Subject: Re: Changing a user password - only changes imap, not smtp
Sat Jul 31 2021 10:19:42 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar Subject: Re: Changing a user password - only changes imap, not smtpInteresting. I hate to be the one to say "the problem is on your end" but ... Citadel does not have any concept of different passwords for different protocols. The password for an account is the password for all protocols -- IMAP, SMTP, web client access, etc.
The only thing I can think of is perhaps the client is caching old credentials?
Or maybe you have something other than Citadel listening on port 587?
Thanks for replying, what you say makes sense.
I’ll try to set up his client on a fresh device so no there‘s no possibility of the passwords being cached.
There’s definitely only Citadel listening on 587 (goes away to hastily check!) :)
Subject: "citserver crashed on signal 11" if using run or install
Hi,
tried to use your "AppImage" today to install a fresh Raspberry Pi 4 with 4GB running following Raspian:
lsb_release -a
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID: Raspbian
Description: Raspbian GNU/Linux 10 (buster)
Release: 10
Codename: buster
cat /etc/debian_version
10.9
Used following image: citadel-932-armv7l.appimage
Independant using citadel-932-armv7l.appimage with run or install, the citadel start crashes with the following information and loops the start every second:
./citadel-932-armv7l.appimage -p 8088 -s 8444 run
ctdlvisor: Welcome to the Citadel System, brought to you using AppImage.
ctdlvisor: LD_LIBRARY_PATH = /tmp/.mount_citadeXGtRbm/usr/lib
ctdlvisor: PATH = /tmp/.mount_citadeXGtRbm/usr/bin
ctdlvisor: APPDIR = /tmp/.mount_citadeXGtRbm
ctdlvisor: data directory = /usr/local/citadel
ctdlvisor: HTTP port = 8088
ctdlvisor: HTTPS port = 8444
ctdlvisor: citserver running on pid=4882
ctdlvisor: executing /tmp/.mount_citadeXGtRbm/usr/local/citadel/citserver with data directory /usr/local/citadel
ctdlvisor: webcit (HTTP) running on pid=4883
ctdlvisor: webcit (HTTPS) running on pid=4884
ctdlvisor: executing /tmp/.mount_citadeXGtRbm/usr/local/webcit/webcit
ctdlvisor: executing /tmp/.mount_citadeXGtRbm/usr/local/webcit/webcit
ctdlvisor: pid=4882 exited, status=139, exitcode=0
ctdlvisor: citserver crashed on signal 11
ctdlvisor: citserver running on pid=4885
ctdlvisor: executing /tmp/.mount_citadeXGtRbm/usr/local/citadel/citserver with data directory /usr/local/citadel
ctdlvisor: pid=4885 exited, status=139, exitcode=0
ctdlvisor: citserver crashed on signal 11
ctdlvisor: citserver running on pid=4888
ctdlvisor: executing /tmp/.mount_citadeXGtRbm/usr/local/citadel/citserver with data directory /usr/local/citadel
ctdlvisor: pid=4888 exited, status=139, exitcode=0
ctdlvisor: citserver crashed on signal 11
ctdlvisor: citserver running on pid=4892
ctdlvisor: executing /tmp/.mount_citadeXGtRbm/usr/local/citadel/citserver with data directory /usr/local/citadel
ctdlvisor: pid=4892 exited, status=139, exitcode=0
ctdlvisor: citserver crashed on signal 11
ctdlvisor: citserver running on pid=5019
ctdlvisor: executing /tmp/.mount_citadeXGtRbm/usr/local/citadel/citserver with data directory /usr/local/citadel
ctdlvisor: pid=5019 exited, status=139, exitcode=0
ctdlvisor: citserver crashed on signal 11
ctdlvisor: citserver running on pid=5026
ctdlvisor: executing /tmp/.mount_citadeXGtRbm/usr/local/citadel/citserver with data directory /usr/local/citadel
ctdlvisor: pid=5026 exited, status=139, exitcode=0
ctdlvisor: citserver crashed on signal 11
ctdlvisor: citserver running on pid=5028
ctdlvisor: executing /tmp/.mount_citadeXGtRbm/usr/local/citadel/citserver with data directory /usr/local/citadel
After CTRL-C the following output appears:
^Cctdlvisor: caught signal 2
ctdlvisor: waiting for all child process to exit...
ctdlvisor: 5029 (Citadel Server) ended, status=139
ctdlvisor: waiting for all child process to exit...
ctdlvisor: 4883 (WebCit HTTP) ended, status=15
ctdlvisor: waiting for all child process to exit...
ctdlvisor: 4884 (WebCit HTTPS) ended, status=15
ctdlvisor: waiting for all child process to exit...
ctdlvisor: exit code 0
ps -ef | grep cit shows:
ps -ef | grep -i cit
root 13683 1 25 21:51 ? 00:00:00 /usr/local/citadel/citadel.appimage run -h /usr/local/citadel -p 8088 -s 8444
root 13688 13681 4 21:51 ? 00:00:00 webcit -x9 -h/tmp/.mount_citadeKf63qY/usr/local/webcit -p 8088 uds /usr/local/citadel
root 13689 13681 34 21:51 ? 00:00:00 webcit -x9 -h/tmp/.mount_citadeKf63qY/usr/local/webcit -s -p 8444 uds /usr/local/citadel
root 13694 13681 4 21:51 ? 00:00:00 [citserver] <defunct>
root 13696 3876 0 21:51 pts/0 00:00:00 grep -i cit
ps -ef | grep 13681
root 13681 1 0 21:51 ? 00:00:00 ctdlvisor run
root 13688 13681 0 21:51 ? 00:00:00 webcit -x9 -h/tmp/.mount_citadeKf63qY/usr/local/webcit -p 8088 uds /usr/local/citadel
root 13689 13681 2 21:51 ? 00:00:00 webcit -x9 -h/tmp/.mount_citadeKf63qY/usr/local/webcit -s -p 8444 uds /usr/local/citadel
root 14047 13681 5 21:51 ? 00:00:00 [citserver] <defunct>
root 14103 3876 0 21:51 pts/0 00:00:00 grep 13681
Using Citadel for several years meanwhile. Running one instance on a Rasperry Pi 3b that I installed with "Easy Install". But as you also provide an Image version, I thought giving this one a try. But it seems not to work for me.
If you need any furhter information, give me a note.
Cheers,
Garfield73
Just to give you a bit more information. After running systemctl stop citadel, the defunc pid disappears - as all the other citadel ones.
If I use then either ...run or do systemctl start citadel, the ps output looks similar to the one I pasted earlier - with different pid´s for sure.
Cheers,
Garfield73
That is the sort of results i got with the pre-release ( on both a PI 2 and a BPI - M3 ). But i didnt really have time to go into it deeper. I also assumed it was just something i was doing wrong and not systemic ( not uncommon )
Hi,
Did Easy Installation now again. That way works like a piece of cake. But wondering why the AppImage way didn´t work for me.
Thanks,
Garfield73
Hi,
After my pi installation tanked I installed latest onto our 20.04 server.
But we get this
This program was unable to connect or stay connected to the Citadel server. Please report this problem to your system administrator.
Read More... (this was the same as I got on the pi)
The status gives this:
$ service citadel status
● citadel.service - LSB: control citadel server start at boot time
Loaded: loaded (/etc/init.d/citadel; generated)
Active: active (running) since Mon 2021-08-02 08:52:36 UTC; 1min 13s ago
Docs: man:systemd-sysv-generator(8)
Tasks: 2 (limit: 2225)
Memory: 14.8M
CGroup: /system.slice/citadel.service
├─8492 /usr/sbin/citserver -d -x3 -lmail -t/dev/null
└─9216 /usr/sbin/citserver -d -x3 -lmail -t/dev/null
When I try too check configuration with sudo dpkg-reconfigure citadel-server
The wizard stops after I enter username.
Thanks for any help.
Hi,
After my pi installation tanked I installed latest onto our 20.04 server.
But we get this
This program was unable to connect or stay connected to the Citadel server. Please report this problem to your system administrator.
Read More... (this was the same as I got on the pi)The status gives this:
$ service citadel status
● citadel.service - LSB: control citadel server start at boot time
Loaded: loaded (/etc/init.d/citadel; generated)
Active: active (running) since Mon 2021-08-02 08:52:36 UTC; 1min 13s ago
Docs: man:systemd-sysv-generator(8)
Tasks: 2 (limit: 2225)
Memory: 14.8M
CGroup: /system.slice/citadel.service
├─8492 /usr/sbin/citserver -d -x3 -lmail -t/dev/null
└─9216 /usr/sbin/citserver -d -x3 -lmail -t/dev/nullWhen I try too check configuration with sudo dpkg-reconfigure citadel-server
The wizard stops after I enter username.
Thanks for any help.
Aug 02 09:02:34 server.xxxxco.uk webcit[665]: tcp_connectsock(127.0.0.1,504) Aug 02 09:02:34 server.xxxxco.uk webcit[665]: Trying IPv4 Aug 02 09:02:34 server.co.uk webcit[665]: connect() failed: Connection refused Aug 02 09:02:34 server.tco.uk webcit[665]: HTTP: 200 [0.010416] GET //landing?go=?failvisibly=1 Aug 02 09:10:35 server.o.uk webcit[665]: GET / HTTP/1.1 Aug 02 09:10:35 server.tco.uk webcit[665]: language found: en_GB Aug 02 09:10:35 server.to.uk webcit[665]: tcp_connectsock(127.0.0.1,504) Aug 02 09:10:35 server.tco.uk webcit[665]: Trying IPv4 Aug 02 09:10:35 server.co.uk webcit[665]: connect() failed: Connection refused Aug 02 09:10:35 server.co.uk webcit[665]: HTTP: 200 [0.001800] GET //landing?go=?failvisibly=1
Hmm. The compatibility of the AppImage doesn't seem to be as widespread as I hoped it would be.
I'm starting to wonder whether we should discontinue it before it causes more problems. Most of the work that went into it, can be re-used for a Docker version. That might be a better option.
Not a real fan of docker, but i suspect that may be better option in the long run for those that dont want to use easy install.
Tue Aug 03 2021 11:40:55 AM EDT from IGnatius T Foobar
Hmm. The compatibility of the AppImage doesn't seem to be as widespread as I hoped it would be.
I'm starting to wonder whether we should discontinue it before it causes more problems. Most of the work that went into it, can be re-used for a Docker version. That might be a better option.
Just did a fresh install using the easy install, having issues providing certificates for the webcit and citadel ssl authentication.
First, I deleted the /usr/local/webcit/keys directory and linked it to /usr/local/citadel/keys.
Then, I took an existing [domainname].all.pem file generated by ACME and used openssl to pull out the .cer, .csr, and .key files and copied them to the /usr/local/citadel/keys directory.
I restarted the server, but when I went to login again the certificate still reads as the "Certificate for *" with all the default values filled in.
I followed the directions at https://citadel.org/how_to_install_a_certificate_signed_by_a_recognized_certificate_authority.html
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
For clarification, I'm running Debian 10.10 headless on a Raspberry pi 4, apologies for not being more clear
So, the default certificate that Citadel issues is set to an unsupported encryption method - too small of a key. I am hazy on the exact details now - but I had a lot of problems until I figured that out and set the encryption key higher than the default - then all the problems went away. I may be shooting wildly in the dark here. I'm having trouble recalling exactly what the problems were.
For clarification, I'm running Debian 10.10 headless on a Raspberry pi 4, apologies for not being more clear
Then, I took an existing [domainname].all.pem file generated by ACME
and used openssl to pull out the .cer, .csr, and .key files and
copied them to the /usr/local/citadel/keys directory.
Can you post a directory listing of your /usr/local/citadel/keys directory?
I would like to see what it's doing.
Hello Everyone!
I have installed Citadel on my RPI 3+ with the latest 32-bit RPI OS using the easy install method. It worked well, except that all uploaded files became corrupt.
I compared an uploaded PDF with the original and it wasn't all gibberish, but there seemed to be extra data for some reason. I am booting off of an SSD, but have had the same problem using an SD card. I thought the SSL certificates might be the problem, but creating new ones didn't help.
I am going to try a different OS and see what happens.
If anyone knows off the top of their head why this might be happening, please let me know!
Thank you,
-Adam
Permissions on your /citadel/files directory. Try it - you don't have access.
Chown it and uploads will start working.
Hello Everyone!
I have installed Citadel on my RPI 3+ with the latest 32-bit RPI OS using the easy install method. It worked well, except that all uploaded files became corrupt.
I compared an uploaded PDF with the original and it wasn't all gibberish, but there seemed to be extra data for some reason. I am booting off of an SSD, but have had the same problem using an SD card. I thought the SSL certificates might be the problem, but creating new ones didn't help.
I am going to try a different OS and see what happens.
If anyone knows off the top of their head why this might be happening, please let me know!
Thank you,
-Adam
Hey all,
I'm using Citadel on Debian, and I'm running into a slight issue. Uploading attachments is fine and dandy, linking images is fine and dandy, but you can't upload for use inline.
Any ideas on where to start looking? I've tried digging thru stuff for TinyMCE but I think I just am misunderstanding where I should even be looking.
Thanks in advance!
Subject: Re: Trying to configure/use Citadel
Before, I had a similar situation due to pop-up blocks.
In webcit, using copy-paste works for me.
The Citadel logo works to.
Hey all,
I'm using Citadel on Debian, and I'm running into a slight issue. Uploading attachments is fine and dandy, linking images is fine and dandy, but you can't upload for use inline.
Any ideas on where to start looking? I've tried digging thru stuff for TinyMCE but I think I just am misunderstanding where I should even be looking.
Thanks in advance!
Subject: Re: Trying to configure/use Citadel
But it works in Thunderbird too.
Examples:
Copy+paste

Before, I had a similar situation due to pop-up blocks.
In webcit, using copy-paste works for me.
The Citadel logo works to.
On 8/16/21 1:15 AM, RiddickV wrote:
Hey all,
I'm using Citadel on Debian, and I'm running into a slight issue. Uploading attachments is fine and dandy, linking images is fine and dandy, but you can't upload for use inline.
Any ideas on where to start looking? I've tried digging thru stuff for TinyMCE but I think I just am misunderstanding where I should even be looking.
Thanks in advance!
Ah. So there's no specific Upload to use inline functionality? The copy/paste part works, but I'm trying to see if it will just attach an image and you can use it as part of your message, or not.
Thanks, though. Didn't know copy-paste worked until you brought it up.
In first message I use Firefox/webcit.
But it works in Thunderbird too.
Examples:
Copy+paste
image from https://www.citadel.org/logo-2020-website.png
On 8/16/21 12:04 PM, s3cr3to wrote:Before, I had a similar situation due to pop-up blocks.
In webcit, using copy-paste works for me.
The Citadel logo works to.
On 8/16/21 1:15 AM, RiddickV wrote:Hey all,
I'm using Citadel on Debian, and I'm running into a slight issue. Uploading attachments is fine and dandy, linking images is fine and dandy, but you can't upload for use inline.
Any ideas on where to start looking? I've tried digging thru stuff for TinyMCE but I think I just am misunderstanding where I should even be looking.
Thanks in advance!
Subject: Re: Trying to configure/use Citadel
I'm using Citadel on Debian, and I'm running into a slight issue.
Uploading attachments is fine and dandy, linking images is fine and
dandy, but you can't upload for use inline.
If you copy and paste an image into the WebCit editor, it *should* do the right thing. In this case, the "right thing" is that it gets converted to a data: URI and embedded in the text.
I do agree that this could be a bit more elegant but we are in the process of completely overhauling WebCit and the new version will definitely be more modern.