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[#] Tue Nov 19 2019 01:16:02 EST from calcmandan @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: email address not sticking for user

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Can you include a screenshot? I had a similar problem but I don't nkow for sure without seeing it.



[#] Fri Nov 22 2019 13:59:06 EST from Tregillish @ Uncensored

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I am trying to get the web interface to use SSL, however it gives me the following error: 

 

Can’t connect securely to this page

This might be because the site uses outdated or unsafe TLS security settings. If this keeps happening, try contacting the website’s owner.

How can I fix this?



[#] Fri Nov 22 2019 22:31:02 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Obtain and install a valid SSL certificate.

[#] Sat Nov 23 2019 04:49:31 EST from Kristian @ Uncensored

Subject: IMAP client access

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Hello, and thank you to all contributing tips.

I managed to get it all installed andd probably working. What is left is to connect IMAP clients. When I try I get a refused connection. Do anyone have a suggestion of how to connect clients like Thunderbird or Android phones?

 

Best regards,

Kristian



[#] Sat Nov 23 2019 04:41:24 EST from "me" <me@scifidan.com> to room_Citadel_Support@citadel.org

Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] IMAP client access

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i use thunderbird and android for my citadel. it just works as long as i
put in the proper server info.

On 11/23/19 1:49 AM, Kristian wrote:

Hello, and thank you to all contributing tips.

I managed to get it all installed andd probably working. What is left
is to connect IMAP clients. When I try I get a refused connection. Do
anyone have a suggestion of how to connect clients like Thunderbird or
Android phones?

Best regards,

Kristian

[#] Sat Nov 23 2019 07:20:04 EST from Kristian @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] IMAP client access

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Can you please exemplify "correct info"?

I use a local IP-address, for testing. 192.168.1.10, username (not email-adress) and password. I have tried to have the client access via port 143 and 993.

Thanks in advance.



[#] Sun Nov 24 2019 09:34:25 EST from Kristian @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] IMAP client access

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Hello!

 

I found this error message below. Can someone tell me what to do? I understand there is a permission problem to bind the ports to Citadel, but I am to novis to know how to do it, or where to look.

Message from syslogd@Mail at Nov 24 13:25:43 ...
 citserver[640]: extensions: Startup Problems

Broadcast message from systemd-journald@Mail (Sun 2019-11-24 13:25:43 CET):

citserver[640]: extensions: Startup Problems

Message from syslogd@Mail at Nov 24 13:25:43 ...
-bash: Message: command not found
pi@Mail:~ $  citserver[640]: extensions: Citadel had trouble on starting up. We couldn't bind all ports you configured to be provided by Citadel Server.#012 This means, Citadel won't be the service provider for a specific service you configured it to.#012#012If you don't want Citadel to provide these services, turn them off in WebCit via: "Admin->System Preferences->Network".#012#012The failed ports and sockets are: extensions: TCP port 0.0.0.0:504: (citadel-TCP) ;extensions: TCP port 0.0.0.0:143: (IMAP) ;extensions: TCP port 0.0.0.0:993: (IMAPS) ;extensions: TCP port 0.0.0.0:119: (NNTP) ;extensions: TCP port 0.0.0.0:563: (NNTPS) ;extensions: TCP port 0.0.0.0:110: (POP3) ;extensions: TCP port 0.0.0.0:995: (POP3S) ;extensions: TCP port 0.0.0.0:25: (SMTP-MTA) ;extensions: TCP port 0.0.0.0:465: (SMTPs-MTA) ;extensions: TCP port 0.0.0.0:587: (SMTP-MSA) #012#012If you want Citadel to provide you with that functionality, check the output of "netstat -lnp" on Linux, or "netstat -na" on BSD and disable the program that binds these ports.#012#012#012To make both ways actualy take place restart the citserver with "sendcommand down"#012#012The errors returned by the system were:#012Can't bind: Permission denied; Can't bind: Permission denied; Can't bind: Permission denied; Can't bind: Permission denied; Can't bind: Permission denied; Can't bind: Permission denied; Can't bind: Permission denied; Can't bind: Permission denied; Can't bind: Permission denied; Can't bind: Permission denied#012#012You can recheck the above if you follow this faq item:#012http://www.citadel.org/doku.php?id=faq:mastering_your_os:net#netstat



[#] Sun Nov 24 2019 18:56:19 EST from kdmiller45 @ Uncensored

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I have logged into Citadel as a normal user and try to send email to my gmail account and I get this reply

 

550 (550 You must log in to send mail from GeeksMailServer )

Any help would be awesome

P.S and can receive email from the Gmail account fine

-- 
Keith Miller
Phoenix, AZ 85044



[#] Sun Nov 24 2019 18:59:41 EST from kdmiller45 @ Uncensored

Subject: not able to send to gmail

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I have logged into Citadel with a normal user account and can receive email from gmail no problem, but I get this message below when I try to send from Citadel to gmail

 

550 (550 You must log in to send mail from GeeksMailServer )

-- 
Keith Miller
Phoenix, AZ 85044



[#] Sun Nov 24 2019 19:16:56 EST from kdmiller45 @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: email address not sticking for user

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Tue Nov 19 2019 01:16:02 AM EST from calcmandan @ Uncensored Subject: Re: email address not sticking for user

Can you include a screenshot? I had a similar problem but I don't nkow for sure without seeing it.




I have set it to admin_name@vetiraq.com and it keeps coming back to admin_name@GeeksMailServer

 

The Node name is GeeksMailServer

Using Ubuntu 18.04

Citadel 927 w/ WebCit 925 server build 927

 

 

 

 


Keith Miller
Phoenix, AZ 85044



[#] Sun Nov 24 2019 19:31:11 EST from "me" <me@scifidan.com> to room_Citadel_Support@citadel.org,kdmiller45 <kdmiller45@uncensored.citadel.org>

Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] Re: email address not sticking for user

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Check your prefreences and settings for your user account to see what the 'preferred eail address' is.

If not there, I believe you can check int he 'edit contact information' screen in the primary internet email address field.

If not there, 'edit or delete users' and edit the config of your accout.

On November 24, 2019 4:16:56 PM PST, kdmiller45 <kdmiller45@uncensored.citadel.org> wrote:

 

Tue Nov 19 2019 01:16:02 AM EST from calcmandan @ Uncensored Subject: Re: email address not sticking for user

Can you include a screenshot? I had a similar problem but I don't nkow for sure without seeing it.




I have set it to admin_name@vetiraq.com and it keeps coming back to admin_name@GeeksMailServer

 

The Node name is GeeksMailServer

Using Ubuntu 18.04

Citadel 927 w/ WebCit 925 server build 927

 

 

 

 


Keith Miller
Phoenix, AZ 85044


Daniel

[#] Sun Nov 24 2019 22:02:17 EST from slobb11 @ Uncensored

Subject: Thunderbird star not syncing with citadel server

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Hi,

 

I have a citadel server running 917 on Ubuntu 18.04.

If I "star" an email in thunderbird, the star disappears as soon as I refresh? Is this a config issue? Or does citadel not support stars/flags?

 

Thanks in advance.



[#] Mon Nov 25 2019 19:35:26 EST from mckaygerhard @ Uncensored

Subject: citadel submit issues organization?

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where are the bugtracker?, how it's organized problems for sources? the radmap are very outdate and seems there's only one developer commiting at the igt repo.. 



[#] Mon Nov 25 2019 20:39:59 EST from "me" <me@scifidan.com> to room_Citadel_Support@citadel.org

Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] citadel submit issues organization?

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i've been holding on hope that the project will be revived. i'm giving this project six months and if things don't pick up i'm going to transition to another groupware solution.

if you find something out let me know please.

On November 25, 2019 4:35:26 PM PST, mckaygerhard <mckaygerhard@uncensored.citadel.org> wrote:

where are the bugtracker?, how it's organized problems for sources? the radmap are very outdate and seems there's only one developer commiting at the igt repo.. 


Daniel

[#] Tue Nov 26 2019 04:44:13 EST from megagumbo @ Uncensored

Subject: Citadel in a Docker Container

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Hi,

for the past four years, I've been running Citadel / Spamassassin / ClamAV as a Docker application stack (using the Docker-Volume-Netshare plugin and NFS for persistance). The Citadel part of that stack was containerized using this Dockerfile: https://github.com/million12/docker-citadel

However, with recent Debian / Ubuntu releases (everything based on Stretch), this won't work anymore as with Debian Stretch the setup program does no longer accept input piped via stdin (nor does the "expect" command work). But this is needed to automate the build of the image (meaning: not having to enter a running instance of the container and manually / interactively run setup).

Anyway, my question is: does anyone know of a Dockerfile that utilizes a recent Debian / Ubuntu base and does the same as the Dockerfile linked above?



[#] Tue Nov 26 2019 23:44:58 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] citadel submit issues organization?

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i've been holding on hope that the project will be revived. i'm giving this
project six months and if things don't pick up i'm >going to transition to another groupware solution.

The project is quite active. Most development is quietly happening behind the scenes. Here are some of the things that are currently happening:

* The project web site is being rebuilt. You can preview it at http://wwwdev.citadel.org . This is a slow process because we are taking the time to update documents that have fallen out of relevance. (We're also eliminating the clumsy wiki that drove the old site.)

* WebCit is receiving a full rewrite. The new one is a very modern style web application: dynamic layout to look good on both desktop and mobile, all built with client-side rendering, and fully REST and DAV enabled throughout.
As you might imagine, this is a long running effort, and WebCit "classic" must remain the current offering until it is finished.

* Massive changes have gone into the Citadel Server behind the scenes, all intending to make it easier to run in a Docker container. For example, all of the configuration system, network data, user profiles and profile photos, etc. have all been moved into the database. If you want to see this, there is a "citadel-docker" repository on code.citadel.org that you can check out.
The idea is that you will be able to just attach the Citadel container to a persistent volume (which is where your database lives) and run it -- no "setup" program is required anymore.

So yes, plenty is going on, all you had to do was ask. Frankly, I find your "threat to leave in six months" to be in poor taste. If you want to follow development, you can. If you want to participate in the project, even better; there are plenty of places where even non-coders can help, such as updating documentation and testing builds. If however, all you want to do is complain and post idle threats; don't wait six months; please leave now.

[#] Wed Nov 27 2019 10:26:22 EST from megagumbo @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] citadel submit issues organization?

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Tue Nov 26 2019 23:44:58 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] citadel submit issues organization?
i've been holding on hope that the project will be revived. i'm giving this
project six months and if things don't pick up i'm >going to transition to another groupware solution.

The project is quite active. Most development is quietly happening behind the scenes. Here are some of the things that are currently happening:

* The project web site is being rebuilt. You can preview it at http://wwwdev.citadel.org . This is a slow process because we are taking the time to update documents that have fallen out of relevance. (We're also eliminating the clumsy wiki that drove the old site.)

* WebCit is receiving a full rewrite. The new one is a very modern style web application: dynamic layout to look good on both desktop and mobile, all built with client-side rendering, and fully REST and DAV enabled throughout.
As you might imagine, this is a long running effort, and WebCit "classic" must remain the current offering until it is finished.

* Massive changes have gone into the Citadel Server behind the scenes, all intending to make it easier to run in a Docker container. For example, all of the configuration system, network data, user profiles and profile photos, etc. have all been moved into the database. If you want to see this, there is a "citadel-docker" repository on code.citadel.org that you can check out.
The idea is that you will be able to just attach the Citadel container to a persistent volume (which is where your database lives) and run it -- no "setup" program is required anymore.

So yes, plenty is going on, all you had to do was ask. Frankly, I find your "threat to leave in six months" to be in poor taste. If you want to follow development, you can. If you want to participate in the project, even better; there are plenty of places where even non-coders can help, such as updating documentation and testing builds. If however, all you want to do is complain and post idle threats; don't wait six months; please leave now.

Now, this *is* good news indeed! Especially the info regarding docker sounds promising. Citadel is the ideal mailserver to run containerized!

Thanks for the update!



[#] Wed Nov 27 2019 14:25:55 EST from donmr @ Uncensored

Subject: User documentation

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I am looking at Citadel for use as a standalone system for emergency response groups.

There does not seem to be much documentation aimed at new users and how to do things.

Am I missing something?

This is very important as there would be many potential users with limited experience.

 

It is an impressing system.

 

Thanks



[#] Wed Nov 27 2019 14:32:33 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] citadel submit issues organization?

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Now, this *is* good news indeed! Especially the info regarding docker
sounds promising. Citadel is the ideal mailserver to run
containerized!

Thanks for the update!

My pleasure ... thanks for the enthusiasm.

Hopefully, the containerized distribution will become the preferred way to install Citadel. It will be nice when you can simply delete the container, download a newer version, point it at the existing data volume, and get running again.

Eliminating the need to run setup has required a lot of effort. It did require changing the installation procedure so that instead of entering an administrator user name and password, there is now a default (username "admin" with password "citadel") that is automatically created when the server detects that it is starting up for the first time on an empty database.

Some of the system administration tasks are going to move from the text client over to ctdlsh. There will probably have to be some sort of way to run ctdlsh from the container host. We haven't gotten that far yet.

But yes, the idea is that Citadel will be a "cloud native" application that you can launch to the host, or hosting provider, of your choice with very little effort.

[#] Wed Nov 27 2019 15:05:11 EST from calcmandan @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] citadel submit issues organization?

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Hey man

This is my first chance to respond to you. First off, I offer sincere apologies. I can see how hurtful it is to see my words, but it wasn't meant, in any way, as a 'threat.' Whether I use citadel or not shouldn't make a difference in anyone's eyes, and frankly didn't think anyone would be around to see it. In my mind, I had been lamenting the thought of finding something else to replace Citadel. If i wanted a simple pop toaster I wouldn't be here. I wanted a groupware solution and this is the best out there fitting my requirements. I would really really like to stay with what I have and NOT find something else so I'm quite surprised and delighted to hear about the work being done on Citadel. Seriously, I had no idea so much work is being actively done on the system. I would be delighted to assist in any way I can. Ideally I would help with coding but it's been so long since doing it in any capacity it would be a nasty time bandit that would yield little quality. I can assist in documentation or art work though. Whatever I can do or have time to assist in I'll be happy to volunteer.

Tue Nov 26 2019 23:44:58 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored Subject: Re: [Citadel Support] citadel submit issues organization?

i've been holding on hope that the project will be revived. i'm giving this
project six months and if things don't pick up i'm >going to transition to another groupware solution.

The project is quite active. Most development is quietly happening behind the scenes. Here are some of the things that are currently happening:

* The project web site is being rebuilt. You can preview it at http://wwwdev.citadel.org . This is a slow process because we are taking the time to update documents that have fallen out of relevance. (We're also eliminating the clumsy wiki that drove the old site.)

* WebCit is receiving a full rewrite. The new one is a very modern style web application: dynamic layout to look good on both desktop and mobile, all built with client-side rendering, and fully REST and DAV enabled throughout.
As you might imagine, this is a long running effort, and WebCit "classic" must remain the current offering until it is finished.

* Massive changes have gone into the Citadel Server behind the scenes, all intending to make it easier to run in a Docker container. For example, all of the configuration system, network data, user profiles and profile photos, etc. have all been moved into the database. If you want to see this, there is a "citadel-docker" repository on code.citadel.org that you can check out.
The idea is that you will be able to just attach the Citadel container to a persistent volume (which is where your database lives) and run it -- no "setup" program is required anymore.

So yes, plenty is going on, all you had to do was ask. Frankly, I find your "threat to leave in six months" to be in poor taste. If you want to follow development, you can. If you want to participate in the project, even better; there are plenty of places where even non-coders can help, such as updating documentation and testing builds. If however, all you want to do is complain and post idle threats; don't wait six months; please leave now.

 



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