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[#] Sat Aug 24 2013 11:12:27 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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And of course, pretty much every smartphone can be a DLNA node as well. All I'm really missing is a receiver on my main screen (a glorious 32" standard definition CRT...)

[#] Sat Aug 24 2013 11:45:19 EDT from vince-q @ Cascade Lodge BBS

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Well, I've actually began to think the unthinkable: it is about time to consider replacing the speaker systems in my home theater.

Of course, this does not include my two Velodyne collectables - more about that later.

Currently the front-mains are Polk Monitor 10s; the front and rear effects are Polk Monitor 4s, and the center channel front -- just a run-of-the-mill Paradyne (which will be 'surviving the cut' in this round of speaker replacement).

Once the decision is made, the shopping/listening will begin, most likely in two locations: Chico CA and Sacramento CA. Unlike the Days of Olde in New Jersey, this locale is incredibly underserved in high-end audio, which is also another story for later.

How long will this take? If history is any predictor, about 2 years. Hell, it took me 18 months to settle on the last subwoofer (Velodyne side-firing 18" - very fast, *very* loud when needed) that serves the living room well. It is, of course, 'augmented' by the Velodyne ULD15 downfiring monster directly in back of the main listening position - that thing literally shakes the room, incredible during "those" movies and pipe-organ stuff. It is a "hits you in the gut" experience both for music and those moments when the movie wants to scare you into the next life. A marvelous piece of hardware about which I cannot say enough Good Things.

So why am I babbling about all of this?

Simple. I'd love it if this actually sparked a discussion on "what is out there right now" in terms of good speakers for reasonable cost. OK, so I'm being vague on that...

Good speakers: two main-channel speakers and four effects speakers (L and R front; L and R rear). Each must be absolutely rock solid in their ability to reproduce classical music, opera, rock, R&B, folk acoustic, jazz, films (BluRay, DVD, and HDTV) with impeccable clarity, dynamic range and frequency response. Efficiency is not overly critical since I have massive amounts of audio amplification to "throw at them."

Reasonable cost: for all six speakers, I'd consider anything up to ten grand to be reasonable, anything under 5 grand to not be worth the time unless it is an estate sale from a known audiophile, or a private offer to me from someone I know).


So let the discussion/debate/argument/flame-war begin!

[#] Wed Aug 28 2013 10:16:55 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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No takers? I was hoping to learn something :(

Although I'm interested in knowing the reason why such a high-end system is in need of replacement.

[#] Wed Aug 28 2013 16:40:48 EDT from ax25 @ Uncensored

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I thought AM stereo was grand (but only with the moon-rock needle).



[#] Wed Aug 28 2013 18:55:31 EDT from vince-q @ Cascade Lodge BBS

Subject: The New Toy

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Wed Aug 28 2013 07:16:55 PDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored
No takers? I was hoping to learn something :(

Although I'm interested in knowing the reason why such a high-end system is in need of replacement.

The current speakers are all roughly 25 years old; several have had either their midrange driver(s) or tweeters replaced, some more than once, but none in the past 15 years since I upgraded to real amplifiers that deliver lots of power and do not clip at my normal listening level (which to most people is considered **loud**). I want my music to sound as it did from the podium. And that takes lots of volume.

In any event, I have completely changed my mind; the existing speakers *are* staying. I will be looking to buy another four Polk Monitor 4 units, and two used high-end stereo amplifiers. So if anyone wants to sell me something, now is the time to let me know.

The reason is that I've decided to buy a New Toy. The New Toy is going to be Yamaha's latest release, the CX-A5000 pre-amp processor. Once I've done this I may still have the Yamaha A-1000 and if I don't use it as a trade-in, it will be available for sale - it will *not* go on eBay. Either right here or via craigslist.

 The New Toy features 8 HDMI inputs, lots of optical, coaxial and standard ("RCA") inputs for every conceivable A/V source, and... here is the best part, an 11.2 deck with a full set of eleven XLR outputs.

THIS is the "box" I've been hoping they'd make for the last 20 years.

And... it ***will**** be mine!



[#] Thu Aug 29 2013 11:17:56 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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high end and yamaha in one sentence? you 've gotta be kidding.



[#] Thu Aug 29 2013 12:16:11 EDT from vince-q @ Cascade Lodge BBS

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Aug 29 2013 8:17am from dothebart @uncnsrd (Uncensored)
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high end and yamaha in one sentence? you 've gotta be kidding.


Not kidding in the least. Of course, the stuff of which I speak will **never** be found in a "big box" store, so if you wander into your local BestCry and can't find the unit of which I was writing, be not surprised. Try visiting a high end (audiophile) store. Yamaha makes Good Stuff. The prices START at roughly 2 grand a box. The consumer grade stuff is "good for the consumer" but caap for the professional musician or audiophile wanting a good listening experience.

And remember, we are talking about a box (the CX-A5000) that is nothing more than a preamp/processor and a switch for the rest of the system. I use Bryston preamps, Carver amps (just try and **find** those today - Carver has founded a new company and the name escapes me), Polk speakers, and Velodyne subwoofers (2). The interconnects are mostly Tributaries with one or two pairs of high-grade Monster Cable left over from the days when they truly made good interconnects.

Having actually held the baton and conducted in the Academy of Music (Philadelphia) I can tell you with absolute authority that when you are in my listening room, the Saint Saens' Organ Symphony (Symph #3) sounds EXACTLY as it did on the podium back in Philly. Right down to being able ot hear the rush of air into the organ bellows about 8 measures prior to the first organ entrance 8 minutes in. Yes. It all makes me very happy. It should. It cost almost as much as the house containing it at the time the house was bought!

[#] Fri Aug 30 2013 07:53:38 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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The A-1000 is a "receiver" (processor+amplifier) with 5.1 speaker outputs on board. Are you currently just leaving the speaker outputs unused and running the Yamaha's pre-outs to the Carvers?

Getting music to sound realistic (or "as it did from the podium") takes more than just volume. Aside from fidelity, which is obvious, it's mostly about dynamic range. You need the volume so that the loud parts are loud, and the quiet parts are audible.

The radio station I listen to in the car is, as many are these days, available online. I usually find myself plugging my smartphone into the car and tuning in online, because the people who run radio broadcast systems tend to compress the daylights out of everything. I just don't like the way that sounds!

[#] Fri Aug 30 2013 08:14:54 EDT from Freakdog @ Dog Pound BBS II

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Fri Aug 30 2013 07:53:38 AM EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored Subject: Re: The New Toy
 
The radio station I listen to in the car is, as many are these days, available online. I usually find myself plugging my smartphone into the car and tuning in online, because the people who run radio broadcast systems tend to compress the daylights out of everything. I just don't like the way that sounds!

I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that the compression occurs prior to the broadcast...including prior to the streaming-out-to-the-internet part.

If I'm correct with the above, then how is listening online any different than tuning in via FM (or HD-Radio)?



[#] Fri Aug 30 2013 09:13:41 EDT from vince-q @ Cascade Lodge BBS

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Fri Aug 30 2013 04:53:38 PDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored Subject: Re: The New Toy
The A-1000 is a "receiver" (processor+amplifier) with 5.1 speaker outputs on board. Are you currently just leaving the speaker outputs unused and running the Yamaha's pre-outs to the Carvers?

Getting music to sound realistic (or "as it did from the podium") takes more than just volume. Aside from fidelity, which is obvious, it's mostly about dynamic range. You need the volume so that the loud parts are loud, and the quiet parts are audible.

Almost. I am leaving the Yamaha's speaker outputs unused and just using the pre-outs. However I am also "programming" the Yamaha to just send flat output to the pre-outs (no equalization, and 0dB of signal level adjustment after the DSP is applied to the group of channels (as in 7.2 etc).

I then take the pre-out signal to each of the Bryston two-channel pre-amps, and from those to the Carvers, and from those to the relevant Polk Monitor set (Monitor 10s for the L/R front mains, Monitor 4s for the front and rear effects), and finally the center channel speaker whichc is handled by the Yamaha internal pre-amp directly to its Carver, which is a 200w/channel unit in bridged mode.

You are absolutely right. It is ***much*** more than "just about volume." The true beauty of this arrangement, and the massive (relatively) amounts of power available is that each channel has, at *my* normal listening level, a **minimum** of 12dB of dynamic headroom available, which is what I meant a few messages back when I mentioned that the system "never clips" -- ever.

And with all of that firmly in mind, I have what I want: specifically, the Mahler 8th sounds, in my living room, as it sounded on the podium when I conducted it "oh so many years ago."

As does Wagner's Ring; Verdi's Otello, Aida and the Requiem; and "oh so many" others.

Lots of fun then and now!



[#] Fri Aug 30 2013 09:29:17 EDT from vince-q @ Cascade Lodge BBS

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My major gripe about the Yamaha A1000, and one of the reasons I am so eager to move to their new "pre-amp only" unit, is the way the '1000 treats the Front Presence channel pair.

Of all the 7 non-subwoofer channels on that unit, the Front Presence L/R **cannot** be sent directly to outboard pre-amps. One is **forced** to use the speaker outputs. This is the shortcut they took because, according to their zone representative, they did not have room in the unit to do that because of the amplifiers that co-exist inside the box. So they came up with "consumer bullshit" to explain it saying, basically, that Front Presence is a "minor" effects pair and could be handled by the onboard amps assigned to those two channels in a completely satisfactory manner.

Which, of course, completely ignores the high-end audiophile market completely.

For all its bells and whistles, for all the "cantabile" of which the A1000 is truly capable, I and many others view that shortcoming as a fatal flaw. Something which I have had to tolerate for the past year or so, working around it with very expensive attenuators via a recording studio unit that converts amplified signal level to line level (made, incidentally, by Behringer). And from *that* unit we go to the Bryston stereo pre-amp. Works well, but should not be needed. And in the new unit, it will not be needed.

After a lot of "screaming and complaining" from many folks like me, they finally listened to their "roots" as it were, and are now delivering an item truly deserving of audiophile attention.



[#] Thu Sep 12 2013 12:44:21 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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When you look inside any mid to high end amplifier, you typically see one large coil, even if it's a stereo or surround-sound amplifier. What's the deal with that? What does that coil do and why doesn't the amplifier need one for each channel?

[#] Thu Sep 12 2013 13:12:20 EDT from vince-q @ Cascade Lodge BBS

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Without seeing an actual schematic I'm only guessing, but it most likely is involved with voltage regulation in the power supply section of the unit.



[#] Thu Sep 12 2013 14:04:16 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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the large coil usualy is the "ring kern transformator"

don't know the english term for that.

http://www.pollin.de/shop/t/MDk2OTA5OTk-/Stromversorgung/Transformatoren/Ringkerntransformatoren/Ringkern_Trafos_Serie_HBL.html?gclid=CPjm-7S4xrkCFQZc3godxkMAJg

its like the regular ac/ac converters, just that the two coils aren't separate, but on top of each other - thats more efficient.

you don't want switching power supplies - since that introduces noise.



[#] Fri Oct 04 2013 22:22:33 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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So, if I see "one big coil" it's actually just $NUM_CHANNELS smaller coils stacked up on top of each other? That would seem to make more sense.

[#] Fri Oct 04 2013 23:41:38 EDT from vince-q @ Cascade Lodge BBS

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Oct 4 2013 7:22pm from IGnatius T Foobar @uncnsrd (Uncensored)
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So, if I see "one big coil" it's actually just $NUM_CHANNELS smaller
coils stacked up on top of each other? That would seem to make more
sense.



Depends. If the coil/combo is in the power supply it might be $NUM_AMPLIFIERS instead of $NUM_CHANNELS.

[#] Mon Dec 09 2013 18:56:46 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Dear lazyweb:

There is now a television in the Mouse House that supposedly supports DLNA.

What's the best DLNA server for Linux (native or cross-platform, doesn't matter)

Non open source solutions need not apply.

[#] Tue Dec 10 2013 08:06:12 EST from the_mgt @ Uncensored

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Try http://minidlna.sourceforge.net/ Seems rather lightweight and is very easy to set up.

I tried it on an LG bluray player only, most movies work fine. Sometimes a movie does not run, but these are sometimes old and odd avi containers which had issues on real PCs too.

Audio is odd, I can browse all my soundfiles by category, title, etc, but no music plays, ever... I do not care much since it is broadcasted via mpd and mt-daapd too, so most of the time, one of my devices plays what I want.



[#] Tue Dec 10 2013 12:46:30 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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the most recent logitech squeezebox server can do DLNA; however its focused on audio, so mp3's will most probably work, while movies may not ;-) YMMV



[#] Wed Dec 11 2013 07:50:39 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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MiniDLNA looks like the answer. Thank you the_mgt for the suggestion. It installed easily from the Debian repository (the open source world invented the "app store" of course), configured easily, and my "Smart TV" found it without having to configure anything on the client side.

My home videos (all digital since 2006) look fantastic on the new screen.
The camera's onboard analog-out always made the picture look pretty lousy, which makes sense, they probably used the cheapest components they could find for that.

And yes, I'm that cheap, it really did take until 2013 for us to finally buy our first HDTV.

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