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[#] Wed Oct 08 2014 12:40:02 EDT from LoanShark

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I'm not a Unity expert, but is there a way to create an icon in the dock thingy as a window that just refuses to un-minimize?

[#] Wed Oct 08 2014 12:53:22 EDT from fleeb

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I experimented a tad today.

You can still put an icon in the status bar at the top of the desktop (or wherever you put it), you just have to do it with a different API.

So Unity's approach to solving their perceived problem was to embrace Microsoftian thinking, and say 'not-invented-here', then create their own version of the gtk_status_icon api but 'do it better' I guess.


[#] Wed Oct 08 2014 13:02:35 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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If they thought they did it "better" they should have at least exposed the "old" API so stuff didn't break.

Desktop environments with no taskbar/statusbar are st00pid anyway.

(Mario from Glove & Boots looks at Windoze 8 and/or Unity and says: "This is STUPID.")

[#] Wed Oct 08 2014 13:56:21 EDT from fleeb

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I realize I'm biased, in that I had already gone to the trouble of choosing a particular toolkit with the idea that I would write-once-work-where-I-want only to have Unity fuck it up for me. Still, it seems like a better approach would have involved isolating what they felt was wrong with gtk_status_icon and work towards iteratively fixing that instead of breaking the API altogether with something completely new.

But, eh, it's probably someone's Special Project.

[#] Wed Oct 08 2014 14:05:14 EDT from fleeb

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AppIndicator... that's the Unity thing: tor-app-indicator.html

[#] Wed Oct 08 2014 19:44:39 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Yeah, that. The "we know best" approach, screwing both users and programmers (see also: Windows 8, 9, 10...)

[#] Thu Oct 09 2014 16:35:45 EDT from the_mgt

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Wed Oct 08 2014 13:02:35 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored
Desktop environments with no taskbar/statusbar are st00pid anyway.

They are stupid and useless OCD shit. If a program/daemon has something to say while I am not using it, it should say it with a decent, unintrusive "popup" like message. If not, it should vanish from my view. But thats just my opinion.

[#] Thu Oct 09 2014 19:11:45 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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I disagree. Status bars have been around since pretty much the beginning of video computer displays, and they're useful.

[#] Fri Oct 10 2014 00:09:20 EDT from ax25

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No status bars.  Just do giant green on screen display overlay letters (so there is no chance of missing them), and finally pop up Clippy to make sure they know they need to take action.

[#] Fri Oct 10 2014 08:33:58 EDT from fleeb

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Well, if I were doing this right, I'd play Night On Bald Mountain while they're recording, and silence it while they aren't, as an indicator. To trigger recording/not-recording, I'd use an RYM interface to avoid pop-ups altogether.

[#] Sat Oct 11 2014 01:35:40 EDT from ax25

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I got you on the blast / no blast bit, but what the is RYM?

[#] Mon Oct 13 2014 09:34:18 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Heads up, Penguinistas:

If anyone is having trouble with Flash in the latest version of Google Chrome, it seems to be a known issue. It can be fixed by extracting the contents of a Chrome 36 package, and copying the two files in the "PepperFlash" directory into your Chrome 37 installation.

[#] Mon Oct 13 2014 10:08:26 EDT from fleeb

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Read Your Mind

[#] Mon Oct 13 2014 11:14:29 EDT from zooer

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looks for the Chrome 36 package... Don't know where they hide that.

Looks at my version number.... Version 38.0.2125.101 (64-bit)

I think I am good.... maybe

[#] Tue Oct 14 2014 07:55:01 EDT from dothebart

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hm, this seems to be a diamond picked out of the lxer room:


[#] Wed Oct 15 2014 18:31:58 EDT from roue <>

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wait ... install a package by automatically executing a shell script you wget from the internet as root? oy.

[#] Thu Oct 16 2014 06:14:34 EDT from dothebart

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apt-get install sysdiag

worked for me.

[#] Thu Oct 16 2014 22:33:22 EDT from ax25

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You probably are not a candidate for the Citadel easy-install either.

[#] Thu Oct 16 2014 23:26:10 EDT from ax25

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Just did a full install of Slackware 14.1 from a set of CD's.  Nice to be able to get a fairly recent install to do some work without having to rely on a set of repositories on the Interwebs sometimes.  I kinda miss rawrite'ing a boot and root floppy though.

[#] Fri Oct 17 2014 04:29:09 EDT from dothebart

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hm, I've left slackware behind me in the 90'ies, since it tends to become unmaintainable after a while.

My debian installations tend to last decades meanwhile.

Even though some of them are running sid or testing, only has stable.

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