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[#] Sun Sep 18 2022 20:28:59 EDT from zelgomer

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2022-09-18 22:45 from Nurb432 <nurb432@uncensored.citadel.org>
Man, this thing about the credit cards and a new ISO standard is
really bringing out the hypocrites.   "They are infringing on my
rights! Congress needs to get involved and make them stop"

Ya, lets open the door to fascism just because you f-ers are
hypocrites and dont understand how the constitution works or who it
applies to....

 

Yeah, a lot of gun people are like the weed voters. They care about one thing and one thing only, to the detriment of other rights.

Along this subject, even before news of that credit card thing came out, I recently decided I wanted a new one, and I'm going to get it from a local store I've never patronized before and pay with cash, so that this one can be as "off the grid" as it can be short of private sale (but in this case I want one new). Problem is, he doesn't have any in stock right now. I've popped in a few times to check and chat the guy up. The last time I thought, I've taken up this guy's time, it would be polite to at least buy some accessory that I could use. And what did I use to pay? Without thinking, the damn credit card. So now there's a paper trail of me at least having visited this store. Dammit!!

[#] Mon Sep 19 2022 07:29:44 EDT from Nurb432

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lol.

Oops :)



[#] Tue Oct 04 2022 11:29:02 EDT from Nurb432

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So SCOTUS decided not to bother hearing either of the bump stock cases presented to them. So, if you have one, its illegal. I think they are dumb, but id never say you shouldn't have one if you wanted it.
That is one thing i think our founders messed up on. If a case gets to the court, they should have been required to rule on it, and not be allowed to cherry pick.


[#] Tue Oct 04 2022 22:35:19 EDT from zelgomer

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2022-10-04 15:29 from Nurb432 <nurb432@uncensored.citadel.org>
So SCOTUS decided not to bother hearing either of the bump stock
cases presented to them. So, if you have one, its illegal. I think
they are dumb, but id never say you shouldn't have one if you wanted
it.


They are legal, the federal government is not. But yeah, I know what you mean.

[#] Wed Oct 05 2022 10:39:38 EDT from Nurb432

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No details but sounds like some law in a state or 2 that requires you to get liability insurance to own firearms was allowed to stand too..   so expect that nationwide soon.

 

i still say by end of this term we will have nothing ( guns, food, housing, energy, nothin )



[#] Wed Oct 05 2022 14:08:25 EDT from zelgomer

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2022-10-05 14:39 from Nurb432 <nurb432@uncensored.citadel.org>
No details but sounds like some law in a state or 2 that requires you
to get liability insurance to own firearms was allowed to stand
too..   so expect that nationwide soon.

 

i still say by end of this term we will have nothing ( guns, food,
housing, energy, nothin )


Unenforcible without a registry, though. I wonder how that will fly.

[#] Wed Oct 05 2022 14:48:20 EDT from Nurb432

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It will become part of NICS check.  Try are also trying again to push NICS for ammo purchase. And when you use your firearm, "Your use may have been justified so no charges will be filed for that, but we see here you didnt have the required insurance, therefore, jail, and liability lawsuits to bankrupt you"

 

 Besides, they have a registry in practice, and soon it will become 'official' for use. Just a matter of time. I know its illegal today, but that didnt stop them from building it.

Wed Oct 05 2022 02:08:25 PM EDT from zelgomer
Unenforcible without a registry, though. I wonder how that will fly.

 



[#] Wed Oct 05 2022 17:16:10 EDT from zelgomer

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2022-10-05 18:48 from Nurb432 <nurb432@uncensored.citadel.org>
It will become part of NICS check.  Try are also trying again to
push NICS for ammo purchase. And when you use your firearm, "Your use
may have been justified so no charges will be filed for that, but we
see here you didnt have the required insurance, therefore, jail, and
liability lawsuits to bankrupt you"

 

 Besides, they have a registry in practice, and soon it will become
'official' for use. Just a matter of time. I know its illegal today,
but that didnt stop them from building it.

There are ways to avoid pinging NICS. But yeah, I have no counter to your second point. That sucks. FJB.

[#] Wed Oct 05 2022 23:47:17 EDT from LadySerenaKitty

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Wed Oct 05 2022 17:16:10 EDT from zelgomer
There are ways to avoid pinging NICS. But yeah, I have no counter to your second point. That sucks. FJB.

#LetsGoBrandon



[#] Thu Oct 13 2022 14:02:44 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Most gun-grabbers are also baby-killers, so we should give them an ounce of their own medicine:

"IF YOU DON'T LIKE GUNS, DON'T GET ONE"

[#] Thu Oct 13 2022 16:52:09 EDT from zelgomer

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2022-10-13 18:02 from IGnatius T Foobar <ajc@citadel.org>

Most gun-grabbers are also baby-killers, so we should give them an
ounce of their own medicine:

"IF YOU DON'T LIKE GUNS, DON'T GET ONE"



Oh I've used that one a few times, for some reason it doesn't take. I sat in a fast food resturant with a co-worker arguing over whether teachers should be ALLOWED to arm themselves if they CHOOSE to, NOT "armed" like MSM likes to call it. I just could not get past this mindset that "but somebody could take it and use it against them!!" Of course the whole conversation they had no idea I was packing (and so there is no opportunity to steal if you never know it's there), and I couldn't make that point because I do it against company policy.

[#] Thu Oct 13 2022 16:59:04 EDT from Nurb432

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One of the reasons i CCW, even tho OC is fully legal here.

Thu Oct 13 2022 04:52:09 PM EDT from zelgomer
 (and so there is no opportunity to steal if you never know it's there)

 



[#] Sat Oct 15 2022 15:32:17 EDT from zelgomer

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West Virginia SC says laws against defacing serial numbers are unconstitutional! Of course it'll be appealed, so we'll see where this goes. But I think this has big deal ramifications (other than the immediately obvious that it's my property and I should be able to deface it however I want). E.g., how do you possibly justify laws against spoopy ghost gun home builds if you can't justify the enforcement of serial numbers?

[#] Sat Oct 15 2022 16:05:42 EDT from Nurb432

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I think it will end up being like ones made without a serial at home.. :  If in your personal legal possession, you can remove them. But a shop has to re-serialize if they take possession. ( sale or repair )

 

Of course if you do remove them, its going to be harder to prove it was not stolen.  "we will just hang on to this while we research"  and you never see it again.



[#] Sat Oct 15 2022 20:37:29 EDT from zelgomer

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2022-10-15 20:05 from Nurb432 <nurb432@uncensored.citadel.org>
I think it will end up being like ones made without a serial at
home.. :  If in your personal legal possession, you can remove them.
But a shop has to re-serialize if they take possession. ( sale or
repair )

 

Of course if you do remove them, its going to be harder to prove it
was not stolen.  "we will just hang on to this while we research" 
and you never see it again.


Sure, you can decide for yourself whether to keep it or not. I think that separate from that, I'm more excited thatthis has potential for big government foiling side effect.

[#] Sun Oct 16 2022 07:19:50 EDT from Nurb432

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i still say it wont matter much by end of this term.

they are coming at it in all directions, including using commerce as their ( willing? ) pawns, where the constitution does not apply.

 

Id like to see this liability insurance mandate that is coming to all of us get to SCOTUS, soon.. 



[#] Wed Nov 30 2022 09:55:17 EST from Nurb432

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Biden admin is pushing the ATF hard to reclassify semi auto firearms as "easily convertible to full auto" so that most everything falls under the NFA.  Does not require congressional oversight. Its all administrative rulings.

And ATF is working on compiling records of everyone who bought an AR pistol, to come door to door and verify they are not SBRs after their fake 'amnesty registration period' runs out.

 

 



[#] Wed Nov 30 2022 13:24:27 EST from zelgomer

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2022-11-30 14:55 from Nurb432 <nurb432@uncensored.citadel.org>
Biden admin is pushing the ATF hard to reclassify semi auto firearms
as "easily convertible to full auto" so that most everything falls
under the NFA.  Does not require congressional oversight. Its all
administrative rulings.


I'm surprised that hasn't happened already. I've had my pistol laying in front of me in pieces before and wondered, "if I just remove this disconnector here... doesn't it become a slamfire machine pistol?"

Strike down the NFA.

[#] Wed Nov 30 2022 13:42:04 EST from Nurb432

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No one on that side of the isle had the guts to do it.  This admin does not give a damn what the ramifications are, since they didnt get voted in to office in the first place.

Wed Nov 30 2022 01:24:27 PM EST from zelgomer
I'm surprised that hasn't happened already. I've had my pistol laying in front of me in pieces before and wondered, "if I just remove this disconnector here... doesn't it become a slamfire machine pistol?"

Strike down the NFA.

 



[#] Wed Nov 30 2022 21:25:59 EST from zelgomer

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2022-11-30 18:42 from Nurb432 <nurb432@uncensored.citadel.org>
No one on that side of the isle had the guts to do it.  This admin
does not give a damn what the ramifications are, since they didnt get
voted in to office in the first place.

I don't want it repealed. That implies it had some legitimacy. I want SCOTUS to strike it down

I know, I know. I also want an X-wing and to never work again.

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