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[#] Sun Oct 11 2015 23:57:38 EDT from ax25

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In '85, they would allow total data loss / having to go back to the paper recipe cards as a good solution when the tape drive had no backup :-)

[#] Sun Oct 11 2015 23:59:01 EDT from ax25

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Sun Oct 11 2015 11:57:38 PM EDT from ax25

In '85, they would allow total data loss / having to go back to the paper recipe cards as a good solution when the tape drive had no backup :-)

Which just means "half baked backup / "the cloud"" is the solution..

[#] Sat Nov 07 2015 08:25:55 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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The correct spelling is: The Cloud (tm)

Do not taunt The Cloud.  The Cloud is your friend.  The Cloud provides all good things to computer everything everywhere.  No chin, no legs.

[#] Sat Nov 07 2015 12:03:49 EST from zooer

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The Cloud™

® ©2016


A Liniux user should know how to ™.

[#] Sun Nov 08 2015 10:09:06 EST from vince-q

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Sorry, didn't know about that.
But then, I've never used Liniux, so.... <evil grin>

[#] Sun Nov 08 2015 23:25:28 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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Is that like aluminum/aluminium ?

[#] Tue Nov 17 2015 21:16:14 EST from fleeb

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I read this thing ESR wrote (and to which IG responded) concerning feminazis trying to make a case for leveraging a legal battle against certain influential people in the industry for not being more 'inclusive', instead of the merit system.

That is, these folks would prefer that if someone black, female, and transgendered submitted code to Citadel, it should be preferred over dothebart's efforts regardless of whether or not it would work better.

I wish they would expend their efforts actually training black, female, transgendered people into writing really good software. They might actually contribute something of use to society.

[#] Wed Nov 18 2015 21:32:39 EST from zooer

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That is affirmative action,

[#] Fri Nov 20 2015 21:43:20 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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Nope ... affirmative action is the forced inclusion of bad code into software projects simply because it was written by people in "protected classes" (what they used to call minorities).

Fuck that noise.  Write good code and it goes into the build, I don't care what color your skin is or what your genitals look like.  Write shitty code and it gets thrown in the trash, even if you look like I do, talk like I do, worship like I do, and fuck like I do.

Software ... at least open source software ... is a true meritocracy that has so far remained untouched by social justice warriors.  It demonstrates quite clearly that we as a society really are capable of living in unity if the special interest fuckheads would just quit their demagoguery.  SJW's seriously need to die in a car fire.  Every one of them, from the stupid cunt chanting mindless slogans on a college campus all the way up to the enemy of Western civilization currently occupying the white house.

[#] Mon Nov 23 2015 14:38:22 EST from LoanShark

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we had one of those here. she loves to gripe on twitter about "women in tech" and their treatment.

couldn't code her way out of a wet paper bag, either.

look inward before you gripe outward, folks.

[#] Mon Nov 23 2015 19:02:59 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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But isn't that always the case with SJW's? Those of us who are *civilized* have largely moved past discrimination. The ones who make it their life mission to eradicate social injustices are a bunch of whiny brats who either can't survive on their own merits and so play the race/sex/etc card, or in some cases are paid professional agitators.

[#] Tue Nov 24 2015 18:01:18 EST from dothebart

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yea, had one of that too while I was working at 7val.

Her claim was, that she could program C (they told her so at the college she came from...). But she didn't even know what a pointer was. by any means. So I told her that with that amount of C she may be able to do by now she wouldn't be able to walk into a store and purchase an apple.

"But she's shuch a good fit for the team - social competence" and such. I was given an  admonishment for stretching my competencies. So they hired here to waste half a year of venture capital on her to notice what I said in the first place and fire her again.


I'd say I've worked with several female programmers, but outstanding talent? well...

[#] Fri Jan 08 2016 07:38:58 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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The point is not to make a decision about whether women are better/worse programmers than men. The point is to simply disregard gender (and race, and everything else) and focus on merit alone.

[#] Fri Jan 08 2016 12:09:59 EST from fleeb

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Shouldn't matter. He. She. He-she. She-he. Whatever.

[#] Thu Jul 06 2017 16:46:26 EDT from s3cr3to to IGnatius T Foobar <>

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Those "things" read your post... and now they take over mozilla.
Oh my heavens.

[#] Thu Jul 06 2017 19:22:47 EDT from Ladyhawke

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Being female, I completely agree with you, IGgy and Fleeb.  

Frankly, I don't want a job, promotion, award, etc. simply because I'm female or Jewish, or <insert other "class" here>.  I want to earn my success, just like anyone else.

That said, I also do not want to be prevented from receiving my just due on the above if I *have* earned it - simply because I'm female or Jewish, or <insert other "class" here>.

Right now, there is far too much of the latter - and far too many people who still expect "favors" in return...regardless of merit (including at my current place of work).

If I've earned the damn promotion, then promote me; if I have not, well then give it to someone who DID earn it.  But don't give it to someone else who did NOT earn it simply (and worse, obviously) because I'm a woman and/or <insert other "class" here> and the other person is not a woman and/or <insert other "class" here>.

Rule of thumb I wish my employer would grok: If a significant percentage of female leadership of a given unit/division/company has deserted ship in a relatively short time span, that is usually a clue that something odd is occurring in that area.