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[#] Fri Apr 25 2014 12:50:31 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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I never heard of River View. Googling it didn't help. (Am I allowed to

say "Googling" on this BBS?)

Of course. But the moment you say "Bing it" you will be laughed out of the universe.

[#] Tue May 13 2014 10:34:19 EDT from Shazam

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I heard of Bing, but I had to Google it to remember what it was.

Shlomo has an interview for this Saturday evening. His tutor is trying to learn with his every day this week to help prepare him and the school pricipal has sat with him and will sit with him to help prepare him. My biggest concern now is that he not come over as too tired, since it will be after Shabbat goes out, and that's not till about 9pm earliest and he tries to go to bed usually about 9. He likes to get up early like me.
I've talked to him that during the interview it is not appropriate to to attempt to tell jokes, or to speak excessively in any way. I told him not to speak too much because he has a hard time staying focused and I don't want him to go off on inappropriate tangents. I told him to keep good posture and make eye contact a lot, to smile, and to be careful not to complain about ANYTHING. I should see if I can get him to speak to the Rebbe in third person, I hear my husband talk to Rabbis like that and it sounds very respectful.

[#] Wed May 14 2014 08:44:30 EDT from fleeb

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May 13 2014 10:34am from Shazam @uncnsrd
I heard of Bing, but I had to Google it to remember what it was.

That's priceless. All the better because it's entirely plausible that someone would do that.

[#] Thu May 15 2014 00:23:35 EDT from ax25

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Tue May 13 2014 10:34:19 AM EDT from Shazam @ Uncensored

Shazam, it sounds as if you are trying to raise my son.  He has the same foibles, but I was mostly the same way growing up.

I know you will do the best for him.  Keep posting as I will try to do the same.

[#] Fri May 16 2014 11:04:26 EDT from Shazam

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Word for word out of my 3-year old's mouth yesterday:

Right, mommy, we don't say fuck? Right? And we don't say damn it? And we don't say bloody hell?

All of which is hilarious as long as it's someone ELSE's 3 year old.
Of course, he learned it all from Shlomo.

[#] Fri May 16 2014 11:10:21 EDT from fleeb

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OTOH, how else do you learn which words to avoid without actually using them?

[#] Fri May 16 2014 15:10:30 EDT from wizard of aahz

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And we don't say ...

*&$@(#*&$%(*)($*@#*^$*&^ either!

[#] Sun May 18 2014 20:07:07 EDT from fleeb

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Heh, but occasionally, we do say (.)(.).

[#] Tue May 20 2014 11:52:33 EDT from Shazam

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I knew this place was called "uncensored" for a reason

[#] Tue May 20 2014 12:00:35 EDT from fleeb

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Doing my part.

[#] Thu May 22 2014 09:43:52 EDT from Shazam

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My sister-in-law is looking into a yeshiva in Chicago that specifically caters to ADHD kids. Even though I'm not sure that that is what's "wrong" with him, or if he really is ADHD, I don't think that's his biggest issue. I just learned of a place that offers social skills groups. I wish I'd heard of that years ago.
My sister-in-law is talking about if Shlomo is accepted to this school in Chicago, and if she and my brother move to Chicago, then they can be Shlomo's home base out there. I would love Shlomo to spend more time with my brother, I'd love to see him grow up to be like my brother. But it's all theoretical, it depends on my sister-in-law finding a good nursing program out there and my brother finding a job there.

[#] Fri May 23 2014 14:59:14 EDT from vince-q

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ADHD is probably the most mis-diagnosed affliction in existence.

"Kid is disruptive in class" -- ADHD
"Kid is always daydreaming in class" -- ADHD
"Kid is not socializing on the playground" -- ADHD

...and so on. And WRONG.

An equally valid reasoning for those three examples, as well as many more that are not in that list, is that the kid is gifted, intelligent, and BORED.

Instead of giving the kid drugs, give the kid better instruction, advanced work, and in the majority of instances the "disruptive" behavior stops and the kid discovers the World of Knowledge!

I know. I have personally done this and personally seen it work ***many*** times in my 31 year career in education.

If this is "your kid" get the kid into a better class; if that requires going to a better school, do it. And if the kid is in a public school and the public school can not offer this alternative at no cost to you, most (if not all) states in the US **require** that the local school district foot the bill for the cost of going to the new school - even to paying tuition.

[#] Fri May 23 2014 15:04:02 EDT from fleeb

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"Kid is drooling on the homework assignment" -- ADHD
"Kid is stealing incadescent bulbs from lamps and using them as light-sabres" -- ADHD
"Kid is mocking me openly because I don't understand the work I gave them" -- ADHD
"Kid is performing impromptu neurosurgery on a mouse he found in the chemistry lab" -- ADHD

[#] Fri May 23 2014 15:04:25 EDT from fleeb

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Maybe all the mad scientists in the world were misdiagnosed with ADHD.

[#] Sat May 24 2014 10:29:24 EDT from vince-q

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Kid is bored.
Challenge Kid mentally. And to "get through to kid" use TERROR - worked great for the Nuns. The Nuns used terror on me (and everyone in all my classes) and it turned me in to a future National Merit Scholar, 1510 on the SAT, etc. etc. etc. (and that was back when 1600 was the SAT maximum score).

Today I no doubt would have been diagnosed ADHD and given a bunch of pills to pop for my entire school experience, leading to a life of unemployment, listless TV watching etc.

Somehow I think the way the Nuns did it was better.
"Politically correct"? Absolutely not.
Leading to the desirable end-result? Beyond doubt.

Thomas Aquinas taught us that the end never justifies the means.
The Nuns taught us that what he said does not apply to Nuns.

Terror is THE best educational motivator there is.
It works.

[#] Tue May 27 2014 15:36:13 EDT from Shazam

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Are we talking terror over the uncertainty of the future?

[#] Fri May 30 2014 16:30:14 EDT from dothebart

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the other sort of  lullaby:

[#] Sun Jun 01 2014 17:00:25 EDT from fleeb

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I could see my sister helping Rayne to fall asleep to that.

[#] Mon Jun 02 2014 17:58:57 EDT from triLcat

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It sounds like there are some real issues, particularly with social skills, and it sounds like it's not an issue of him being so incredibly smart that he's bored out of his mind.

I don't know if ADHD is the right direction, but a school that caters to kids who are a bit 'different' might help him get on track.


[#] Tue Jun 10 2014 13:23:42 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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More kids than ever now have "some sort of spectrumy thing" going on. I'm more willing to believe that, since I've seen it. But any diagnosis of ADHD is wrong. Lazy parents and teachers just want a magic pill that makes the "problem" appear to go away.

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