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[#] Wed Jun 14 2023 09:03:21 EDT from cerpjay

Subject: Alias Limit

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The documentation says there is no alias limit for a user, but I hit a limit.  I have 50 alias of ~20 characters each.  There appears to be a character limit for the alias field on the Admin window.  There is a row entry limit on the user address card.

How can I (more directly?) enter all my aliases?  I look forward to your reply.

 



[#] Wed Jun 14 2023 09:22:38 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: Alias Limit

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There is no limit to the number of aliases, but there is a finite amount of space to enter them. If you run into this limit you can try adding more to the global alias table, which is truly unlimited.

[#] Thu Jun 15 2023 10:05:28 EDT from cjonline

Subject: easy installed system - upgrade?

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hi, 

I have a working citadel set up that seems to be working ok (Citadel Server 972 with WebCit 974)


I would like to upgrade to the latest version of both server and webcit.  what is the easiest way of doing this without having to follow the  compilation process "make upgrade" etc?


Is there a way I can use the "easy install" method that will upgrade my system without losing data?


thanks

Craig.



[#] Thu Jun 15 2023 13:35:30 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: easy installed system - upgrade?

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If you performed the original installation using Easy Install, you can also upgrade using Easy Install.

It will detect that you have an existing installation and automatically perform an upgrade.

If you built it manually, just take a good backup, then delete everything except the following directories:
/usr/local/citadel/data
/usr/local/citadel/keys
/usr/local/citadel/files
/usr/local/citadel/messages
And then either run Easy Install or deploy the Docker container version.
Again, your existing data will be detected and it will perform an upgrade.

[#] Thu Jun 15 2023 20:20:52 EDT from cerpjay

Subject: Re: Alias Limit

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Excellent!  So, my interpretation is those are mutually exclusive, but mutually applicable fields.  In other words: no overlap and they both apply.



[#] Thu Jun 15 2023 21:00:40 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: Alias Limit

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The global list is processed first, and can expand aliases to multiple users.
After that is done, it looks up individual recipients (and/or rooms) using their own aliases.

[#] Fri Jun 16 2023 04:20:10 EDT from cjonline

Subject: Re: easy installed system - upgrade?

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thanks :)

 

Thu Jun 15 2023 13:35:30 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar Subject: Re: easy installed system - upgrade?

If you performed the original installation using Easy Install, you can also upgrade using Easy Install.

It will detect that you have an existing installation and automatically perform an upgrade.

If you built it manually, just take a good backup, then delete everything except the following directories:
/usr/local/citadel/data
/usr/local/citadel/keys
/usr/local/citadel/files
/usr/local/citadel/messages
And then either run Easy Install or deploy the Docker container version.
Again, your existing data will be detected and it will perform an upgrade.

 



[#] Sat Jun 17 2023 09:26:47 EDT from mahadyj

Subject: smart host issues

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Hi Team,

I'm hoping someone can help with some advice. I've recently installed citadel via easyinstall script but I'm struggling with outbound email. I'm running the server on a residential connections which blocks port 25 so I've setup a smart host in the format username:password@smtp_relay:port . I've also made sure my SSL certs are valid and I can receive emails. Outbound, the smart host keeps throwing an authentication error 535. There are no smart host logs unfortunately but I've turned debugging on the citadel server with the following output

I've run a packet capture but the traffic is SSL encrypted so I can see why its throwing an error. I have tested the smart host connection via telnet and I can connect and send emails.

Is there anyway I can see what username and password is being sent to the smart host? I'd greatly appreciate any advice or suggestions you have.

Thanks,

Jonathan

 



[#] Sun Jun 18 2023 11:21:15 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: smart host issues

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Is there anyway I can see what username and password is being sent to
the smart host? I'd greatly appreciate any advice or suggestions you
have.

I don't think so, but you might try putting smtp:// in front of your username and password.

Hint: it's using libcurl to send mail, so what you're sending it is an SMTP URL that is valid for curl. If you want to troubleshoot it from the command line, you can test using something like [ 

[ https://everything.curl.dev/usingcurl/smtp ]

and when you've got the correct SMTP URL for your setup, you can drop that back into Citadel.

[#] Sun Jun 18 2023 22:50:36 EDT from cerpjay

Subject: Re: Alias Limit

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Understood. :)  I can work with that.

Any plans to update the input fields so they are no longer the restriction to taking full advantage of truly unlimited aliases as per the documentation?  Time frame?



[#] Sun Jun 18 2023 23:11:01 EDT from cerpjay

Subject: Years Limitation?

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I have remote retrieval setup to poll my email at Godaddy.com every 900 seconds via POP3.  It pulls emails from 2005 to 2016 into Citadel; whereas my Godaddy.com email history extends to the present.  What to do?

 



[#] Sun Jun 18 2023 23:50:34 EDT from cerpjay

Subject: Missing Question/Setting Text

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What is the question being asked here?

 



[#] Thu Jun 22 2023 03:17:38 EDT from cerpjay

Subject: Re: Missing Question/Setting Text

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Sun Jun 18 2023 23:50:34 EDT from cerpjay Subject: Missing Question/Setting Text

What is the question being asked here?

 



What is the question being asked here (the red area)?  I look forward to your reply.



[#] Fri Jun 23 2023 10:41:51 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: Missing Question/Setting Text

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I have reviewed the code and can't figure it out, and the person who wrote it is no longer involved in the project.

This is one of the reasons WebCit is being rewritten. :(

[#] Fri Jun 23 2023 11:02:31 EDT from rmi00

Subject: Multiple Domains on one Citadel Install

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I have Citadel running on a Raspberry PI for my Dronesforhire.us and it works great.  I would like to add redpugtechsol.com to it as well.  Is that  something Citadel supports and if so the best practice for doing so as well as the certificate?

Thanks.

Ron



[#] Fri Jun 23 2023 13:43:06 EDT from LadySerenaKitty

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I keep getting the following in my /var/log/messages:

Jun 23 17:37:04 citadel citserver[52541]: housekeeping: WARNING: housekeeping loop has not run for 9 minutes.  Is something stuck?
Jun 23 17:37:17 citadel syslogd: last message repeated 64 times

I can't do anything! I can't read mail, can't check the outbound SMTP queue, NOTHING!  I can tell it to HALT but then I can't do anything else.  Grrr!  Halp?



[#] Fri Jun 23 2023 15:19:41 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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citadel citserver[52541]: housekeeping: WARNING: housekeeping loop
has not run for 9 minutes.  Is something stuck? Jun 23 17:37:17

I hate when that happens :(

Since I know you have developer skillz, please do this:

Stop citserver and run it in the foreground, in the debugger, with the `-x9` option to turn on maximum debugging to the console. Wait for it to get to the point where it's unhappy, and send a SIGINT with ctrl-c at the keyboard.
Then do `thread apply all bt` at the keyboard and post the output.

There are a bunch of housekeeping tasks and they all run in the same thread.
This will tell us where it's hung up.

[#] Fri Jun 23 2023 15:20:13 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: Multiple Domains on one Citadel Install

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I have Citadel running on a Raspberry PI for my Dronesforhire.us and
it works great.  I would like to add redpugtechsol.com to it as
well.  Is that  something Citadel supports and if so the best
practice for doing so as well as the certificate?

Citadel does this exceptionally well. Just add your extra domains to the server and add email addresses within that domain to your user accounts/.

[#] Mon Jun 26 2023 08:00:11 EDT from bully1987

Subject: Issue with Citadel Server on Debian 11.7, BDB0075 DB_PAGE_NOTFOUND: Re

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Hello,

i had an issue with my running citadel server. Server was install and running 3 Month without issue.

The installation is as follow:

OS: Debian 11.7 on Raspberry

Citadel : was install with the easy install script

Installation path /usr/local/citadel

On the installation Path is mounted a USB SSD Disk: mountpoint /usr/local/citadel

Last week i had an iussue with the USB Disk and the citadel folder was empty, with running services.

After stop the services , mount the disk again and start services the issues comes up.

The issues are:

1. Fetchmail can't deliver mails to smtp service:

fetchmail: Connection errors for this poll:
name 0: connection to localhost:smtp [::1/25] failed: Connection refused.
name 1: connection to localhost:smtp [127.0.0.1/25] failed: Connection refused.
fetchmail: SMTPconnect to localhost failed

2.Login as user is possible but it takes a long time and sometime it broken with message to contact system administor. ( :-D that's me  )

  If i try to send a mail ( internal or external ) the Message " Failure: [object Object]" pop's up.


3. No errors are found in logfiles !

   Only the following is found in syslog:

Jun 25 00:00:07 internet citserver[26404]: citserver[26404]: extensions: unix domain socket 'citadel.socket': registered.
Jun 25 00:00:07 internet citserver[26404]: citserver[26404]: extensions: unix domain socket 'citadel-admin.socket': registered.
Jun 25 00:00:07 internet citserver[26404]: extensions: unix domain socket 'citadel.socket': registered.
Jun 25 00:00:07 internet citserver[26404]: extensions: unix domain socket 'citadel-admin.socket': registered.
Jun 25 00:00:07 internet citserver[26404]: citserver[26404]: extensions: TCP port *:504: (citadel-TCP) registered.
Jun 25 00:00:07 internet citserver[26404]: extensions: TCP port *:504: (citadel-TCP) registered.
Jun 25 00:00:07 internet systemd[1]: citadel.service: Main process exited, code=killed, status=6/ABRT
Jun 25 00:00:07 internet systemd[1]: citadel.service: Failed with result 'signal'.
Jun 25 00:00:07 internet systemd[1]: citadel.service: Scheduled restart job, restart counter is at 6050.
Jun 25 00:00:07 internet citserver: libcitadel(unnumbered)

and daemon.log:

Jun 26 12:53:52 internet citserver[17746]: rssclient: using libcurl/7.74.0 OpenSSL/1.1.1n zlib/1.2.11 brotli/1.0.9 libidn2/2.3.0 libpsl/0.21.0 (+libidn2/2.3.0) libssh2/1.9.0 nghttp2/1.43.0 librtmp/2.3
Jun 26 12:53:52 internet citserver[17746]: extensions: TCP port *:25: (SMTP-MTA) registered.
Jun 26 12:53:52 internet citserver[17746]: extensions: TCP port *:465: (SMTPs-MTA) registered.
Jun 26 12:53:52 internet citserver[17746]: extensions: TCP port *:587: (SMTP-MSA) registered.
Jun 26 12:53:52 internet citserver[17746]: extensions: unix domain socket 'lmtp.socket': registered.
Jun 26 12:53:52 internet citserver[17746]: extensions: unix domain socket 'lmtp-unfiltered.socket': registered.
Jun 26 12:53:52 internet citserver[17746]: Existing database version on disk is 972
Jun 26 12:53:52 internet citserver[17746]: extensions: service DICT_TCP has been manually disabled, skipping
Jun 26 12:53:52 internet citserver[17746]: extensions: TCP port *:5222: (XMPP) registered.
Jun 26 12:53:52 internet citserver[17746]: citserver[17746]: main: changing uid to 110
Jun 26 12:53:52 internet citserver[17746]: main: changing uid to 110
Jun 26 12:53:53 internet citserver[17746]: citserver[17746]: context: session (SMTP-MTA) started from localhost (::1) uid=-1
Jun 26 12:53:53 internet citserver[17746]: context: session (SMTP-MTA) started from localhost (::1) uid=-1
Jun 26 12:53:53 internet citserver[17746]: citserver[17746]: rbl: ::1 [0.000017] none found
Jun 26 12:53:53 internet citserver[17746]: rbl: ::1 [0.000017] none found
Jun 26 12:53:53 internet citserver[17746]: citserver[17746]: db: cdb_store(8): BDB0075 DB_PAGE_NOTFOUND: Requested page not found
Jun 26 12:53:53 internet citserver[17746]: db: cdb_store(8): BDB0075 DB_PAGE_NOTFOUND: Requested page not found
Jun 26 12:53:53 internet systemd[1]: citadel.service: Main process exited, code=killed, status=6/ABRT
Jun 26 12:53:53 internet systemd[1]: citadel.service: Failed with result 'signal'.
Jun 26 12:53:53 internet systemd[1]: citadel.service: Scheduled restart job, restart counter is at 11387.
Jun 26 12:53:53 internet systemd[1]: Stopped Citadel Server.
Jun 26 12:53:53 internet systemd[1]: Started Citadel Server.

It looks like that there is an issue with the DB, right ?

How can i fix it, or can find better the issue to fix ?


Best regards

Bully1987



[#] Mon Jun 26 2023 17:44:56 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: Issue with Citadel Server on Debian 11.7, BDB0075 DB_PAGE_NOTFOUND: Re

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Jun 26 12:53:53 internet citserver[17746]: db: cdb_store(8): BDB0075
DB_PAGE_NOTFOUND: Requested page not found

Sounds like your system had a bad day. Run the `database_cleanup` script and you should be fine.

Why are you running fetchmail? Citadel has mail fetching built in.

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