After setting auto-purge to forget all messages over 100 days old, my message count dropped immensely and I re-opened port 25.  No issues since, it's running smoothly.

Sun Jul 02 2023 12:03:53 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

So ... is it still crashing when port 25 is open?

Eventually resolved it by using Easy Install. Apparently the Citadel version in the distro (917-4) has an issue. Installing 972 through Easy Install made averything work again.

Mon Apr 03 2023 12:37:10 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar Subject: Re: Citadel stopped working after Ubuntu release upgrade

You might try deleting all those old sysvinit scripts. Citadel has been using systemd natively for some time now.

It could be that it's getting started up wrong.

And if that doesn't fix it, you might also try ditching the Easy Install distribution entirely and just running the Docker container.

Hello,

today I noticed 5 strange folders in my IMAP client with naming like 64a15d9d.0004.0000000007.foldertest1688296861342. Sometimes there is even subfolders like /foldertest in there as well. When I try to delete from IMAP client, Citadel server returns error 'NO ... no such room, or access denied'.

When accessing the account though Webcit I see the same folder as room 9999999999.64a15d9d.0003.0000000007.foldertest1688296861342\foldertest. Again, Cannot edit or delete it, Error 'Higher access is required to access this function'

Is there any way to get rid of these folders?`

Any help is much appreciated.

Hello,

bulding Citadel on Docker fails because git.citadel.org refused the connection at the git clone command:

Cloning into 'citadel'...
fatal: unable to connect to git.citadel.org:
git.citadel.org[0: 72.0.224.90]: errno=Connection refused
git.citadel.org[1: 2606:8800:21:12::4800:e05a]: errno=Cannot assign requested address

Browsing to http://git.citadel.org/ shows that a user and password is needed.

The documentation on https://www.citadel.org/docker.html links to https://code.citadel.org/ which also needs an account (that I can't register because all of my mail addresses aren't allowed).

Is this on purpose? If yes, how to build Citadel via Dockerfile?

Hello again,

another issue that I currently encounter. Thunderbird doesn't sync anymore with Citadel server even tho settings are correct (nothing has changed).
When I sync with the phone all works well. I compared the logs entries on Citadel server when syncing with phone and with PC and on phone there is a lot going on in the log while on PC it's really just only this:

citserver[7]: 118 noop
citserver[7]: ---- Looking up [NOOP] -----
citserver[7]: Found.
citserver[7]: IMAP command completed in 0.876 seconds
citserver[7]: 119 UID fetch 727286984:* (FLAGS)
citserver[7]: ---- Looking up [UID] -----
citserver[7]: ---- Looking up [UID] -----
citserver[7]: Found.
citserver[7]: IMAP command completed in 0.1413 seconds
citserver[7]: 120 UID fetch 727286380:727286983 (UID RFC822.SIZE FLAGS BODY.PEEK[HEADER.FIELDS (From To Cc Bcc Subject Date Message-ID Priority X-Priority References Newsgroups In-Reply-To Content-Type Reply-To)])
citserver[7]: ---- Looking up [UID] -----
citserver[7]: ---- Looking up [UID] -----
citserver[7]: Found.
citserver[7]: IMAP command completed in 0.1070 seconds

Does anybody know what could cause this?

Update:

I just installed another mail client and it syncs the mail exactly to the same point as Thunderbird (2023-06-15) but everything newer isn't there although I see it on the phone and also on Citadel Web.

Then I installed Thunderbird on my Notebook and it also syncs only up to this point. Strange.

Update 2:

Now I got something useful. In the previous post I said that I can see the mails in Citadel Web but I actually didn't try to open the mails.
So I did this now and the Web GUI shows just "ERROR".
The log:

webcit[10]: GET /msg/727286537 HTTP/1.1
citserver[8]: [mail(3)] MSG4 727286537
citserver[8]: msgbase: CtdlOutputMsg(msgnum=727286537, mode=2, section=<>)
citserver[8]: msgbase: security check fail; message 727286537 is not in 0000000003.Mail
webcit[10]: HTTP: 200 [0.001184] GET /msg/727286537

This only applies to mails after the date that Thunderbird syncs.

What is this "security check" that fails?

Hi,

Recently started using Citadel and i've noticed that admins can see user passwords... why? Is there an out of the box solution to disable this?

Thanks,

Arron

It's not a case of checking on disk,

If a user with access level 6 (admin) goes to edit a user using webcit, the password of that user is visible to the admin.

Hello,

I have been able to run Citadel for a few years with few issues on my Raspberry PI's here at work. 

I went to attempt to install Citadel using EasyInstall (as done multiple times without issue) on a new Raspberry PI I have that has run "apt-get update" and "apt-get upgrade". 

For some reason, when running EasyInstall on this new PI, i get the following undefined reference error:

/usr/bin/ld: /usr/local/ctdlsupport/lib/libdb.a(mut_pthread.o): undefined reference to symbol 'pthread_rwlockattr_init@@GLIBC_2.4'

//lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libpthread.so.0: error adding symbols: DSO missing from command line

collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status

Makefile:41: recipe for target 'ctdl3264' failed

make: *** [ctdl3264] Error 1

 Citadel Easy Install is aborting. 

 The last few lines above this message may indicate what went wrong. 

 Linux Debian 9.13( 4.19.66-v7+ armv7l) 

Sure. I had to spend a little time figuring out that the version of Docker I have supports slightly different syntax and arguments. 

Looks like it may have something to do with what's being talked about over here: https://github.com/docker/compose/issues/8756

/usr/local $ sudo docker run -d --restart=on-failure --net=host --volume=/usr/local/citadel:/citadel-data --name=citadel citadeldotorg/citadel

Unable to find image 'citadeldotorg/citadel:latest' locally

Pulling repository docker.io/citadeldotorg/citadel

Error: Status 410 trying to pull repository citadeldotorg/citadel: "<html>\r\n<head><title>410 Gone</title></head>\r\n<body>\r\n<center><h1>410 Gone</h1></center>\r\n<hr><center>openresty</center>\r\n</body>\r\n</html>\r\n"

I'm getting a 410 Gone when trying to access the specified image. I tried to follow the instructions at the following web page: https://www.citadel.org/docker.html

Let me know if I may have overlooked something. It tends to happen..lol

Wed Jul 05 2023 17:36:47 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar Subject: Re: citadel github

bulding Citadel on Docker fails because git.citadel.org refused the
connection at the git clone command:

Cloning into 'citadel'...
fatal: unable to connect to git.citadel.org:
git.citadel.org[0: 72.0.224.90]: errno=Connection refused
git.citadel.org[1: 2606:8800:21:12::4800:e05a]: errno=Cannot assign
requested address

Browsing to http://git.citadel.org/ shows that a user and password is
needed.

The documentation on https://www.citadel.org/docker.html links to
https://code.citadel.org/ which also needs an account (that I can't
register because all of my mail addresses aren't allowed).

Is this on purpose? If yes, how to build Citadel via Dockerfile?

We did recently change the location of the repository. https://code.citadel.org is our private GitLab instance and I have just gone ahead and made the landing page go to the 'Explore' screen instead of the login screen, so you should be able to browse it now. You can also create an account using the email address cattalk22@uncensored.citadel.org if you want to; this would allow you to submit merge requests and the like if you felt inclined. We restrict logins to @citadel.org and @uncensored.citadel.org to keep random idiots on the outside from creating accounts.

Now, where was it that you saw a reference to the old git repository address?
I am looking through things and don't see it.

Also ... is there a reason you are attempting to build the container yourself?
You can just pull it from Docker Hub already built and ready to run. That's kind of the point.

Thanks, I see you or someone else already found the reference because the link works now. However, it was in this sentence:

• Browse the build tree to see the Dockerfile and other relevant information. The container is built from the mainline Citadel source plus some supporting code.

The reason why I build the container myself is because I install Spamassassin to connect it on localhost in Citadel.

When I try to search on the citadel web client it no longer returns recent search results data.. I can search and it returns historic information from emails but nothing recent (i.e in the last 4 weeks)

is there any way I can re-index or kick it back in to life?

thanks

Craig.