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[#] Tue May 29 2018 12:47:08 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Now the hard part is standardizing on a new name for it. :) I've heard it called the "Super key" (an homage to the Space Cadet keyboard), or the logo key, or the meta key, or (particularly among Mac users) the command key.

Microsoft will probably always call it the Windows key (using phrases such as "press Win-Shift-S to get a screenshot") and if Microsoft continues to follow in IBM's footsteps they'll continue to have desktop leverage for about another 20 years, so it would be difficult to force a renaming of the key.
However, having noted that the key has become less and less stylized over the years, as the Windows logo has become less stylized -- note how it was originally the Nyan Cat logo with the trail behind it, then it was the flag shaped logo, and now it's the quadrisected trapezoid logo they've been using since 'doze 8 -- I propose that we call it the "window key" and keyboard manufacturers should render it as a quadrisected square. Subtle change, but one that takes away all vendor specificity, similar to the "menu key" which appears on the other side of the keyboard.

[#] Tue May 29 2018 14:57:53 EDT from fleeb

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I have heard 'logo key' as well. That's probably not a bad name for it, although I'd prefer 'super', as I'd prefer to not have any homage to Microsoft involved at all.

[#] Tue May 29 2018 17:00:18 EDT from zooer

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The "Compose Key", not to be confused with the 'Compost key'.



[#] Wed May 30 2018 09:26:48 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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If I press a "logo key" I expect the computer to start up a LOGO environment.
Where's that damn turtle when you need him?

[#] Fri Jun 01 2018 17:47:30 EDT from kc5tja

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The one thing Mac got right: it's a key that's used to give commands to the computer, so call it the "command" key.

[#] Fri Jun 01 2018 18:16:58 EDT from zooer

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PC computers had a SysRq key, it was shared with the Print Screen key.



[#] Sun Jun 03 2018 10:06:28 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Are we going to go there?

The whole row ... Print Screen, Scroll Lock, and Pause ... no modern software uses them.  Yes, I know you can hit Scroll Lock to make Excel scroll in a different mode, but I've never seen anyone do that, and I know how to use the "Magic SysRq Key" in Linux, and almost no one uses that either (let's face it: the reason that key combination was chosen is because the key has no other use).  These keys should have been removed along with PF13 through PF24 when the PC keyboard became intended solely for the PC.

They're in an unfortunate place, though: even on a "tenkeyless" (no number pad) layout, the place where those keys go is still there, so there's no point in removing them.  Maybe that's the reason why keyboard manufacturers have persisted in including them.  How about we get rid of those three keys, put the Window and Menu keys there, and make the space bar bigger?

I'm just going to have to buy a bunch of Cherry switches and build my own console.  Yeah you heard me, a console, with a fixed screen, and a non-floating keyboard, and whale skin hubcaps, and all-leather cow interior, and big brown baby seal eyes for headlights...  (Sorry, switched modes there ... my turn to shower *poof*)



[#] Sun Jun 03 2018 14:24:11 EDT from wizard of aahz

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IG - Make a good console and I bet there would be a business there.

[#] Mon Jun 04 2018 18:27:13 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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The plethora of retro-style case options available for people to put Raspberry Pi rigs into suggests that it's a real thing. One option is to buy an old broken computer and stuff new guts into it. But even that's getting expensive, with broken Apples selling for $100 or more, and old PETs (which would be ideal) selling for many hundreds of dollars.

I've got an old Sony monitor in the garage which would have been the *ultimate* envy of my nerd friends in high school if I had it on my Commodore 64, or even among those Apple II users who weren't cool enough to have Commodores.
I really want to hook it up to something. Does anyone manufacture PCIe CGA cards?

[#] Thu Jun 07 2018 16:39:19 EDT from wizard of aahz

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That looks like an awesome toy. But is it want or need Ragnar?

[#] Thu Jun 07 2018 17:49:19 EDT from Ragnar Danneskjold

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Is there a difference?

[#] Fri Jun 08 2018 05:56:37 EDT from fleeb

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Heart defibrillators are awesome toys. The way you can make someone dance if you can remote control them provides entertainment second to none.

[#] Fri Jun 08 2018 09:59:40 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Thu Jun 07 2018 04:04:07 PM EDT from Ragnar Danneskjold

Why do you need a portable directory server?  Don't you have a couple of Active Directory machines sitting behind the glass somewhere?



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