We have the moral high ground, *because* we have the moral high ground. If we give that up, what is there to fight for? I don't care which side wins in that case. 

if you've ever interacted with deep gangs, FAFO is their main public modus-operandi, if you cross em in that mode they'll dump 2 magazines in you and light you on fire. if they decide to rob or kill you, they're not operating under FAFO, they're doing what they consider is their employment (aka JOB mode).  they demand instant respect, if you fail, then its entertainment-mode as they teach you a lesson, they don't care if you fail to survive the lesson. they operate in several "modes", its important to figure out which mode they're in when you encounter them.  if there's more than 1 of them, the modes get complicated. if you're carrying a gun - be chill. if things don't go your way, they do respect 9mm but you still might die. i grew up with them and seen the wrong end of the barrel. everyone fantasizes, its better to avoid them, especially if you don't carry. get some training, until then, remember- you're an idiot, it keeps you humble.

As of now, the standard right-of-center NPC waves his flag and waxes on about his principles. He will do so as the body-positive, pink haired, diversity hire loads him onto a boxcar. He will sing about his high ideals all the way to the train yard. When they open the train doors and he sees the trench and bulldozer, he will hold his head high, secure in knowing that he was true to all the debates he had in college about how collectivism will never work. Perhaps the only hope he has is that flash of regret that, just maybe, he should have given some thought as to outcome versus process, as he stares down the barrel of that AK with the dead-eyed, 4'-10" Guatemalan behind it. In the last second of his life, he takes value in knowing that he was morally right sticking to his "rugged individualism" and the fact that the Left were the "real racists." And with that, his idealism is buried to the sound of a diesel engine pushing the soil he refused to defend, out of principle, over his bloody corpse.

I have a butane soldering pencil with a torch attachment in my desk drawer.

Mon Jan 23 2023 09:36:40 PM EST from ParanoidDelusions

 We might as well just burn the whole thing down. 

 

Yes. We are to that point. The moral high ground at this point only gets you buried, and your side loses the war. So what did you accomplish by being 'the better person'? Nothing. 

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Tue Jan 24 2023 10:19:13 AM EST from nonservator

 

When/if it comes time to physically defend, i wont be defending current 'western government', which i agree is way out of line.  ill be defending my personal freedom, and the intents of our founders. Hoping to force a complete system reboot, and going back to our founder's writings.  

Will we get a chance to fight, and will we win? Who knows, but i think that is a cause worth fighting for, when it comes.

Wed Jan 25 2023 02:01:15 PM EST from darknetuser

2023-01-24 13:02 from Nurb432
Yes. We are to that point. The moral high ground at this point only
gets you buried, and your side loses the war. So what did you
accomplish by being 'the better person'? Nothing. 

The real issue with people who thinks they are taking a principled moral trench by defending The System is that this people thinks The SYstem is legit and therefore worth defending.

Sorry, but you can only take pride in defending somehting if that something is worth defending. Western governments are no longer worth defending and therefore standing up for them while they destroy you makes you look like an idiot.