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[#] Fri Feb 05 2016 13:32:08 UTC from zooer

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(sigh) I want to wish happy birthday to anyone having a birthday in the next 365 days.  (Not counting anyone born on Feb 29th, phuque those people.)



[#] Fri Feb 05 2016 16:04:02 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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Hmmm.. those people who were hatched might also feel left out.

Lady Gaga wishes to have a word with you.

[#] Mon Feb 08 2016 21:55:00 UTC from mo

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I'm with Fleeb: feck em! Whoever there are ! :)

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[#] Wed Feb 17 2016 05:13:44 UTC from wizard of aahz

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Why not just tell them to die in a car fire?

[#] Thu Feb 18 2016 03:32:34 UTC from ax25

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It this what we are talking about?



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[#] Sat Feb 20 2016 03:54:24 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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I'm not sure where to post this, so ... what the hell, right here in the Lobby is fine.

A while ago, we decided that our family motto is "This family sucks at listening."

In order to make nice plaques and such, it obviously has to be translated into Latin. The babel fish gives "sugit hoc familia audiendo" but somehow I doubt that's a translation that actually makes sense. Does anyone here know Latin well enough to come up with a translation that matches the intent of the source phrase?

[#] Sat Feb 20 2016 12:47:09 UTC from zooer

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Wha?  I am sorry, I think my family holds the title of worst family for listening.  How do I know?  Except for my new grand-nephew I am the only male in the family.  There is a lot of talking but no listening.



[#] Sat Feb 20 2016 12:55:13 UTC from zooer

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To answer your question, I think the biggest problem is with the word "suck"  It probably doesn't have the same meaning when translated.  Google translate translated your latin phrase back to "suck family listen"

 This family sucks at listening....................Sugit hoc familia audiendo.
 This family is horrible at listening.............Quod horrendum est, ad genus audiendo.
 This family is terrible at listening..............Haec familia audiendo atrocior.

I like the use of "horrendum"

 



[#] Sat Feb 20 2016 16:26:35 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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That's essentially why a translation is needed by someone who knows the language rather than a computer.  Literal translations will always use "sucks" to mean "applies inward pressure."  Take, for example, the original text of Lysistrata which contains the line "Prurimus libidine, ut brevissime dicam."  In college I read the play in English, where it contained the translation "I'll make it short; they're dying to get laid."  I asked the professor how they could have ended up with a translation containing an English colloquialism.  He said that it's not a literal translation but the Latin would have been something equally as crude.

And that's what I'm looking for.  The fish translates "This family is not good at listening" to "Non est bonum hoc genere audio" which looks pretty straightforward, but I want a Latin word or phrase which carries the same mild crudeness that "sucks" does in English.



[#] Sat Feb 20 2016 23:13:19 UTC from zooer

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"El Vomitus."

I think Teller of Penn & Teller taught Latin before his second career, you could ask him but he doesn't speak.



[#] Mon Feb 22 2016 15:33:56 UTC from fleeb

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I feel like 'ineptus' is the closest thing to 'sucks' in Latin, for the sense of it. At least, for the form of it you intend... that someone sucks at doing something, per this:

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ineptus

My Latin is rusty, though.

[#] Tue Feb 23 2016 04:51:45 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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That could work.  "Hoc familia ineptus audiendo" isn't a perfect translation, but it has the right "flow" to sound like a profound Latin motto.  Thanks for the assist!



[#] Tue Feb 23 2016 06:47:41 UTC from ax25

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Fun stuff.  This misses the mark because of the reasons given in prior posts, but is fun to translate:

at hoc lactaverunt familia audiendo

"I suck at listening to family"

Thanks for the short lesson in Latin via google translate, and for educating me on why I am glad I did not have to learn Latin.  It gave me time to learn differences between different (languages / implementations) of BASIC and machine languages for the Z80, 8080, and begrudgingly the 6502.



[#] Wed Feb 24 2016 15:46:46 UTC from zooer

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I don't know if the "I" is the problem, the family has problems listening to other members of the family.

Audite hoc familia lactaverunt.  



[#] Thu Feb 25 2016 17:16:02 UTC from vince-q

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2016-02-22 23:51 from IGnatius T Foobar
That could work.  "Hoc familia ineptus audiendo" isn't a perfect
translation, but it has the right "flow" to sound like a profound
Latin motto.  Thanks for the assist!


I like that one. Might not be the "best Latin" but it carries the mood and literally rings of authenticity.

Compare with:
"Hic est enim calix Sanguinis mei."


Commonly translated in most versions of the Roman missal as "This is the chalice of my Blood."

Close, but neither Romans nor Arabs in the time of Christ had the concept of "chalice" as in The Church.

Calix was CUP. Period.

But trust me, at every Latin Mass I have celebrated, this rings like the Word of God:
"Hic est enim calix Sanguinis mei;
Novi et aeterni Testimenti; Mysterium Fidei;
Quid pro vobis et pro multis efundetur - in Mei memoriam FACIETIS"

The rubric calls for it to be sais "sotto voce" (quietly). I just never could do that, and never did. It is a PRONOUNCEMENT. A Declaration.

Yes, sometimes even The Church doesn't quite get it just right... ;)

[#] Mon Feb 29 2016 17:05:31 UTC from zooer

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Fri Feb 05 2016 08:32:08 AM EST from zooer

(sigh) I want to wish happy birthday to anyone having a birthday in the next 365 days.  (Not counting anyone born on Feb 29th, phuque those people.)



I still stand by my statement.



[#] Mon Mar 07 2016 13:24:50 UTC from wizard of aahz

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I think there may be a Happy Birthday in order.

[#] Mon Mar 07 2016 13:39:29 UTC from zooer

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Yes, but what order?



[#] Mon Mar 07 2016 19:52:13 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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Last birthday first, first birthday last.



[#] Mon Mar 07 2016 22:44:24 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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Hey ... where has fleeb been? It's been a couple of weeks.

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