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[#] Tue Jan 08 2019 10:27:51 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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Finishing up the NNTP implementation could definitely be part of the medium term roadmap. Are you looking to access Citadel with an NNTP client, or are you looking to join an NNTP network?

[#] Sun Jan 13 2019 15:38:24 EST from nonservator

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I had just been thinking client, but porky no lass dose?



[#] Mon Jan 21 2019 10:49:14 EST from IGnatius T Foobar

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Client is definitely the first step. Ultimately it would make sense to have the ability to join an existing NNTP network -- even if it isn't UseNet, some other network would be more likely to support NNTP than any other protocol.

[#] Thu Apr 25 2019 14:13:27 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Here's something I either didn't know or wasn't paying attention to when it happened.  Jeff Prothero, aka Cynbe ru Taren, died on 2016-nov-16.  He was 60 years old.

For those not familiar -- he was the author of the early CP/M implementation of Citadel.  The text-mode client of today's modern Citadel is based upon the user interface he designed in 1981.  He's widely known as the originator of this famous UI, which has remained useful for nearly 40 years and has been implemented in numerous room-based software packages ... even though he handed off the code to David Mitchell just a few months later.

I'm not sure what else to add here, or even if anything needs to be added.  (Based on some things he's said over the years, I am having Crispy thoughts, but I'll keep them to myself for now.)  There doesn't seem to be an obituary online anywhere, but a bit of web scrubbing suggests he died of colorectal cancer.   Although he was only a minor player in terms of time and effort spent in building Citadel software and communities over the years, none of it would have ever existed without him as the originator, so we raise a glass or a flaming shot or something to the guy who started it all.

 



[#] Fri Apr 26 2019 13:14:32 EDT from fleeb

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I remember Cynbe ru Taren very well. I think I looked at the code he wrote, before I really knew how to program in C very well.

Gads. Just odd to think he's gone.

[#] Mon Apr 29 2019 11:43:08 EDT from userT

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For some reason, whenever hearing the name "Prothero" reminds me of the character Lewis Prothero from V for Vendetta comic...



[#] Tue Aug 13 2019 16:44:33 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Citadel Server updates and installation changes

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Hi everyone! It's another wonderful day in Citadelia, and we have some changes pertaining to the installation of Citadel Server.

For starters, we've fixed the installation problem that some users were experiencing when installing on Raspberry Pi and on newer versions of Debian Linux/Linux.
This was a weird one but it's finally fixed.

The big news is that Easy Install is now designed to work with systemd. We won't get into religious arguments over whether systemd is good or bad; the bottom line is that it's now present in all major Linux/Linux operating system distributions, so we're going to use it to make everyone's lives easier during installation. Anyone using an outlier distribution probably already knows what to do, and will simply be given on-screen instructions on how to complete the installation (Easy Install will still build the software for you). But for the vast majority running Debian, Ubuntu, CentOS, etc. , Easy Install will create systemd unit files for you, and reliably start/stop the Citadel services when needed.

Share And Enjoy!

[#] Fri Jul 03 2020 18:49:37 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Support for custom Sieve scripts to be discontinued in the next release

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This is an important announcement that will hopefully have very little effect.

OWe've decided to discontinue our use of the "Sieve" inbox filtering language in Citadel. This is being done for compatibility reasons -- no one is maintaining the library that parses it, and it is becoming problematic in builds on various platforms.

Note that this does NOT mean we're discontinuing the inbox filters. We're just removing the ability for users to write their own Sieve scripts, which hopefully is a very rare practice.

** If you are using "inbox rules" in WebCit, your rules will be automatically upgraded to the new system. **


[#] Sat Jul 04 2020 00:26:02 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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In other CitaNews, I'm pleased to announce that we have launched our new and improved project web site.

[ http://www.citadel.org ]

This has been in the works for a long time. The very dated-looking dokuwiki site has been retired. All of the information from that site has been moved to the new site, and much of it has been rewritten to become up to date with the current state of the Citadel system.

Corrections and suggestions are always welcome, of course.

[#] Sat Jul 04 2020 06:46:47 EDT from zooer

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Are there supposed to be links on this page?

http://www.citadel.org/download.html

 



[#] Sat Jul 04 2020 06:48:24 EDT from zooer

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I see, a person shouldn't click on the shaded areas of text, a person should click on the lines above and below the text.



[#] Sat Jul 04 2020 07:43:40 EDT from Chuck Gelm <nc8q-mesh@gelm.net> to room_citanews@uncensored.citadel.org

Subject: Re: [CitaNews] Support for custom Sieve scripts to be discontinued inthe next release

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On 7/3/20 6:49 PM, IGnatius T Foobar wrote:


How do I unsubscribe?

[#] Sat Jul 04 2020 07:44:37 EDT from Chuck Gelm <nc8q-mesh@gelm.net> to room_citanews@uncensored.citadel.org

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unsubscribe

[#] Sat Jul 04 2020 07:46:16 EDT from Chuck Gelm <nc8q-mesh@gelm.net> to room_citanews@uncensored.citadel.org

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unsubscribe

There is no 'unsubscribe' information in the headers:

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[#] Sat Jul 04 2020 09:59:10 EDT from zooer

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zap (forget) the room.



[#] Sat Jul 04 2020 10:51:55 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Are there supposed to be links on this page?

http://www.citadel.org/download.html

Clicking anywhere in the boxes will take you to the destination.

[#] Sat Jul 04 2020 10:52:31 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

Subject: Re: [CitaNews] Support for custom Sieve scripts to be discontinued inthe next release

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How do I unsubscribe?

Go to http://uncensored.citadel.org/listsub

[#] Sat Jul 04 2020 11:25:41 EDT from Chuck Gelm <nc8q-mesh@gelm.net> to room_citanews@uncensored.citadel.org

Subject: Re: ***SPAM*** Re: [CitaNews] Support for custom Sieve scripts to bediscontinued inthe next release

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On 7/4/20 10:52 AM, IGnatius T Foobar wrote:
How do I unsubscribe?

Go to http://uncensored.citadel.org/listsub

Many thanks.
Done.

[#] Fri Jul 17 2020 10:05:08 EDT from heini to room_citanews@uncensored.citadel.org

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Am 04.07.20 um 15:59 schrieb zooer:

zap (forget) the room.

Not when you're subscribed to it as a mailinglist. It seems that bit of
documentation hasn't survived the redesign (at least I can't find it
anymore).

[#] Thu Jul 30 2020 09:36:45 EDT from bananaOp

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very cool! some links from web searches points to 404 pages though. Also letsencrypt https could be useful as some browsers starts blocking non https stuff.

Cheers!

 



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