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[#] Sun Nov 09 2025 14:51:53 UTC from Nurb432

Subject: Re: OpenMandriva is Teh R0x0r

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My condolences. 

Sun Nov 09 2025 01:23:28 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar Subject: OpenMandriva is Teh R0x0r
 I selected the Wayland variant --

 



[#] Sun Nov 09 2025 15:35:24 UTC from Nurb432

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"Devuan 6.0 “Excalibur” Released — Debian 13 without systemd"

 

 



[#] Sun Nov 09 2025 23:59:39 UTC from darknetuser

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2025-11-09 15:35 from Nurb432
"Devuan 6.0 “Excalibur” Released — Debian 13 without
systemd"

 

 


I was expecting this one. I don't think I am going to upgrade my production systems just yet, though XD.

[#] Mon Nov 10 2025 13:08:49 UTC from Nurb432

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As i was ranting above, so far, no upgrade i have done has worked ( on stock Debian ).  Its all been reloads.  Now, i don't pretend to be upgrading 100s of them and its been just a couple of attempts, but its not a good sign.

Sun Nov 09 2025 23:59:39 UTC from darknetuser
2025-11-09 15:35 from Nurb432
"Devuan 6.0 “Excalibur” Released — Debian 13 without
systemd"

 

 


I was expecting this one. I don't think I am going to upgrade my production systems just yet, though XD.

 



[#] Mon Nov 10 2025 18:22:19 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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As i was ranting above, so far, no upgrade i have done has
worked ( on stock Debian ).  Its all been reloads.  Now, i

Debian to Devuan, or Debian to newer Debian? I upgrade them all the time and it works pretty seamlessly.

To go to a different distribution though, I do find it's more reliable to just boot from the installer, mount root, delete everything except /home (and maybe /opt and /usr/local if you have anything there) and then proceed with the installation. I just did that over the weekend, in fact.

[#] Mon Nov 10 2025 19:56:44 UTC from darknetuser

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To go to a different distribution though, I do find it's more reliable

to just boot from the installer, mount root, delete everything except

/home (and maybe /opt and /usr/local if you have anything there) and

then proceed with the installation. I just did that over the weekend,

in fact.



To be honest, if you are working with OS images you are probably better just creating new OS images and redeploying them, specially if you have some no-thinking-involved initialization tool. I am a dinosaur so I go the traditional route, though.


And yeah, I use Devuan at work when Linux is needed, so it would be a Devuan->Devuan upgrade. I have a Debian machine somewhere for some applications that would be too much hassle to port over, though. That said, most of what is not a workstation around here runs BSD.

[#] Mon Nov 10 2025 21:23:13 UTC from Nurb432

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It was Bookworm to Trixie.  Yes, its always done fine in the past. But not this time. Any attempt. 

Saving home would have been fine for the laptop it ate. But i had nothign there any way of valiue, so a reload fixed it.

The server, home was the least of my concerns it was drivers, CUDA, dev tools, bla bla.  I gave up and redid it with bookworm. Now its fine, which is the version it will most likely stay on the rest of its life.  Goig from buster to bookworm was also a bit of a pain. Some of the components were not there yet, even tho it was in release mode, not testing. But they were in sid ( trixie ) so i did that and left it be until release ( something like 2 years ).   But when trixie finally came out, some were removed, and other things broke, like the laptop.  ***ers.  Sure a reload would have made it 'work', but not for me, i need that NVIDIA crap working or its a boat anchor and might as well toss it in the river.

 

Mon Nov 10 2025 18:22:19 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar
As i was ranting above, so far, no upgrade i have done has
worked ( on stock Debian ).  Its all been reloads.  Now, i

Debian to Devuan, or Debian to newer Debian? I upgrade them all the time and it works pretty seamlessly.

To go to a different distribution though, I do find it's more reliable to just boot from the installer, mount root, delete everything except /home (and maybe /opt and /usr/local if you have anything there) and then proceed with the installation. I just did that over the weekend, in fact.

 



[#] Thu Nov 13 2025 21:50:58 UTC from Nurb432

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Any of you use BorgBackup?

Been using Rsync forever, but thinking of looking at alternatives for my off-site storage, for storage/network compression and dedup..  and that popped up. Seems to have been around a good decade. 

I know rsync can compress traffic, but be nice to safe some space on the drive too. 



[#] Sun Nov 16 2025 22:35:09 UTC from darknetuser

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2025-11-13 21:50 from Nurb432
Any of you use BorgBackup?

Been using Rsync forever, but thinking of looking at
alternatives for my off-site storage, for storage/network
compression and dedup..  and that popped up. Seems to have been
around a good decade. 

I know rsync can compress traffic, but be nice to safe some
space on the drive too. 


I can't comment on BorgBackup specifically, but for small scale serious backups you should consider a solution such as restic or bacula.

Restic can store backups on a regular mount point (such as an NFS share), over sftp, or on a dedicated Restic server. Deduplication is supported, incremental service is supported, and everythign is compressed and encrypted.

Performance for big transfers is not great.

[#] Sat Nov 22 2025 01:40:26 UTC from ParanoidDelusions

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So, one of the lead developers of the Amiga Vampire project by Apollo Computers is this German guy named Gunner. 

He treats me like I'm a technology idiot. Super arrogant. 

I keep trying to explain to him I ran a Citadel Linux BBS on Proxmox (I just got one of my backup development servers back online today, it is working flawlessly, I could bring it back tomorrow)... 

And he doesn't seem to get it that this means I'm at least not a complete mouth-breather at technology. 

I came into his world the same way I came in here, thrashing and breaking things and not quite sure of anything - but you guys, like Citadelphians always have been - seemed to go, "Wow, look at this Tasmanian devil of blundering moronic insanity, let's see if we can help him..." 

Which is what I love about Citadel. It feels like a community that always goes "Well, that is anarchy, but I bet we can build order from it." 

And by the end - I was... I mean, I was dormant at being decent with Debian when I started - I just hadn't used it for a few years - but I was even BETTER at Debian by the time I stopped, and probably way better than a lot of people who do *nix things for a living. I mean, I'm sure of that last part. I've seen some of the people who get paid to be *nix Admins. 

But it does bug me a bit. The guy is playing with AmigaOS and 68k architecture that is 40 years old and treating me like I'm the idiot because I'm not hyper-present on those platforms. 

But... it wouldn't be a Commodore environment without that kind of arrogance, I suppose. And I don't post these opinions in more.. accessible forums - like Facebook or Twitter or Discord - because I'm actively trying to diffuse a conflict. 

 



[#] Sat Nov 22 2025 01:42:38 UTC from Nurb432

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Bingo.

Tho.. i cant say much as us Atarians were not much better.   Not as bad, but still...

Sat Nov 22 2025 01:40:26 UTC from ParanoidDelusions



But... it wouldn't be a Commodore environment without that kind of arrogance, 

 



 



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