Pump and dump.

Sat Apr 19 2025 16:22:23 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

I wish I understood how meme coins work. From looking it up I still can't tell. Can someone explain it to me in layman terms?

Could we just skip the pump and go straight to dump? Please?

First money was made out of jewelry raw materials. Then we went to wallpaper raw materials. Now we're leaving cheap plastic in favor of video game raw-materials. How far downhill do we even need to go?

One advantage of non-governmental crypto is the government cant stick their finger in the pie.  As long as all your dealings are on an open blockchain, the government can F-off.       ( now, if they control the chain, all bets are off of course )

Sure, i agree its a lot like your game tokens and is really abstract, but it isn't a total dead end if everyone is willing to play along. And really, even hard tangible objects, values do fluctuate and can even become illegal to possess.. Like when Roosevelt made personal ownership of gold illegal, for some 40 years... 

That's really what I see as the real value of crypto.  It's a fiat currency, but there is no government who has access to manipulate the money supply.

I was having this conversation with the lead pastor of my church the other day.  He's doing his dissertation on the ethics of cryptocurrency use in corrupt developing countries (spoiler alert: he's in favor of it).  Having previously been a missionary in [redacted] he often found that crypto was the only way to get resources over to people who really needed them.  Turns out he's hip to the darknet too.  He got about a million times cooler from my point of view after that conversation.

Fri May 23 2025 17:50:59 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

That's really what I see as the real value of crypto.  It's a fiat currency, but there is no government who has access to manipulate the money supply.

I was having this conversation with the lead pastor of my church the other day.  He's doing his dissertation on the ethics of cryptocurrency use in corrupt developing countries (spoiler alert: he's in favor of it).  Having previously been a missionary in [redacted] he often found that crypto was the only way to get resources over to people who really needed them.  Turns out he's hip to the darknet too.  He got about a million times cooler from my point of view after that conversation.

Great! I was hoping to make an I2P encrypted phone using degoogled Android as a base. The one thing communist dictators and Islamic mullahs have in common is propaganda warfare that can only exist in an echo chamber. If you have any tips, feel free to private message me.

I might go with a Linux phone instead.. de-googleing android cripples it far to much for me.  ( to be fair, Android was built for google services since its part of their ecosystem, nothing really nefarious going on, so when you remove them, it does hurt )

Fri May 23 2025 21:20:31 UTC from SamuraiCrow

 

Great! I was hoping to make an I2P encrypted phone using degoogled Android as a base. The one thing communist dictators and Islamic mullahs have in common is propaganda warfare that can only exist in an echo chamber. If you have any tips, feel free to private message me.

Fri May 23 2025 21:49:31 UTCfrom Nurb432

I might go with a Linux phone instead.. de-googleing android cripples it far to much for me.  ( to be fair, Android was built for google services since its part of their ecosystem, nothing really nefarious going on, so when you remove them, it does hurt )

Tying this into the current forum subject, what Crypto exchanges are available in FDroid app store? If it can't work from degoogled Android, I may have to switch to Linux Touch anyway!

Answering my own question, https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.vgorcum.minedmonero/ seems to work for the privacy oriented Monero coin and Veil seemed to be privacy focused as well on F-Droid. Are there better crypto coins for privacy and independent of government meddling?

Odd. I had android on my pinephone. Once, just to play with.

( original model, not a the newer RK3399 one )

Fri May 23 2025 23:06:22 UTC from SamuraiCrow

 

Fri May 23 2025 21:49:31 UTCfrom Nurb432

I might go with a Linux phone instead.. de-googleing android cripples it far to much for me.  ( to be fair, Android was built for google services since its part of their ecosystem, nothing really nefarious going on, so when you remove them, it does hurt )

Normally, I would also agree but the power management on even degoogled android is so much better than Linux Touch. The one advantage of Linux Touch is that it would be easier to add a more secure driver setup using L4Linux. The drivers would need to be rewritten to work on the L4Re microkernel but anything user-mode would still run on the hosted Linux kernel.

On the other hand, I already have a PinePhone so I could try it out before going to the final edition Brax3 Phone. Brax3 will work with either Linux Touch or degoogled Android. PinePhone only works with Linux and a few other esoteric options like SculptOS. Not to mention that with the heavy encryption load of I2P and whatever Crypto exchange in use, a slow quad-core like the PinePhone wouldn't hold up well against an octacore like the Brax3.

Tying this into the current forum subject, what Crypto exchanges are available in FDroid app store? If it can't work from degoogled Android, I may have to switch to Linux Touch anyway!

(If we need to move the technical aspects of this thread to another forum, I'm fine with that.)

Fri May 23 2025 23:29:09 UTCfrom Nurb432

Odd. I had android on my pinephone. Once, just to play with.

( original model, not a the newer RK3399 one )

 

GloDroid never reached a stable release. They appeared to want to attract the attention of the developers of LineageOS but never became a blip on the radar.

"trump's family makes billions off his meme coin"

Ya. Scum. Just like the rest of DC.

And related, some higher up in the banking industry is out on tour "stop buying cypto, invest in guns and bullets instead".  I have mixed feelings about that.  On one hand as an insider, so he might actually know something we dont, but on the other hand, may just be trying to steer people back to banks where he makes his millions..

Tue Jun 03 2025 19:13:42 UTC from darknetuser Subject: De-googled android

2025-05-23 21:49 from Nurb432
I might go with a Linux phone instead.. de-googleing android
cripples it far to much for me.  ( to be fair, Android was
built for google services since its part of their ecosystem,
nothing really nefarious going on, so when you remove them, it
does hurt )

Seriously, pick a Pixel phone and put GrapheneOS on it with the F-droid software "store". It is every bit as good as Android without the spyware.

My daily driver is a Pixel 7a. I've heard that GrapheneOS saves battery life so much that it only needs to charge twice a week once it quits narking you out to Google every 5 minutes.

My only concern is that the Android drivers used in a Google phone come from Google and run in supervisor mode, no less. How do you keep closed-source drivers from calling home on demand? My plan was to install drivers on the L4Re microkernel and run the user-mode stuff with http://L4Linux.org as a user-mode passthrough layer. That way, the drivers would be forced into user-mode using IPC to communicate. (I think I mentioned that before.)

https://iode.tech/ is also available for my Google Pixel 7a but also for several others. I'm eventually going to shift my parents off the Google overlords as well. It's in v6 beta but I want to be able to shift to another phone eventually.

At this stage of the game, myself i don't worry too much about the 'tracking'.   That i'm using cell towers, means i'm tracked anyway.  The rest, just feeds the ad machine and i block that anyway.

And for me, losing google services would be bad.  I moved over to google voice when they bought out that VoIP company some 15+ years ago.  ( i forget the name, something 'central' i think ) I went VoIP back then just for the sake of convenience, so i can change carriers and not have to fight them to keep my number.. All i need is data and i have a 'phone', plus other options it opens like using my computer.. bla bla.  For me, that its now google running it, i have not seen any 'real' impact for me. ( tho now its free for personal use. it wasn't before.... )

Now that said, battery life, that would be nice. But doubt i could pull that off and not lose to many features. Poor battery is why i ended up getting a stand along mp3 player again. ( tho now it sits collecting dust, since i'm not in the office hardly at all. along whit a set of expensive headphones i got.. 2 days before we got sent home in 2020.. doh! )

And ironically i DO have a pixel. I used to get Chinese phones. ( xiaomi branded, basically the LG of china ) They were 1/3 the price for the same thing you get here plus no bloat ware, often times dual sims, etc.  But they have one issue.  Their radios are weak.  When i was in town all day, it didn't matter, but now that i'm home most of the time, it does.   ( as a backup for when internet goes out due to trees, and VoIP dies ).    Back when i was forced to get a new phone due to carrier rules ( something about requiring some stupid high definition voice protocol when i didn't even have a voice account.. grrr )  i went ahead and got the pixel.  Better radio, and lesser evil than carrier phones.  But fewer features ( like no SD card... )   I have since then found a carrier that does NOT require that stupid nonsense, but now its hard to get xiaomi phones that works here, due to a variety of reasons.  ( and i dont trust the no-name brands for quality )