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[#] Tue Jul 25 2023 10:20:00 UTC from darknetuser

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2023-07-19 11:35 from fandarel
There are other nets other than Fidonet you may set from Sychronet,



I tried joining fsxNet as well. I similarly received no reply from

those folks.
I then created my own network, zone 156, and installed binkd under

WSL2 on my laptop. Netmail + 1 echo. That was enough to scratch the

itch and prove to myself that the Synchronet end is working.
Planning to just leave it sit there for a couple weeks and see if I

catch anything on the binkd port, but at this point I'm Over It.



fsxNet is like a Disney version of a pile of cow poo.

They want to keep it controversy free and therefore any subject that may generate a debate is banned. As a result you have plenty inane threads because the interesting ones are banned for the most part. Also lots of veiled attempts to bypass the rules and get some conversation started.

[#] Tue Jul 25 2023 15:10:18 UTC from fandarel

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They want to keep it controversy free and therefore any subject that

may generate a debate is banned. As a result you have plenty inane
threads because the interesting ones are banned for the most part. Also

lots of veiled attempts to bypass the rules and get some conversation

started.

So the SNR is still low, not because the noise is too high, but because the signal is too low. And even when you get the signal, nothing of value is encoded in the message.
Blah. They can keep it.

[#] Sat Aug 05 2023 14:51:43 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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What it tells us, though, is that there are others like us out there that are looking for online hangouts that are not quite as intense as the roar of mainstream social media. I want to tap into that.

[#] Sat Aug 05 2023 18:52:06 UTC from Nurb432

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Only danger is getting on the wrong radar, and the idiots find us.. ( like they did mastodon )

Sat Aug 05 2023 10:51:43 AM EDT from IGnatius T Foobar
What it tells us, though, is that there are others like us out there that are looking for online hangouts that are not quite as intense as the roar of mainstream social media. I want to tap into that.

 



[#] Sat Aug 05 2023 20:18:17 UTC from nonservator

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I think the culture here is strong enough to fight off any invaders opposed to it.



[#] Mon Aug 07 2023 13:56:51 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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We'd probably get node-banned before that happened :)

[#] Mon Aug 07 2023 16:38:31 UTC from nonservator

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Heh is there still an actual Citadel network? That you're hooked into? I remember checking in on Fidonet and finding something like 99% zombies, 1% Russians.



[#] Mon Aug 07 2023 17:11:18 UTC from Nurb432

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I thought that was gone too. Unless he meant future plans.

Mon Aug 07 2023 12:38:31 PM EDT from nonservator

Heh is there still an actual Citadel network? That you're hooked into? I remember checking in on Fidonet and finding something like 99% zombies, 1% Russians.



 



[#] Wed Aug 16 2023 01:41:35 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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Currently no.  There are future plans.



[#] Thu Sep 07 2023 00:39:58 UTC from Nurb432

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Kermit. Dialup.



[#] Thu Sep 07 2023 19:55:08 UTC from fandarel

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Kermit. Dialup.

The fsxNet folks have been having a ball with kermit. Somehow, the transfer speed from a synchronet BBS to a client running qodem is vastly better using kermit than using zmodem. I don't see how that can be, but I've been too busy to test it myself.

[#] Thu Sep 07 2023 21:09:18 UTC from Nurb432

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Wasn't the "real" Kermit source pulled from the net at one point ? Copyright or something. I dont remember.   Then it got replaced with a 'clean' version?

Or am i thinking of something else?

Thu Sep 07 2023 15:55:08 EDT from fandarel
Kermit. Dialup.

The fsxNet folks have been having a ball with kermit. Somehow, the transfer speed from a synchronet BBS to a client running qodem is vastly better using kermit than using zmodem. I don't see how that can be, but I've been too busy to test it myself.

 



[#] Mon Sep 11 2023 12:31:24 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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The fsxNet folks have been having a ball with kermit. Somehow, the
transfer speed from a synchronet BBS to a client running qodem is
vastly better using kermit than using zmodem. I don't see how that can

be, but I've been too busy to test it myself.

Why does anyone care if it's running over the Intertubes now? Speed mattered when it was a long distance phone call.

And is all of fsxNet in New Zealand or is that just a domain thing?

[#] Mon Sep 11 2023 13:30:11 UTC from Nurb432

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Well, when the net is shut down next year and we all have to go to LORA mesh, packet radio, or something similar, speed matters.

Mon Sep 11 2023 08:31:24 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar
Why does anyone care if it's running over the Intertubes now? Speed mattered when it was a long distance phone call.


 



[#] Mon Sep 11 2023 15:13:36 UTC from fandarel

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Wasn't the "real" Kermit source pulled from the net at one point ?
Copyright or something. I dont remember.   Then it got replaced
with a 'clean' version?

I'm vaguely remember something about this, but it's been a while. Not finding anything on google. Maybe related to the fact that there are some components of the kermit code from Columbia that are not under a Free Software license?
Maybe that is why gkermit exists?

[#] Mon Sep 11 2023 15:15:07 UTC from fandarel

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Why does anyone care if it's running over the Intertubes now? Speed

mattered when it was a long distance phone call.

And is all of fsxNet in New Zealand or is that just a domain thing?

Because they are trying to move multi-gigabyte files via 80s protocols. It's a fetish, I think. And they are not patient folks.
fsxNet is in North America, Australia, New Zealand at this point. The folks running the show are in NZ.

[#] Mon Sep 11 2023 21:02:49 UTC from darknetuser

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2023-09-11 11:13 from fandarel
Wasn't the "real" Kermit source pulled from the net at one point ?

Copyright or something. I dont remember. Then it got replaced

with a 'clean' version?

I'm vaguely remember something about this, but it's been a while. Not

finding anything on google. Maybe related to the fact that there are

some components of the kermit code from Columbia that are not under a

Free Software license?
Maybe that is why gkermit exists?



Feel free to ask the current maintainer of Columbian Kermit for details.


What happened, as far as I remember, is that the people maintaining the original software stopped maintaining it and after a little while they Open Sourced it and somebody else took over it.

[#] Mon Sep 11 2023 21:32:10 UTC from Nurb432

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Might be

I just remember  hearing about it 'being removed from distribution". And it vanished off the *edu FTP sites i used to use to get software, by request.  I had a regular dual-up ISP and didnt use it by that point, so didnt look further into the details, just remember it happening.

But it did make an impact: "if you like something, keep it, it might be gone tomorow"  and that begun my career of data hoarding. At one point i must have had 800 DVDs of stuff..  I finally forced myself to get rid f most of them. Tho, anything i thought was interesting i copied onto HDD, of course. Could only go so far.  Hovering around 8TB of crap i keep around, But at least its not like a 'house hoarder' its just a little box on a shelf. not rooms of stuff.  Every so often i do look at the files, and delete things. Its painful. ( "Do i still really need DRDos6? No. Delete, sync to backup of the backup... Next day.....what did i do?" )

Ironically had it happen recently with an AI model. It was great, so i decided to download the entire model for safe keeping, and not just the quantized version.  2 days later it vanished, under odd circumstances. 

Mon Sep 11 2023 17:02:49 EDT from darknetuser
What happened, as far as I remember, is that the people maintaining the original software stopped maintaining it and after a little while they Open Sourced it and somebody else took over it.

 



[#] Mon Sep 11 2023 21:46:04 UTC from darknetuser

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I just remember  hearing about it 'being removed from distribution".

And it vanished off the *edu FTP sites i used to use to get software,

by request.  I had a regular dual-up ISP and didnt use it by that

point, so didnt look further into the details, just remember it
happening.

But it did make an impact: "if you like something, keep it, it might

be gone tomorow"  and that begun my career of data hoarding. At one

point i must have had 800 DVDs of stuff..  I finally forced myself

to get rid f most of them. Tho, anything i thought was interesting i

copied onto HDD, of course. Could only go so far.  Hovering around

8TB of crap i keep around, But at least its not like a 'house
hoarder' its just a little box on a shelf. not rooms of stuff. 

Every so often
i do look at the files, and delete things. Its
painful. ( "Do i still really need DRDos6? No. Delete, sync to backup

of the backup... Next day.....what did i do?" )


I am a datahoarder myself, but I think it is more related to the fact I grew up Internetless in an era were eveyrbody had some connectivity.

I had to learn to use loads of heavy digital tools for job and study without Internet access. That means I had to keep everything I could need at home. Linux distributions that were designed to use only online repositories were a pain so I had to learn to build my custom ones and keep them and maintain them myself.

To this day I still have the mentality that I *must* keep enough digital tools laying around that I can still build and install anything I might need if I go offline. I have lots of packaging and build scripts from a decade ago.

Interestingly, I just rolled a new (old) home NAS for storing more backups.

[#] Mon Sep 11 2023 21:51:31 UTC from msgrhys

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Mon Sep 11 2023 17:32:10 EDT from Nurb432
Ironically had it happen recently with an AI model. It was great, so i decided to download the entire model for safe keeping, and not just the quantized version.  2 days later it vanished, under odd circumstances.

IT ESCAPED!



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