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[#] Tue Oct 01 2013 09:14:39 EDT from Devdom @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Webcit / Citadel SSL issue

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Mon Sep 30 2013 18:31:58 EDT from Devdom @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Webcit / Citadel SSL issue

 

Fri Sep 27 2013 11:17:27 EDT from Devdom @ Uncensored Subject: Webcit / Citadel SSL issue

good day to you all....

I think I need some help setting up my citadel/webcit with ssl/tls,
when I remove all keys and certificates then restart, it generates a self-signed key /certificate, all this works, next I remove all the files in /etc/ssl/webcit and /etc/ssl/citadel
then I run openssl genrsa -out citadel-key 2048
this generates the key
Start openssl req -new -key citadel.key -out citadel.crt
This generates the request form for Geotrust
I use this crt code to request a certificate using server Apache+OpenSSL
I get 2 codes back, an intermediate certificate code and the certificate code for the server; I rename those in citadel.cer and intermediate.cer
Then move those two files to the server in webcit and citadel
Restart the server, and the certificates are not recognized...
Am i missing a step here? Something obvious perhaps? I tried this sequence 4 times now....
help would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Marcel



bump;



well, so much for support,

Thanks all, signing off



[#] Tue Oct 01 2013 16:38:21 EDT from ax25 @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Webcit / Citadel SSL issue

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Sorry, I replied to the wrong message Devdom.  I guess I am running with a self generated cert so far, so I am not able to help.



[#] Wed Oct 02 2013 06:08:20 EDT from schaap23 @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Webcit / Citadel SSL issue

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When you move the certificates to /etc/ssl/webcit and /etc/ssl/citadel/,
make sure citadel cannot overwrite the new ssl certificate.
So change the file permissions (chmod) so that the file can only be read by citadel.
Otherwise citadel might try to overwrite your new certificates with self-signed certificates.
So login as root:
Su

Change the ownership of the keys to root
Chown root citadel.cer; chown root citadel.key

change the modifiers to 6 (owner read,write) 4 (group read) 4 (everyone read)
chmod 644 citadel.cer; chmod 644 citadel.key


It might also be necessary to append the intermediate certificate (intermediate.cer) to your own certificate (citadel.cer / webcit.cer).
For me, this was necessary to get my godaddy certificate working. I had to append the gd_bundle.cert (godaddy intermediate.cer) of godaddy to my citadel.cer:

Open the intermediate.cer with a text editor and copy it's contents.

Open the citadel.cer file with a text editor and go to the last line. On the last line paste the contents of the intermediate.cer.

Remember, since you have changed the ownership of the citadel.cer file to root, you must open the file as root, otherwise you cannot edit it off course.

Now you can login to webcit and restart the citadel server. You should now be able to use https (ssl).

 

Tue Oct 01 2013 09:14:39 EDT from Devdom @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Webcit / Citadel SSL issue

 

Mon Sep 30 2013 18:31:58 EDT from Devdom @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Webcit / Citadel SSL issue

 

Fri Sep 27 2013 11:17:27 EDT from Devdom @ Uncensored Subject: Webcit / Citadel SSL issue

good day to you all....

I think I need some help setting up my citadel/webcit with ssl/tls,
when I remove all keys and certificates then restart, it generates a self-signed key /certificate, all this works, next I remove all the files in /etc/ssl/webcit and /etc/ssl/citadel
then I run openssl genrsa -out citadel-key 2048
this generates the key
Start openssl req -new -key citadel.key -out citadel.crt
This generates the request form for Geotrust
I use this crt code to request a certificate using server Apache+OpenSSL
I get 2 codes back, an intermediate certificate code and the certificate code for the server; I rename those in citadel.cer and intermediate.cer
Then move those two files to the server in webcit and citadel
Restart the server, and the certificates are not recognized...
Am i missing a step here? Something obvious perhaps? I tried this sequence 4 times now....
help would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Marcel



bump;



well, so much for support,

Thanks all, signing off



 



[#] Wed Oct 02 2013 11:47:36 EDT from Sig @ Uncensored

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From the default citadel.rc (from the apt-get citadel-suite install):

# Command 69 allows the user to enter a server command directly. It is
# primarily for testing and not intended for general use. Usually there
# is no need to enable it.
cmd=69,0,&@Server command:
#
# end of command set configuration
#


I can't help but note that it's enabled by default. Not sure whether that is intended behavior.

[#] Wed Oct 02 2013 12:00:06 EDT from Sig @ Uncensored

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Is there any way to add tasks or notes to those folders from the command line interface?

[#] Wed Oct 02 2013 19:55:06 EDT from Muhammad Bashir Al-Noimi @ Uncensored

Subject: IM encoding

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Howdy,

 

How can I change the encode of IM text? it doesn't support UTF-8 (I'm using Arabic) although my system locale supports it!

mbnoimi-pc mbnoimi # locale
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
LANGUAGE=en_US:en
LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_NUMERIC=en_US.UTF-8
LC_TIME=en_US.UTF-8
LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_MONETARY=en_US.UTF-8
LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_PAPER=en_US.UTF-8
LC_NAME=en_US.UTF-8
LC_ADDRESS=en_US.UTF-8
LC_TELEPHONE=en_US.UTF-8
LC_MEASUREMENT=en_US.UTF-8
LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_US.UTF-8
LC_ALL=
mbnoimi-pc mbnoimi # 

How can I fix this issue?



[#] Wed Oct 02 2013 19:59:27 EDT from Muhammad Bashir Al-Noimi @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: Lost my Citadel.org password

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I googled about any solution but unfortunately I failed to find any way to recover citadel account!!!

Sat Sep 21 2013 02:40:48 EDT from Muhammad Bashir Al-Noimi @ Uncensored Subject: Re: Lost my Citadel.org password

Any help guys?

Mon Sep 16 2013 11:58:23 EDT from Muhammad Bashir Al-Noimi Subject: Lost my Citadel.org password
I want to know how can I recover my password of my account citadel.org account? I couldn’t find "recover your account" option for that I forced to use OpenID to be able post this message here.

 



 



[#] Thu Oct 03 2013 00:40:07 EDT from ax25 @ Uncensored

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Wed Oct 02 2013 11:47:36 AM EDT from Sig @ Uncensored
From the default citadel.rc (from the apt-get citadel-suite install):

# Command 69 allows the user to enter a server command directly. It is
# primarily for testing and not intended for general use. Usually there
# is no need to enable it.
cmd=69,0,&@Server command:
#
# end of command set configuration
#


I can't help but note that it's enabled by default. Not sure whether that is intended behavior.

Beavis moment, heh, command 69 eh, he he heh.



[#] Thu Oct 03 2013 07:44:41 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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I can't help but note that it's enabled by default. Not sure whether that
is intended behavior.

Yes it is. Sometimes it's possible to help support an end user by having them enter a server command. Since the security model of Citadel is built around the idea that the client is *not* trusted, allowing the user to enter server commands is as innocuous as opening port 504 on a public Citadel site.

There were some OpenBSD-running tinfoil hatters a few years back who argued otherwise, but they lost that argument.

[#] Thu Oct 03 2013 10:08:58 EDT from Sig @ Uncensored

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Makes sense to me. I will resume my poking around.

[#] Thu Oct 03 2013 11:30:57 EDT from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II

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Interesting behavior I'm noting in the last couple of versions of Citadel.


If I read new mail messages via IMAP (thereby marking them as read), and log in later via the text client, I get a message that I have new messages in Mail, but as I <G>oto through my rooms, Mail never pops up.

Of course, the Mail room doesn't pop up because, somehow, the system knows that there aren't actually any new messages in that room, and I'd expect that. I just find it a little odd that upon login, I'm greeted with that new Mail notification.

[#] Fri Oct 04 2013 10:26:47 EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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There were some OpenBSD-running tinfoil hatters a few years back who

argued otherwise, but they lost that argument.

You mean you don't think all functionality should be disabled by default?

[#] Fri Oct 04 2013 13:05:39 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: IM encoding

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Wed Oct 02 2013 19:55:06 EDT from Muhammad Bashir Al-Noimi @ Uncensored Subject: IM encoding

Howdy,

How can I change the encode of IM text? it doesn't support UTF-8 (I'm using Arabic) although my system locale supports it!

mbnoimi-pc mbnoimi # locale
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
LANGUAGE=en_US:en
LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_NUMERIC=en_US.UTF-8
LC_TIME=en_US.UTF-8
LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_MONETARY=en_US.UTF-8
LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_PAPER=en_US.UTF-8
LC_NAME=en_US.UTF-8
LC_ADDRESS=en_US.UTF-8
LC_TELEPHONE=en_US.UTF-8
LC_MEASUREMENT=en_US.UTF-8
LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_US.UTF-8
LC_ALL=
mbnoimi-pc mbnoimi # 

How can I fix this issue?

hm, usually all webcit generated content should be utf-8

at least german umlauts work well with the peer to peer chat in webcit.

can you dig up a little more detail about that?



[#] Fri Oct 04 2013 20:24:25 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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You mean you don't think all functionality should be disabled by
default?

Well, that strategy *did* work for getting Windows NT to be Orange Book certified ... it becomes a bit useless, but ...

[#] Sat Oct 05 2013 15:52:55 EDT from Sig @ Uncensored

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Is there any way to insert line breaks or spaces in the 'hello' file so they display in the text client? Right now, it's all a jumble.

[#] Sat Oct 05 2013 16:09:20 EDT from Sig @ Uncensored

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Are help messages even visible through the web interface anywhere?

[#] Sat Oct 05 2013 16:17:36 EDT from vince-q @ Cascade Lodge BBS

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Sat Oct 05 2013 12:52:55 PDT from Sig @ Uncensored
Is there any way to insert line breaks or spaces in the 'hello' file so they display in the text client? Right now, it's all a jumble.

I've often thought about this (and mentioned it to 'freakdog' about a year ago) that the text client and webcit should use different files in the 'messages' directory.


The problem is that webcit reads 'hello' and 'goodbye' as line-centered .txt files. The end result is absolutely not acceptable, particularly if a given Citadel uses ASCII Art.

--Vince



[#] Sat Oct 05 2013 16:22:05 EDT from Sig @ Uncensored

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It displays that way on the web client for me, too.

Weirdly, it includes the line break in parsing the goodbye file.
Well, it includes one line break, but not a blank line. Weird.

[#] Sat Oct 05 2013 16:41:48 EDT from vince-q @ Cascade Lodge BBS

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Try writing the goodbye file using HTML code instead of plain text.
It *might* work, depending on what the webcit code is actually doing (I've not looked). It will then, of course, look exceptionally strange using the text client - hence my position that the Citadel text client and WebCit should use different files in the messages directory.

[#] Sat Oct 05 2013 17:42:25 EDT from Sig @ Uncensored

Subject: Invalid RSS feeds

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This is what I get when I look at the RSS feed for the room Save the Text Client in Chromium:

This page contains the following errors:

error on line 336 at column 304: Input is not proper UTF-8, indicate encoding ! Bytes: 0x18 0x20 0x0D 0x0A

Below is a rendering of the page up to the first error.

And then the text all jumbled together.  Very odd.  I get this behavior in a few of the rooms I randomly picked: Television, A/V talk, Music, BOOM STICKS, but not Science Fiction or several others, which render normally.



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