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[#] Wed Jul 05 2023 17:36:47 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: citadel github

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bulding Citadel on Docker fails because git.citadel.org refused the
connection at the git clone command:

Cloning into 'citadel'...
fatal: unable to connect to git.citadel.org:
git.citadel.org[0: 72.0.224.90]: errno=Connection refused
git.citadel.org[1: 2606:8800:21:12::4800:e05a]: errno=Cannot assign
requested address

Browsing to http://git.citadel.org/ shows that a user and password is
needed.

The documentation on https://www.citadel.org/docker.html links to
https://code.citadel.org/ which also needs an account (that I can't
register because all of my mail addresses aren't allowed).

Is this on purpose? If yes, how to build Citadel via Dockerfile?

We did recently change the location of the repository. https://code.citadel.org is our private GitLab instance and I have just gone ahead and made the landing page go to the 'Explore' screen instead of the login screen, so you should be able to browse it now. You can also create an account using the email address cattalk22@uncensored.citadel.org if you want to; this would allow you to submit merge requests and the like if you felt inclined. We restrict logins to @citadel.org and @uncensored.citadel.org to keep random idiots on the outside from creating accounts.

Now, where was it that you saw a reference to the old git repository address?
I am looking through things and don't see it.

Also ... is there a reason you are attempting to build the container yourself?
You can just pull it from Docker Hub already built and ready to run. That's kind of the point.

[#] Wed Jul 05 2023 17:38:15 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: Thunderbird sync with Citadel not working

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citserver[8]: msgbase: security check fail; message 727286537 is not

Have you really put over 727 million messages through your Citadel system since installing it?

If not, I think your disk might be corrupted.

[#] Wed Jul 05 2023 17:39:38 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: Administrators can see user passwords?

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Recently started using Citadel and i've noticed that admins can see
user passwords... why? Is there an out of the box solution to disable
this?

Passwords are not encrypted on disk for local accounts. If you use an external authenticator such as an LDAP directory you can use whatever encryption that service provides.

[#] Wed Jul 05 2023 21:10:51 EDT from Arron

Subject: Re: Administrators can see user passwords?

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It's not a case of checking on disk,

If a user with access level 6 (admin) goes to edit a user using webcit, the password of that user is visible to the admin.



[#] Thu Jul 06 2023 13:53:33 EDT from chernobyl

Subject: EasyInstall aborting with Updated/Upgrading Rasbian OS

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Hello,

I have been able to run Citadel for a few years with few issues on my Raspberry PI's here at work. 

I went to attempt to install Citadel using EasyInstall (as done multiple times without issue) on a new Raspberry PI I have that has run "apt-get update" and "apt-get upgrade". 

For some reason, when running EasyInstall on this new PI, i get the following undefined reference error:

 

/usr/bin/ld: /usr/local/ctdlsupport/lib/libdb.a(mut_pthread.o): undefined reference to symbol 'pthread_rwlockattr_init@@GLIBC_2.4'

//lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libpthread.so.0: error adding symbols: DSO missing from command line

collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status

Makefile:41: recipe for target 'ctdl3264' failed

make: *** [ctdl3264] Error 1

 Citadel Easy Install is aborting. 

 The last few lines above this message may indicate what went wrong. 

 Linux Debian 9.13( 4.19.66-v7+ armv7l) 

 
 
Is this due to Citadel having compile issues with the reported version of Debian?
What can I try to work around this? 
I have tried the docker install but that did not work either. 
 
Thanks in advance for any help provided!


[#] Fri Jul 07 2023 17:32:07 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: EasyInstall aborting with Updated/Upgrading Rasbian OS

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I have tried the docker install but that did not work either. 

Can you explain what happened when you tried to run the Docker version?

That is the recommended easiest way to run Citadel.

[#] Fri Jul 07 2023 18:28:52 EDT from chernobyl

Subject: Re: EasyInstall aborting with Updated/Upgrading Rasbian OS

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Sure. I had to spend a little time figuring out that the version of Docker I have supports slightly different syntax and arguments. 

Looks like it may have something to do with what's being talked about over here: https://github.com/docker/compose/issues/8756

 

/usr/local $ sudo docker run -d --restart=on-failure --net=host --volume=/usr/local/citadel:/citadel-data --name=citadel citadeldotorg/citadel

Unable to find image 'citadeldotorg/citadel:latest' locally

Pulling repository docker.io/citadeldotorg/citadel

Error: Status 410 trying to pull repository citadeldotorg/citadel: "<html>\r\n<head><title>410 Gone</title></head>\r\n<body>\r\n<center><h1>410 Gone</h1></center>\r\n<hr><center>openresty</center>\r\n</body>\r\n</html>\r\n"

I'm getting a 410 Gone when trying to access the specified image. I tried to follow the instructions at the following web page: https://www.citadel.org/docker.html

Let me know if I may have overlooked something. It tends to happen..lol

 


[#] Sun Jul 09 2023 10:02:28 EDT from cattalk22

Subject: Re: citadel github

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Wed Jul 05 2023 17:36:47 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar Subject: Re: citadel github
bulding Citadel on Docker fails because git.citadel.org refused the
connection at the git clone command:

Cloning into 'citadel'...
fatal: unable to connect to git.citadel.org:
git.citadel.org[0: 72.0.224.90]: errno=Connection refused
git.citadel.org[1: 2606:8800:21:12::4800:e05a]: errno=Cannot assign
requested address

Browsing to http://git.citadel.org/ shows that a user and password is
needed.

The documentation on https://www.citadel.org/docker.html links to
https://code.citadel.org/ which also needs an account (that I can't
register because all of my mail addresses aren't allowed).

Is this on purpose? If yes, how to build Citadel via Dockerfile?

We did recently change the location of the repository. https://code.citadel.org is our private GitLab instance and I have just gone ahead and made the landing page go to the 'Explore' screen instead of the login screen, so you should be able to browse it now. You can also create an account using the email address cattalk22@uncensored.citadel.org if you want to; this would allow you to submit merge requests and the like if you felt inclined. We restrict logins to @citadel.org and @uncensored.citadel.org to keep random idiots on the outside from creating accounts.

Now, where was it that you saw a reference to the old git repository address?
I am looking through things and don't see it.

Also ... is there a reason you are attempting to build the container yourself?
You can just pull it from Docker Hub already built and ready to run. That's kind of the point.

 

Thanks, I see you or someone else already found the reference because the link works now. However, it was in this sentence:

  • Browse the build tree to see the Dockerfile and other relevant information. The container is built from the mainline Citadel source plus some supporting code.

The reason why I build the container myself is because I install Spamassassin to connect it on localhost in Citadel.

 



[#] Sun Jul 09 2023 17:58:59 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: citadel github

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The reason why I build the container myself is because I install
Spamassassin to connect it on localhost in Citadel.


If you're running the Citadel container using "--network=host" it will be able to connect to an instance of SpamAssassin running either on the host itself or in another container.

[#] Mon Jul 10 2023 08:48:46 EDT from cjonline

Subject: Search problem

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When I try to search on the citadel web client it no longer returns recent search results data.. I can search and it returns historic information from emails but nothing recent (i.e in the last 4 weeks)

is there any way I can re-index or kick it back in to life?

 

thanks

Craig.



[#] Mon Jul 10 2023 18:40:31 EDT from chernobyl

Subject: Re: EasyInstall aborting with Updated/Upgrading Rasbian OS

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Just thought I would provide an update. After upgrading my Raspbian distribution from 9(stretch) to 10 (Buster) and re-installing docker, I was able to successfully get Citadel working via the Docker installation method.

However, the "easyinstall" method still gives the same undefined reference errors that it was before. 

Looks like the "easyinstall" method is deprecated....



[#] Tue Jul 11 2023 15:58:36 EDT from secretpanda

Subject: citadel issue

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Hi

ive installed citadel on a fresh ubuntu 22.04 machine

all runs fine except no settings are saved, if i create a new user its there until a reboot, if i change the FQDN etc it says its changed but if i restart the citadel service its all lost. any ideas?

 

thanks



[#] Tue Jul 11 2023 20:54:00 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: citadel issue

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all runs fine except no settings are saved, if i create a new user
its there until a reboot, if i change the FQDN etc it says its
changed but if i restart the citadel service its all lost. any ideas?

What install method did you use? If you are using the container version it sounds like your container hasn't mounted a persistent volume and the data is getting written to the container's temporary writable layer.

[#] Wed Jul 12 2023 18:52:43 EDT from user20230713

Subject: vulnerability report

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Hi

 

I found probably unreported vulnerability on citadel and am looking for a contact I can send the detail to.

It would be great to know the support's email address or other contact information.

 

Thanks



[#] Wed Jul 12 2023 21:03:53 EDT from user20230713

Subject: Re: vulnerability report

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I reported to the Information Security Early Warning Partnership of Japan (because it's my country) about the vulnerability's detail, so messages may be sent from JPCERT for coordination and investigation.

If direct information about this vulnerability is needed from me, who found the vulnerability, please tell me where to send message.

Thanks

Wed Jul 12 2023 18:52:43 EDT from user20230713 Subject: vulnerability report

Hi

 

I found probably unreported vulnerability on citadel and am looking for a contact I can send the detail to.

It would be great to know the support's email address or other contact information.

 

Thanks



 



[#] Thu Jul 13 2023 09:32:13 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: vulnerability report

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It would be great to know the support's email address or other
contact information.

I am the lead developer. You can send confidential security info as a PM to me right here.

[#] Fri Jul 14 2023 19:20:27 EDT from Nurb432

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Just an FYI sort of thing of something amiss, but not a critical bug, just odd.

I hit one of the rooms ( Religion ) was rendering the page, stopped with a message "error:" between the names ( see screenshot below ) for a moment then finished rendering. Tried it another time to get a screenshot in action but it was too fast for me. 3rd attempt it rendered to the bottom of the page ok  but i could scroll back up to get the error. 

 



[#] Sat Jul 15 2023 05:09:28 EDT from thewizard

Subject: Re: EasyInstall aborting with Updated/Upgrading Rasbian OS

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Mon Jul 10 2023 18:40:31 EDT from chernobyl Subject: Re: EasyInstall aborting with Updated/Upgrading Rasbian OS

Just thought I would provide an update. After upgrading my Raspbian distribution from 9(stretch) to 10 (Buster) and re-installing docker, I was able to successfully get Citadel working via the Docker installation method.

However, the "easyinstall" method still gives the same undefined reference errors that it was before. 

Looks like the "easyinstall" method is deprecated....



 

I'm having easy install issues too. Literally a week ago it worked perfectly on my RPi with stretch. I've not changed the OS but now I get lots of...

 

In file included from server/modules/imap/imap_metadata.c:39:0:

server/modules/imap/../../citadel_defs.h:15:32: warning: unknown option after '#pragma GCC diagnostic' kind [-Wpragmas]

 #pragma GCC diagnostic ignored "-Wformat-truncation"

                                ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

In file included from server/modules/imap/imap_misc.c:31:0:

server/modules/imap/../../citadel_defs.h:15:32: warning: unknown option after '#pragma GCC diagnostic' kind [-Wpragmas]

 #pragma GCC diagnostic ignored "-Wformat-truncation"

 


[#] Sat Jul 15 2023 16:40:30 EDT from stormytramp

Subject: Outlook client disappearing emails

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Customer reported an issue with  MS OL2013 where they selected several emails from inbos and pasted them into another folder under the MS OL Inbox then changed to that folder and the emails disappeared. Then also, the email is not found anywhere.

 

has anyone experienced this rather bizarre occurence and where does The email go?

I am also curious how one could get a list of emails as admin slated for auto purge and if possible to reset some for restore to user access. 



[#] Tue Jul 18 2023 06:14:43 EDT from PhoenixC46

Subject: Problems installing on Raspberry Pi 4B (Bullseye)

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Hello, i'm trying to get Citadel running on my Pi and tried various methods (each from a clean install of Raspian) and get the same error each time.

(full dump here: https://pastebin.com/1LcdxxKw)

Can anyone offer a suggestion to what i'm doing wrong or is Bullseye not yet supported? I've heard from others that it worked on Debian Buster but i'd rather stick with Bullseye if possible.



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