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[#] Sun Jul 09 2023 10:02:28 EDT from cattalk22

Subject: Re: citadel github

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Wed Jul 05 2023 17:36:47 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar Subject: Re: citadel github
bulding Citadel on Docker fails because git.citadel.org refused the
connection at the git clone command:

Cloning into 'citadel'...
fatal: unable to connect to git.citadel.org:
git.citadel.org[0: 72.0.224.90]: errno=Connection refused
git.citadel.org[1: 2606:8800:21:12::4800:e05a]: errno=Cannot assign
requested address

Browsing to http://git.citadel.org/ shows that a user and password is
needed.

The documentation on https://www.citadel.org/docker.html links to
https://code.citadel.org/ which also needs an account (that I can't
register because all of my mail addresses aren't allowed).

Is this on purpose? If yes, how to build Citadel via Dockerfile?

We did recently change the location of the repository. https://code.citadel.org is our private GitLab instance and I have just gone ahead and made the landing page go to the 'Explore' screen instead of the login screen, so you should be able to browse it now. You can also create an account using the email address cattalk22@uncensored.citadel.org if you want to; this would allow you to submit merge requests and the like if you felt inclined. We restrict logins to @citadel.org and @uncensored.citadel.org to keep random idiots on the outside from creating accounts.

Now, where was it that you saw a reference to the old git repository address?
I am looking through things and don't see it.

Also ... is there a reason you are attempting to build the container yourself?
You can just pull it from Docker Hub already built and ready to run. That's kind of the point.

 

Thanks, I see you or someone else already found the reference because the link works now. However, it was in this sentence:

  • Browse the build tree to see the Dockerfile and other relevant information. The container is built from the mainline Citadel source plus some supporting code.

The reason why I build the container myself is because I install Spamassassin to connect it on localhost in Citadel.

 



[#] Sun Jul 09 2023 17:58:59 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: citadel github

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The reason why I build the container myself is because I install
Spamassassin to connect it on localhost in Citadel.


If you're running the Citadel container using "--network=host" it will be able to connect to an instance of SpamAssassin running either on the host itself or in another container.

[#] Mon Jul 10 2023 08:48:46 EDT from cjonline

Subject: Search problem

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When I try to search on the citadel web client it no longer returns recent search results data.. I can search and it returns historic information from emails but nothing recent (i.e in the last 4 weeks)

is there any way I can re-index or kick it back in to life?

 

thanks

Craig.



[#] Mon Jul 10 2023 18:40:31 EDT from chernobyl

Subject: Re: EasyInstall aborting with Updated/Upgrading Rasbian OS

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Just thought I would provide an update. After upgrading my Raspbian distribution from 9(stretch) to 10 (Buster) and re-installing docker, I was able to successfully get Citadel working via the Docker installation method.

However, the "easyinstall" method still gives the same undefined reference errors that it was before. 

Looks like the "easyinstall" method is deprecated....



[#] Tue Jul 11 2023 15:58:36 EDT from secretpanda

Subject: citadel issue

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Hi

ive installed citadel on a fresh ubuntu 22.04 machine

all runs fine except no settings are saved, if i create a new user its there until a reboot, if i change the FQDN etc it says its changed but if i restart the citadel service its all lost. any ideas?

 

thanks



[#] Tue Jul 11 2023 20:54:00 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: citadel issue

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all runs fine except no settings are saved, if i create a new user
its there until a reboot, if i change the FQDN etc it says its
changed but if i restart the citadel service its all lost. any ideas?

What install method did you use? If you are using the container version it sounds like your container hasn't mounted a persistent volume and the data is getting written to the container's temporary writable layer.

[#] Wed Jul 12 2023 18:52:43 EDT from user20230713

Subject: vulnerability report

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Hi

 

I found probably unreported vulnerability on citadel and am looking for a contact I can send the detail to.

It would be great to know the support's email address or other contact information.

 

Thanks



[#] Wed Jul 12 2023 21:03:53 EDT from user20230713

Subject: Re: vulnerability report

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I reported to the Information Security Early Warning Partnership of Japan (because it's my country) about the vulnerability's detail, so messages may be sent from JPCERT for coordination and investigation.

If direct information about this vulnerability is needed from me, who found the vulnerability, please tell me where to send message.

Thanks

Wed Jul 12 2023 18:52:43 EDT from user20230713 Subject: vulnerability report

Hi

 

I found probably unreported vulnerability on citadel and am looking for a contact I can send the detail to.

It would be great to know the support's email address or other contact information.

 

Thanks



 



[#] Thu Jul 13 2023 09:32:13 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: vulnerability report

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It would be great to know the support's email address or other
contact information.

I am the lead developer. You can send confidential security info as a PM to me right here.

[#] Fri Jul 14 2023 19:20:27 EDT from Nurb432

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Just an FYI sort of thing of something amiss, but not a critical bug, just odd.

I hit one of the rooms ( Religion ) was rendering the page, stopped with a message "error:" between the names ( see screenshot below ) for a moment then finished rendering. Tried it another time to get a screenshot in action but it was too fast for me. 3rd attempt it rendered to the bottom of the page ok  but i could scroll back up to get the error. 

 



[#] Sat Jul 15 2023 05:09:28 EDT from thewizard

Subject: Re: EasyInstall aborting with Updated/Upgrading Rasbian OS

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Mon Jul 10 2023 18:40:31 EDT from chernobyl Subject: Re: EasyInstall aborting with Updated/Upgrading Rasbian OS

Just thought I would provide an update. After upgrading my Raspbian distribution from 9(stretch) to 10 (Buster) and re-installing docker, I was able to successfully get Citadel working via the Docker installation method.

However, the "easyinstall" method still gives the same undefined reference errors that it was before. 

Looks like the "easyinstall" method is deprecated....



 

I'm having easy install issues too. Literally a week ago it worked perfectly on my RPi with stretch. I've not changed the OS but now I get lots of...

 

In file included from server/modules/imap/imap_metadata.c:39:0:

server/modules/imap/../../citadel_defs.h:15:32: warning: unknown option after '#pragma GCC diagnostic' kind [-Wpragmas]

 #pragma GCC diagnostic ignored "-Wformat-truncation"

                                ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

In file included from server/modules/imap/imap_misc.c:31:0:

server/modules/imap/../../citadel_defs.h:15:32: warning: unknown option after '#pragma GCC diagnostic' kind [-Wpragmas]

 #pragma GCC diagnostic ignored "-Wformat-truncation"

 


[#] Sat Jul 15 2023 16:40:30 EDT from stormytramp

Subject: Outlook client disappearing emails

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Customer reported an issue with  MS OL2013 where they selected several emails from inbos and pasted them into another folder under the MS OL Inbox then changed to that folder and the emails disappeared. Then also, the email is not found anywhere.

 

has anyone experienced this rather bizarre occurence and where does The email go?

I am also curious how one could get a list of emails as admin slated for auto purge and if possible to reset some for restore to user access. 



[#] Tue Jul 18 2023 06:14:43 EDT from PhoenixC46

Subject: Problems installing on Raspberry Pi 4B (Bullseye)

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Hello, i'm trying to get Citadel running on my Pi and tried various methods (each from a clean install of Raspian) and get the same error each time.

(full dump here: https://pastebin.com/1LcdxxKw)

Can anyone offer a suggestion to what i'm doing wrong or is Bullseye not yet supported? I've heard from others that it worked on Debian Buster but i'd rather stick with Bullseye if possible.



[#] Wed Jul 19 2023 09:05:11 EDT from xhabit

Subject: my most bad Problem

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i'm using citadel now for several months. and i'like it. but, the most bad problem is. the server is runing some time, later crash always the db. i'dont know why.

today i'will try a upgrade to the new version, and i'hope this worst case will gone.

i'm happy, for taht i'do every night a full backup, so if this happen i'can restore the last backup. but it is only a workaround.



[#] Wed Jul 19 2023 09:35:43 EDT from xhabit

Subject: error current easyinstall, some idea?

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target system, current update and upgraded debian bullseye

older version of citadel was runing

easyinstell output:

2023-07-19 15:29:54 (266 KB/s) - 'citadel-easyinstall.tar.gz' saved [463266/463266]

 Installing Citadel...

Running the configure script to create config.mk

Testing for OpenSSL...
Testing for iconv...
iconv.h is present and requires no additional libraries
# config.mk is generated by configure
CTDLDIR := /usr/local/citadel
CFLAGS :=  -I/usr/local/ctdlsupport/include  -g -DHAVE_OPENSSL -DBUILD_ID=\"23200\" -DCTDLDIR=\"/usr/local/citadel\"
LDFLAGS := -L/usr/local/ctdlsupport/lib -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/ctdlsupport/lib  -lssl -lcrypto -lz

cc -I/usr/local/ctdlsupport/include  -g -DHAVE_OPENSSL -DBUILD_ID=\"23200\" -DCTDLDIR=\"/usr/local/citadel\" \
        server/*.c server/modules/*/*.c \
        -L/usr/local/ctdlsupport/lib -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/ctdlsupport/lib  -lssl -lcrypto -lz -lresolv -lcitadel -lpthread -lz -lical -lldap -lcrypt -lexpat -lcurl -ldb \
        -o citserver
cc -I/usr/local/ctdlsupport/include  -g -DHAVE_OPENSSL -DBUILD_ID=\"23200\" -DCTDLDIR=\"/usr/local/citadel\" -L/usr/local/ctdlsupport/lib -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/ctdlsupport/lib  -lssl -lcrypto -lz utils/setup.c -lcitadel -o setup
cc -I/usr/local/ctdlsupport/include  -g -DHAVE_OPENSSL -DBUILD_ID=\"23200\" -DCTDLDIR=\"/usr/local/citadel\" -L/usr/local/ctdlsupport/lib -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/ctdlsupport/lib  -lssl -lcrypto -lz utils/ctdlmigrate.c -lcitadel -lreadline -o ctdlmigrate
cc -I/usr/local/ctdlsupport/include  -g -DHAVE_OPENSSL -DBUILD_ID=\"23200\" -DCTDLDIR=\"/usr/local/citadel\" -L/usr/local/ctdlsupport/lib -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/ctdlsupport/lib  -lssl -lcrypto -lz utils/sendcommand.c -lcitadel -o sendcommand
cc -I/usr/local/ctdlsupport/include  -g -DHAVE_OPENSSL -DBUILD_ID=\"23200\" -DCTDLDIR=\"/usr/local/citadel\" -L/usr/local/ctdlsupport/lib -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/ctdlsupport/lib  -lssl -lcrypto -lz utils/citmail.c -lcitadel -o citmail
cc -I/usr/local/ctdlsupport/include  -g -DHAVE_OPENSSL -DBUILD_ID=\"23200\" -DCTDLDIR=\"/usr/local/citadel\" -L/usr/local/ctdlsupport/lib -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/ctdlsupport/lib  -lssl -lcrypto -lz utils/chkpw.c -o chkpw
cc -I/usr/local/ctdlsupport/include  -g -DHAVE_OPENSSL -DBUILD_ID=\"23200\" -DCTDLDIR=\"/usr/local/citadel\" -L/usr/local/ctdlsupport/lib -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/ctdlsupport/lib  -lssl -lcrypto -lz utils/chkpwd.c utils/auth.c -lcrypt -o chkpwd
utils/ctdl3264_prep.sh
cc -I/usr/local/ctdlsupport/include  -g -DHAVE_OPENSSL -DBUILD_ID=\"23200\" -DCTDLDIR=\"/usr/local/citadel\" -L/usr/local/ctdlsupport/lib -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/ctdlsupport/lib  -lssl -lcrypto -lz utils/ctdl3264.c -lcitadel -lz -ldb -o ctdl3264
/usr/bin/ld: /usr/local/ctdlsupport/lib/libdb.a(os_yield.o): in function `__os_yield_ctdl':
os_yield.c:(.text+0x94): undefined reference to `pthread_yield'
/usr/bin/ld: /usr/local/ctdlsupport/lib/libdb.a(mut_pthread.o): in function `__db_pthread_mutex_prep.constprop.0.isra.0':
mut_pthread.c:(.text+0x29): undefined reference to `pthread_mutex_trylock'
/usr/bin/ld: /usr/local/ctdlsupport/lib/libdb.a(mut_pthread.o): in function `__db_pthread_mutex_init_ctdl':
mut_pthread.c:(.text+0xc5): undefined reference to `pthread_mutexattr_init'
/usr/bin/ld: mut_pthread.c:(.text+0xe6): undefined reference to `pthread_mutexattr_setpshared'
/usr/bin/ld: mut_pthread.c:(.text+0x148): undefined reference to `pthread_mutexattr_destroy'
/usr/bin/ld: mut_pthread.c:(.text+0x19e): undefined reference to `pthread_condattr_setpshared'
collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
gmake: *** [Makefile:41: ctdl3264] Error 1
 Citadel Easy Install is aborting.
 The last few lines above this message may indicate what went wrong.
 Linux Debian 11.7( 5.10.0-23-amd64 x86_64)
root@mail:~# apt-get dist-upgrade
Paketlisten werden gelesen… Fertig
Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut… Fertig
Statusinformationen werden eingelesen… Fertig
Paketaktualisierung (Upgrade) wird berechnet… Fertig
0 aktualisiert, 0 neu installiert, 0 zu entfernen und 0 nicht aktualisiert.
root@mail:~#



[#] Wed Jul 19 2023 12:14:06 EDT from mythink

Subject: what are the hardware and System requirements to deploy Citadel?

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might be a silly question but have to spare systems

1) and old Raspberry PI i believe the 1GB model 

2) have a small intel i7 desktop 4"x4"x2" block i think it has 16GB ram and SSD drive not sure how big haven't used both in a while.

 

I want to install on Debian Linux on the PI preferred

The system is going to operating mainly on x.25 over ham radio on a public IP with ssh / telnet (BBS)  about 1200 baud. 



[#] Wed Jul 19 2023 13:01:19 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: my most bad Problem

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i'm using citadel now for several months. and i'like it. but, the most bad

problem is. the server is runing some time, later crash always the db. i'dont

know why.

You're not the only one getting a bit tired of Berkeley DB. We're beginning some efforts to eventually replace it.

[#] Wed Jul 19 2023 13:02:12 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: EasyInstall aborting with Updated/Upgrading Rasbian OS

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I'm having easy install issues too. Literally a week ago it worked
perfectly on my RPi with stretch. I've not changed the OS but now I
get lots of...

I think it's time for us to push an update to Easy Install. Stay tuned.

[#] Wed Jul 19 2023 13:03:16 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: error current easyinstall, some idea?

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mut_pthread.c:(.text+0xc5): undefined reference to `pthread_mutexattr_init'


Something might be wonky with the latest Debian. I haven't tried it yet, but it looks like we have to get on that.

In the mean time, you might want to try the containerized distribution of Citadel using Docker. It's already built for you.

[#] Wed Jul 19 2023 13:04:39 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: what are the hardware and System requirements to deploy Citadel?

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might be a silly question but have to spare systems

1) and old Raspberry PI i believe the 1GB model 

2) have a small intel i7 desktop 4"x4"x2" block i think it has 16GB
ram and SSD drive not sure how big haven't used both in a while.

Which generation Raspberry Pi? If it's a 3 or 4, you should be able to run Citadel on it, no problem. However I don't recommend putting Citadel on an SD card, as it is write intensive. Connect a "real" disk drive using USB.

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