon as I have a solution I'm going to post this here.

Cheers,

StonedMind

 



[#] Mon Mar 23 2020 17:23:42 EDT from SteinTheRuler @ Uncensored

Subject: Access admin interface from external browser

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How can I access the Citadel admin web interface from an external browser? I've tried to open the port used in the firewall, but without luck.

 

BR,

Stein



[#] Tue Mar 24 2020 16:07:21 EDT from darknetuser @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Access admin interface from external browser

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2020-03-23 17:23 from SteinTheRuler
Subject: Access admin interface from external browser
How can I access the Citadel admin web interface from an external
browser? I've tried to open the port used in the firewall, but
without luck.

First of all, you have to ensure that Webcit is running. Then you just connect to the ports webcit is using.

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