Thought for the day.
I have some places in my home where I want to install LED strip lighting, which requires 12 volt transformers. One place is in a bathroom, where I also want to install an in-wall Bluetooth amplifier. So I got to thinking: would it make sense to install a central 12 volt supply in the home and wire it out to the locations where it is needed?
Is this a thing? Cars, boats, and RVs have 12 volt distribution, so why not a house?
Mm. I don't know the answer, but doesn't low voltage have difficulty traveling very far unless the wire is extremely thick? I'd think that resistance would eat up the low voltage.
Again, I'm very knowledgeable about electricity. I only know that in the house I'm building, the power company wants to step down its high voltage near my house, not hundreds of feet away at the street even though that would be a lot less expensive.
Correction: Again, I'm ***NOT*** very knowledgeable about electricity.
POE level 3 (I think that is what it is called or something like that), puts out a maximum of 13 volts. So you could just run cat 6 everwhere, and hook up POE injectors and run it that way. Then if you need to later you can use them as regular network, or what have you.
I spent a lot of my childhood around boats, where there was always a 120 volt system and a 12 volt system. The 12 volt system did use thick wires.
Remember that watts = volts * amps, so for the same amount of power, if the volts are lower the amps are higher. It becomes a question of what's going to cost you more, the loss from a transformer being less than 100% efficient or the thicker cables.
Telecom equipment runs on -48 volts. It's the standard for their stuff.
Their racks are always fitted with a -48 volt power supply (usually a few of them). The "UPS" is just a four-pack of batteries. It actually works really well, which is why equipment that can be used within a telecom facility is often available with your choice of power supplies: 100-240VAC or -48VDC. Some number of years ago there was a big push to move computer equipment to -48VDC so that the power supplies that are in servers etc. don't have to deal with as much loss. This push was killed by the fact that data centers would have to install giant copper conductors everywhere, and that was right around the time the price of copper started climbing again.
Subject: Nostalgia day!
I found this old photo of my computer-filled basement from 2003-2004 or thereabouts.
There's all sorts of wonderful stuff in there. Top left: a cheap wireless router (used only as an access point) and my DSL modem. The machine beneath it, between the stack of tapes and the UPS, is that era's iteration of uncensored.citadel.org. My phone system is there too, along with a dumb terminal I still have. My actual desk with the main screen is off to the left and just out of the shot. In the center are my printers and a thin client I used from time to time. Under that desk you can see stuff that was useless even then: a CB radio, a dot matrix printer, and a Mac.
I'm still a server hugger, but everything now fits into a single 2U rack server thanks to virtual machines. I know people who still maintain home labs but I don't know why. This was a lot of fun but I don't exactly miss it.
Subject: Re: Nostalgia day!
Dang. That brings back a lot of memories. Though the phone (wired including handset) hanging there amuses me too.
Subject: Re: Nostalgia day!
The ONT which terminates my home's fiber connection from Verizon has a built-in UPS, with a 12 volt battery inside. Over the past weekend I spliced into that battery connection and ran it outside the enclosure as a 12 volt power take-off to be used for "various things". I added a 1 amp fuse just in case something ever gets shorted out, so it doesn't destroy the battery. Right now it's just powering a bluetooth amplifier for the in-wall speakers I installed in my bathroom, but in the future I might add a small distribution board for other loads.
When you say heavy use do you mean digital data stuff or phone calls?
I think if you did nothing but talk on the phone all day it should keep up.
I'd gladly have a phone double in depth if it extended its battery life.
External batteries sell for a reason. Lot's of people kill their phones fast.
That shouldn't be a thing in this day and age.