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[#] Thu Oct 26 2017 17:53:33 EDT from wizard of aahz

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I have a Lenovo laptop that I think is great. It's a Yoga. Has been a win for me for the last year.

[#] Mon Oct 30 2017 13:58:50 EDT from Dedonde

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Thu Oct 26 2017 17:53:33 EDT from wizard of aahz @ Uncensored
I have a Lenovo laptop that I think is great. It's a Yoga. Has been a win for me for the last year.

I too have a Lenovo Yoga. The Yoga 14 has been great for me. Even done some light gaming, but is now my field laptop because i can go to tablet mode.

[#] Tue Oct 31 2017 11:42:51 EDT from kc5tja

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I have a Yoga via work; only problem so far is that it doesn't always go to sleep when I close the lid; sometimes it takes a concoction of caffeine, Red Bull, and crystal meth, turning my computer into a hotplate. Thankfully, my MacBook Pro makes a nice heat sink, and has saved the laptop's life twice already. Doesn't always do this, mind you, but when it does, ...

[#] Sat Nov 18 2017 19:31:23 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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Oh look!  Siri in a box!

So it looks like Apple has designed a "meee tooo" product instead of inventing a new category, brought it to market late in the game, and even failed to bring it to market in time for Christmas 2017.

The Steve would never have executed this badly, or this blandly.  Amazon got this one right, and got it right first.  I still won't buy one, but they executed and succeeded here where Apple is demonstrating that they'll only make money on this piece of marshmallow-like crap because the $350 price tag multiplied by the number of Apple cult members will push it over the profitability line.

Where's the wow factor?  Where's the "one more thing"?  Where's the game-changer that makes everyone else scramble to catch up? if you're interested in reading more, but the above basically covers it. ]

[#] Mon Nov 20 2017 14:52:18 EST from Ladyhawke

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I think I just heard a Foobar put in writing that he actually misses Steve Jobs.  I now fear that the apocalypse must be around the corner!

[#] Mon Nov 20 2017 17:02:34 EST from Ragnar Danneskjold

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I laugh at anyone who thinks Apple was ever a bleeding edge company? They don't invent. They refine. Generally their products are best of breed. Phones, MP3 players, laptops, etc. And they've had a ton of flops, even with Jobs.

That being said, they've also had a series of missteps. The touch bar on the laptop? Gimmick. Abandoning video and image pros? Huge mistake (although it looks like they're starting to correct that one.)

HomePod is a decent idea - as the Echo sucks to play music through - but Amazon was smart and teamed up with Sonos to make it better.

Anyway - AAPL is near their all-time high. They're doing something right.

[#] Mon Nov 20 2017 17:10:07 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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Fine, then ... Apple has not *refined* anything since The Steve relocated to the section of Hell that has beveled edges and no buttons.

They haven't released a product in years that was anything other than incremental.
Even the Fanboi Faithful agree with that statement, as they continue to shell out megabucks for meh.

I just want someone to build an operating system with visuals that are neither "flat" nor "skeumorphic."

[#] Mon Nov 20 2017 17:23:14 EST from Ragnar Danneskjold

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Isn't that the industry in general right now? What isn't "meh" or incremental right now from anyone?

[#] Mon Nov 20 2017 22:26:00 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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Blockchain.  The blockchain will change everything.  Or so I'm told.

[#] Wed Dec 20 2017 17:34:34 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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Ugh. ]

Our fruity friends in Cupertino have decided to copy A Very Shitty Feature from the Beast of Redmond.

They're going to roll out the Apple equivalent of "Universal Apps" that run poorly on both iOS and MacOS, just like Windows Store apps.

This ought to be ... predictably bad.  Microsoft proved that it's bad.  I wonder if Google will do it next (Android apps running in Chrome?).

[#] Thu Dec 21 2017 11:46:45 EST from Ragnar Danneskjold

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Depends on how they do it. If they are "native" to each, yeah, it'll suck.
If it's some sort of containerized abstraction? It could be ok.

[#] Tue Mar 06 2018 18:02:14 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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Here's a photo of Crapple's new headquarters:

Apparently they've designed the interior like an Apple product, and a lot of people are getting injured (bruises, lacerations, etc) from walking into unadorned glass walls and doors.

I also have to call into question why Apple, as a supposedly socially-conscious company, would produce the significant environmental impact of such a large building instead of moving into existing vacant office space.

[#] Thu Apr 26 2018 17:31:07 EDT from 9cPF <>

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I always loved PowerMacs, and now I'd love to put an OpenBSD on it. But nowadays, Apple lost its way and the quality of Sierra is really crappy.

[#] Wed May 09 2018 12:01:26 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Classic macintosh computers always felt so snappy. I think Apple lost its way when they went to OS X, which is weird considering how superior Unix is to the underpinnings of the old Mac OS. I tried to like it ... even owned two Macs after the switch but it just didn't click.

[#] Wed May 09 2018 13:35:50 EDT from Ragnar Danneskjold

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Funny - I felt the opposite. Pre-OSX Macs felt slow and clunky. OSX just flys in comparison.

I just got a new Macbook Pro. It's hands down one of the fastest machines I've ever used.

[#] Wed May 09 2018 14:13:39 EDT from kc5tja

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You're both right. Classic MacOS X was much snappier than classic MacOS.
However, contemporary MacOS X is a dog, because screw the customer, it has got to be skeumorphic up the analytica, and all that graphics data has to traverse the bus, and that all takes time. Not only that, but their attention to UI standards has fallen prey to Microsoft-style "gamification," where they leave it to the user to poke and prod a program to discover what is and isn't a control, and even then, to determine the exact purpose of that control.

[#] Wed May 09 2018 14:14:55 EDT from kc5tja

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That said, classic MacOS *was* designed first and foremost for the 68000, so anything beyond that made classic MacOS feel quite speedy. And when they ported it to PowerPC, booyah, it was extremely pleasant to use. OS X, being based on a Unix kernel, probably needed some time to have its scheduler tweaked to favor real-time user interfaces.

[#] Thu May 10 2018 11:18:10 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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I just got a new Macbook Pro. It's hands down one of the fastest
machines I've ever used.

Has the keyboard jammed up yet, or are you using it in an ISO 14644-1 cleanroom?

What I liked about Classic was that it wasn't bogged down with overly shiny and skeumorphic anything. Everything just snapped across the screen, maybe it blinked the selected element once or twice to let you know that it was selected. Apple isn't the only one guilty of this, not by far. Our beloved KDE has taken a turn for the worse; their "Plasma" desktop is just as bad.
The effect is more pronounced in Mac OS because it went from the best-of-the-best to just another "look what I can render" abomination.

And don't get me started on the "flat" design trend, pioneered by Microsoft and then aped by Apple, Google, and others. Remember when a button actually looked like a button and you didn't have to guess? (what kc5tja is calling "gamification") Arrgh.

All I want is a desktop that looks like Mac OS 9 or Windows 95 but with a good Unix kernel underneath it.

[#] Thu May 10 2018 12:39:55 EDT from zooer

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I am going to start making a list of all the items when IGnat says "all I want", it is a long list.

[#] Thu May 10 2018 16:51:12 EDT from Ragnar Danneskjold

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No, the keyboard has been fine. I don't like the key travel, but it's working okay. I despise the touch bar.

I agree about the "flat" design. While it looks modern.n I don't care for it.

And Windows 95? Really?

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