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[#] Mon Jun 20 2016 02:10:53 EDT from rat @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: End of the line for an old troll

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Sun Jun 19 2016 17:02:55 EDT from zooer @ Uncensored Subject: Re: End of the line for an old troll

I searched the user name "Curly Surmudgeon", it seems he was an angry person who made friends everywhere.

Understatement. An extremely polarizing figure made worse by his refusal to ever concede to defeat or admit that he was wrong. I wouldn't say he was an outright troll as he more-or-less genuinely (and often obsessively) believed in what he would argue for. 

For those who may remember the name, I went by Roadkill back in the day on here.

One of my last exchanges with him was about Ron Paul on Facebook. I kept trying to point out to Curly that Ron was nothing more than a grifter looking to pay out to his family using campaign funds despite having no chance in securing the nomination (Paul didn't even win his own district). He kept insisting that Paul was one of the last good ones in Government and nothing could truly sully his name... and being that I never come to a fight an argument without being prepared, I pasted my some 50 or 60 odd links about Paul's associations with the people who own Stormfront, etc... Individually nothing was terribly bad but as a whole, nothing was flattering. (He tried as hard as he could to deny the newsletters so I came prepared with links about everything BUT the newsletters, for example)

It was too much for him to consider, probably... given my relationship with him and having known him for nearly 20 years at that point. (And no, even in hindsight, I can't say he struck me as someone who would be a kiddie diddler. Some odd remarks here or there but nothing out of the line. He hid his secret well.) Well, he shut me down and defriended me on Facebook and emailed me basically saying, in not so few words...

"You should stop letting the government pay for the meds that keep you alive."

A lot more where that came from but that was the gist of it. The world is ending, the country will collapse, we're all doomed... but you might as well let yourself die first. 

My reply to him was to the effect of... "how would you appreciate it if this was something someone said to your daughter," and after much consideration due to his increasingly erratic and paranoid state... I told him to never contact me again. Fortunately, he did not.

Unfortunately, he was also one of my oldest friends and one of the first people I came out to. Some of us from the Sacramento BBS scene (Vector, Jetrock, Sinner, Moon Knight, few others I can't remember) all knew each other rather well (as well as we thought, apparently) and people know how small those circles can run. The fact that I can even say it was a dialup BBS thing does rather punctuate how far back we went.

I don't even remember what compelled me to google his name when I did and first saw the article about 3 years ago about his arrest under Operation Sunflower. The entire first two pages of the results at the time were about nothing but his arrest and court documents. So I checked back every now and then and just managed to search after a few months the exact day his verdict was announced. 

The DOJ put out an official release. Mostly the same as the article.

And at this point... I hope he rots. It takes a lot for someone to make me feel like he thoroughly betrayed a friendship and he managed to do so effortlessly. 

20 years max. Too bad he won't remember it as I'm pretty sure he'd been sliding into dementia for some time. 

[#] Mon Jun 20 2016 17:42:47 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: End of the line for an old troll

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There were some here who thought that he was mentally unstable. I just found him to be someone who was so persistent and demanding to win any argument he happened to get into that he harmed the medium itself. I don't recall when it first happened, but at some point someone randomly called him a pedophile, just some random insult that was tossed out, and he immediately came unhinged.
Big time. It was different from everything that had previously happened.
This time he totally lost his shit, and this time he was threatening to sue everyone involved, to seek damages not only in money but also ownership of the domain name -- he wanted us wiped out *and* off the Internet.

I guess it was some time in 2013 or 2014, some time after he'd alienated every other Citadel site operator by chastising them for not joining him in taking up arms against IGnatius Hitler Foobar and the Bigoted Religionist Army ... that I happened to be thinking about him for some reason and poked around on Google to see if he'd been up to anything lately, figuring I'd find some other place on the 'net that he would be pulling his usual antics.
That's when I discovered that he was being prosecuted as an ACTUAL pedophile.

It was surreal. There is no other word to describe it. Surreal.

Again, mixed feelings. Great to emerge victorious over the biggest troll of all time. Not so great to know that there were helpless victims.

[#] Tue Jun 21 2016 00:08:15 EDT from ax25 @ Uncensored

Subject: Re: End of the line for an old troll

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Thank you IG for looking the bull in the eye, and stopping quite an avalanche of hurt.  You are one of the good ones in my book.  You know that you have friends here, and other places, for being the sort of person you are, and surrounding yourself with that same tumultuous spirit.  Keep up the good fight.