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[#] Fri Jun 25 2021 00:47:04 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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So, the "crazy, elderly, wealthy man who loved bath salts and hookers," 

Is absolutely the mainstream media narrative of him - that anyone who has followed him more closely knows is a misleading one. He certainly was eccentric and erratic - but he was also fairly outspoken opponent of globalists, of oppressive government. He was pretty pro-libertarian, and tended to support, fund and promote the dissemination of information leaks that were damaging to the status quo. The funny thing is, HIS narrative was that he wasn't a drugged out trick hanging out with hookers - that he was being framed - and he sounded very rational, logical, and credible in these claims when you were hearing it from his own mouth (or his own writing, as the case may be). 


I've known a lot of spun people in the depths of drug induced paranoid delusions (no pun intended)... He did not sound like that. 

So - you called me a Statist in another post - here, your tone seems to indicate that you dismiss the idea that State actors or other people in power engage in conspiracies to get rid of people that are inconvenient to them. 

Do you believe that State and other powerful actors do not engage in assassination covered up to look like accident on a regular basis - that the people who believe this happens frequently are just tin-foil hat conspiracy theorists who want to believe the world is more sinister than it really is? This isn't leading to anything - I don't have a preconceived response to the answer, either way. I'm just trying to figure out where you are - because most people who think I'm a Statist also think the State conducts all *kinds* of shady shit - and tend to be far more conspiratorial-minded than I am. 

Russian operated bit-coin based pump-and-dump scams operating out of Spain is a very interesting angle though. 

 



Thu Jun 24 2021 21:06:13 EDT from zooer

What is the reason for the big bad people to off him?  He was a crazy, elderly, wealthy man who loved bath salts and hookers. (not that they are a bad thing) He was pumping crypto.  
I have been following him for a while, he is an interesting person. If he was on the ballot in 2020, I might have voted for him, everyone else was horrid.

"They" had plenty of time to shank him in prison, no one would have thought anything about it.  An old wealthy American gets stabbed in a shitty Spanish prison, no one would blink an eye.

Now the questions are:
What about his wife?
More importantly, what about Mcaffee's associate that was arrested on the same charges?

 

How they found him:
https://nypost.com/2021/06/24/john-mcafee-hideout-traced-to-ghost-hotel-with-a-bitcoin-farm/
In one of his tweets, he spoke about a Russian person he knew in prison.  See... it was the Russians again!



 



[#] Fri Jun 25 2021 07:23:04 EDT from Nurb432

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He used to work pretty close with the government for decades ( his software ) so he had the opportunity to be in the 'right places'

Before he went crossed over to weirdo land and few wanted anything to do with him, being super wealthy and a household name he would have rubbed elbows with a lot of powerful people.  And you 'learn things' doing that. 

He claimed to have a lot of dirt on a lot of people.

He 'outed' the establishment in public.  Not with details and nothing we didnt already know, just a general wagging his finger at them, but he did show he had the guts to wave his fingers on the record, and if he did have actual dirt, he would have been a threat. Perhaps he did have it, perhaps he didnt. We most likely will never know. But if the powers that be thought he did, they may have taken action. All it takes is a belief that you are a threat, and you are treated as one. 

Or he may have just lost it gave up and took the easy way out.  But from what we know of his last few days there, he didnt seem to be on that train, and had not been in the past.  ( I totally agree that he was on the nut train, but not the suicide train )

Thu Jun 24 2021 09:06:13 PM EDT from zooer

What is the reason for the big bad people to off him?  He was a crazy, elderly, wealthy man who loved bath salts and hookers. (not that they are a bad thing) He was pumping crypto.  

 



[#] Fri Jun 25 2021 09:51:18 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Isn't it obvious? John McAfee was murdered by Peter Norton.

[#] Fri Jun 25 2021 10:50:02 EDT from Nurb432

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LOL

I had forgot about them/him. 

Fri Jun 25 2021 09:51:18 AM EDT from IGnatius T Foobar
Isn't it obvious? John McAfee was murdered by Peter Norton.

 



[#] Sun Sep 19 2021 13:02:58 EDT from Nurb432

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Choosing bitcoin was the first mitake. Now that 'speculators' got a hold of it, its too unstable to be considered a 'useable currency'. Its almost like they wanted this 'project' to fail. 

 

https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/09/17/el-salvador-bitcoin-law-farce/



[#] Thu Oct 21 2021 22:44:03 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Well yes, but the larger picture is that crypto is interesting not because it is digital, but because there is no government holding the fiat who is capable of inflating the money supply.

Traditionally, investments such as gold and silver have been used as hedges against hyperinflation. With hyperinflation looming ahead on the road and crypto now in the picture, things could be different. Silver is basically just an industrial metal now. Gold is still the perennial favorite, but crypto is rising faster than gold, and this could result in the demonetization of gold.

Obviously there is some amount of wishful thinking here. Wouldn't it be great to have a single currency for the whole world that can NOT be manipulated by any government, including the Hitlerunited Hitlernations.

[#] Sun Feb 13 2022 08:08:58 EST from Nurb432

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Any of you guys use jaxx for a wallet?  If so, have you noticed a delay in updates from the blockchain the last couple of weeks?

Reason i ask is i have a couple of Ether ASIC miners running in a shared pool, and the net effect is i get payout every 12 hours or so.  The pool is paying out as expected, and i see the transactions hitting the blockchain ( and not being moved a 2nd time somewhere else, which would explain things as id have been compromised ) but jaxx has not shown one transaction since the 20th.  2 different installs ( one on PC on on Phone ).

Since the funds ARE there, i wont panic as i could always get to them another way, but its odd that jaxx has dropped the ball for 2 weeks, almost 3..  



[#] Sun Feb 13 2022 08:17:02 EST from Nurb432

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I forget which state it was, but one of ours has announced they have created some sort of coin |with millions of transactions a second, and of course we control so its safe".

The Fed desperately wants to convert to digital currency, but of course one they control, no freedom allowed here.  It would get them total control of who can buy what, from whom and know every transaction since it will be linked back to you, personally ( aka - IRS involvement ).  I assume it would be one where ALL keys are pre-created, but it would prevent them from creating more out of thin air like they do now with 'money'.

 

Thu Oct 21 2021 10:44:03 PM EDT from IGnatius T Foobar Subject: Re: el salvador bitcoin
Well yes, but the larger picture is that crypto is interesting not because it is digital, but because there is no government holding the fiat who is capable of inflating the money supply.

 



[#] Tue Feb 15 2022 00:15:50 EST from ParanoidDelusions

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They're convincing the youth that NFTs are a bad idea, too. They've already got a strong anti NFT movement going with the youth - and their... idealistic about it - you can't reason with them about how NFTs make sense in a virtualized world and actually empower creators to be able to transfer ownership of items they create. 

I use sim racing as an example. Without NFTs - you can just COPY and alter a vehicles code... for free - so there is nothing at stake - because there is no INVESTMENT. 

But with NFTs - you can actually build all the components - and in order to be able to be assembled into a sim racer - they would have to be verified by NFT... so, you can start setting up build rules on sim race cars - and it is verifiable, easily - by the NTF tokens of the modules used - that the car meets the ruleset criteria... and then you can have a sim race that has the... authenticity... of a real world race. 

It is just one example - People aren't *getting* it. If you buy a digital plot and a digital house in VR - right now... you can pretty much literally just "cut and paste" it over and over again. All of it. If they're all tied to NFT tokens - you create a tangible thing - that can be copied - but can't be reproduced. 

I saw someone else use the example... there are lots of prints of Monet paintings, of the Mona Lisa... but the original is the ORIGINAL. Being able to make a high quality COPY is nothing new... but verified authenticity as an ORIGINAL is something we do not have with digital creations - and NFTs bring that to the table. 

And that DOES generate *value*. 

And it is tied into Crypto... and that is where they're going after it... the "environmental cost" of decrypting the crypto on an NTF is what they've got them all pissed off about - and some vague idea that Disney is going to use NFTs to screw artists. 

Which Disney will certainly TRY to do - but I think NFTs give artists more opportunity to tell Disney to SCREW themselves than to be screwed BY ze maus. 

Thu Oct 21 2021 22:44:03 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar Subject: Re: el salvador bitcoin
Well yes, but the larger picture is that crypto is interesting not because it is digital, but because there is no government holding the fiat who is capable of inflating the money supply.

Traditionally, investments such as gold and silver have been used as hedges against hyperinflation. With hyperinflation looming ahead on the road and crypto now in the picture, things could be different. Silver is basically just an industrial metal now. Gold is still the perennial favorite, but crypto is rising faster than gold, and this could result in the demonetization of gold.

Obviously there is some amount of wishful thinking here. Wouldn't it be great to have a single currency for the whole world that can NOT be manipulated by any government, including the Hitlerunited Hitlernations.

 



[#] Tue Mar 01 2022 17:16:35 EST from Nurb432

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crypto crackdown coming.    Russia is going to get around being shut out of SWIFT by using crypto..    dont let a crisis go to waste. 



[#] Wed Mar 02 2022 01:33:05 EST from ParanoidDelusions

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They were already on a crusade against it. That may be exactly what this is about. They don't like Crypto because it is an economy they can't control through central banking - whereas Russia loves Crypto for that exact reason. 


Tue Mar 01 2022 17:16:35 EST from Nurb432

crypto crackdown coming.    Russia is going to get around being shut out of SWIFT by using crypto..    dont let a crisis go to waste. 



 



[#] Fri Mar 11 2022 13:52:27 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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That's the exact value of crypto, or at least decentralized crypto. I read somewhere that only Bitcoin is decentralized and every other crypto is controlled by someone -- is that true? It would seem that the real value is in having a truly neutral currency that a bad actor such as the US government cannot inflate.

I'm surprised they haven't come down hard on it already, using some flimsy excuse like counterfeiting laws or somesuch. I trust the blockchain more than I trust the government.

[#] Fri Mar 11 2022 15:09:04 EST from Nurb432

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Some crypto is centralized but all the popular public ones, are not.  Remember too not all crypo is about 'money'. So it gets sort of fuzzy.

Only reason they have not come down hard yet, is it serves a purpose still.  i think part of it was to get people used to the idea with zero risk on their part, then swoop in and create their own after general 'acceptance' of the concept. Another is i bet many in the legislature see it as get rich scheme once people started playing futures games with it ( which ruined it my opinion ), or safe parking of funds outside prying eyes.  Plus its hard to stop. Sure, they can ban exchanges, but they cant easily ban crypto itself. Just means you cant convert it into fiat easily.  But stopping a hooker from accepting coin for a BJ is about impossible. 

Even where i work, we are trying to figure out ways to incorporate blockchain to protect citizen data, in a transparent sort of way.

Fri Mar 11 2022 01:52:27 PM EST from IGnatius T Foobar
That's the exact value of crypto, or at least decentralized crypto. I read somewhere that only Bitcoin is decentralized and every other crypto is controlled by someone -- is that true? It would seem that the real value is in having a truly neutral currency that a bad actor such as the US government cannot inflate.

I'm surprised they haven't come down hard on it already, using some flimsy excuse like counterfeiting laws or somesuch. I trust the blockchain more than I trust the government.

 



[#] Fri Mar 11 2022 18:55:31 EST from ParanoidDelusions

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That whole McAfee in a Russian "ghost hotel" where they were mining bitcoin... 

Bitcoin *is* the currency of the underground. That is the excuse they'll use to shut it down. Terrorism, human trafficking, drugs , arms dealing, everything on the darkweb is bought with crypto. 

The people who own and trade the most in crypto are not Linux MMORPG neckbeards running crypto-mining setups in their home who will brag to you about how they made $150,000. 

You understand why they run them in a ghost hotel, right? Because the power consumption *looks* like a fully booked hotel, and they have a built in laundering method - the rooms are always booked, the hotel is always at full occupancy, the electrical is always high enough that it makes sense - but there isn't ANYONE there. 

Except for John McAfee and a Russian who is actually a Ukrainian - who runs the machines. 




[#] Fri Mar 11 2022 19:02:24 EST from Nurb432

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Problem with bitcoin ( and similar ) is its not truly anonymous. The ledger is traceable. It was never designed to be anonymous.

Monero, is not traceable, only verifiable.  *that* one the governments really hate.



[#] Sat Mar 12 2022 16:48:16 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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Not being traced is a pretty tall order. All I care about is revoking the government's license to print money.

[#] Sat Mar 12 2022 17:21:04 EST from Nurb432

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But, mining isn't illegal, yet. Just creating it isn't laundering anything. 

I suppose might be 'security thru obscurity' so no one breaks into steal miners ( or change configs.. ) but in general there is no reason to hide it.  In a few years, perhaps.. 

Fri Mar 11 2022 06:55:31 PM EST from ParanoidDelusions


You understand why they run them in a ghost hotel, right? Because the power consumption *looks* like a fully booked hotel, and they have a built in laundering method - 



 



[#] Sun Mar 13 2022 11:06:33 EDT from darknetuser

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2022-03-11 13:52 from IGnatius T Foobar
That's the exact value of crypto, or at least decentralized crypto. I

read somewhere that only Bitcoin is decentralized and every other
crypto is controlled by someone -- is that true? It would seem that

the real value is in having a truly neutral currency that a bad actor

such as the US government cannot inflate.

I'm surprised they haven't come down hard on it already, using some

flimsy excuse like counterfeiting laws or somesuch. I trust the
blockchain more than I trust the government.



I remember watching some senatorial board arguing what to do about Bitcoin back in the day. The position of most people in it seemed to be "We cannot ban this and let foregin powers take advantage of this technology while we sit idle."

Sure, there was a lot of talk about regulating and taxing it, but the general meeting showed they were much more open than, say, my own shithole country.

[#] Thu Apr 14 2022 17:24:02 EDT from TaMeR

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> revoking the government's license to print money

Yes, that is the objective here.

However, if used correctly Bitcoin can be somewhat private.

If you use the right wallet, every transaction you make will have a new public address. It's not like Monero, but a lot better then CBDCs or even ETHer.



[#] Thu Apr 14 2022 17:43:57 EDT from Nurb432

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Yes, private, but not totally un-traceable.  ( at least not that i have seen )

 

 



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