I knew a girl who loved rogue. i would get it for her and she would play it at work.

My wife played Rogue before I met her. One of the many reasons we've stayed together.

Play rouge online

https://www.myabandonware.com/game/rogue-4n/play-4n

I think I'm going to be playing a lot of old video games over the next 4 years - or doing anything else that keeps me away from Facebook and Twitter. 

A Slower Speed of Light is a first-person game prototype in which players navigate a 3D space while picking up orbs that reduce the speed of light in increments. Custom-built, open-source relativistic graphics code allows the speed of light in the game to approach the player’s own maximum walking speed. Visual effects of special relativity gradually become apparent to the player, increasing the challenge of gameplay. These effects, rendered in realtime to vertex accuracy, include the Doppler effect (red- and blue-shifting of visible light, and the shifting of infrared and ultraviolet light into the visible spectrum); the searchlight effect (increased brightness in the direction of travel); time dilation (differences in the perceived passage of time from the player and the outside world); Lorentz transformation (warping of space at near-light speeds); and the runtime effect (the ability to see objects as they were in the past, due to the travel time of light). Players can choose to share their mastery and experience of the game through Twitter. A Slower Speed of Light combines accessible gameplay and a fantasy setting with theoretical and computational physics research to deliver an engaging and pedagogically rich experience.

For Linux, Mac and something called Windows.

http://gamelab.mit.edu/games/a-slower-speed-of-light/

For the record, The SciFi/Fantasy of Roger Zelanzy's "Chronicles of Amber," is one of my favorite series in this kind of genre. It certainly takes a more "Heavy Metal" approach to mixing in some science and modern with the fantastic elements of the story - but it is well done - and if you want to argue that removes it from High Fantasy - then eventually the Ultima series of CFRPGs does the same thing, basically, and so does The Chronicles of Narnia. 

I don't disagree with you. I'm saying the working definition the 5th Edition kiddos I saw trying to develop basically boils down to that...


That the further the world is from reality, the more HIGH the fantasy is... Older generations are using the word differently.

Like, a HIGH elf would be tinkerbell, a LOW elf would be Legolas - one would totally be out of place in our reality, in our dimension - the other is basically a slender human with pointy ears.


High Fantasy to me really just means it is a low tech, middle ages world with en epic feeling to it. Low fantasy would be the same thing, but with very little "supernatural" going on, if any.

It is a definition drift.

Thu Jan 14 2021 11:25:44 EST from darknetuser

I don't agree that High Fantasy is a cartoon necessarily. There is more to it than D&D merchandise.

Margaret Weiss and Tracy Hickman wrote a lot of "cartoonish" High Fantasy for D&D franchises - and actually some of that stuff is quite good - but they also have a lot of works that are quite unique in their own right.

Well, and if you get SciFi elements involved, a lot of purists have ALWAYS rejected it from the fantasy genre altogether. So, Dragonriders of Pern - Sci Fi, not fantasy. 

Sat Jan 16 2021 07:26:46 EST from darknetuser

It is a definition drift.

Pretty much.

There is also this tendency to declare that anything that is not heroic / epic / shiny cannot be High Fantasy, which is why I have seen people lump things like the Warhammer setting on the Low Fantasy pile.

For the record, the original Warhammer Fantasy setting has dragons, orcs, demons and evil wizzards popping up from under every rock, in a cruel world that is going to shit blazing fast as the Chaos gods eat it a bite at a time.

I feel like older generations that grew up on Heavy Metal and space operas understand this better. 

Star Wars isn't science fiction, it is Science Fantasy. High Fantasy has castles, knights, and monsters. Low fantasy has little or no magic. But genres are messy. Where does Conan fit into this? Exotic Summerian fantasy. Then someone decides to take all that, and throw in clues that it is a post-present day apocalypse, and you've got Conan fighting a robot sentry in an abandoned military base. :) 

I love that last kind of casserole of fantasy genres. The Dark Tower - although King failed to stick the landing, was most epic when he had cowboys following the code of Arthurian chivalry fighting infectious cyborg bears and riddling with psychotic monorail AI next to heroin addicts from New York city. 

Mon Jan 18 2021 06:33:48 EST from darknetuser

2021-01-16 17:18 from ParanoidDelusions
Well, and if you get SciFi elements involved, a lot of purists have

ALWAYS rejected it from the fantasy genre altogether. So,
Dragonriders of Pern - Sci Fi, not fantasy. 

I am a bit of the opposite myself.

Fantasy with a heavy dose of science-fiction is still fantasy.

Science-Fiction with a dose of fantasy becomes less of science-fiction to me the more fantasy you put in.

Why aren't there any CFRPs that do that? Give me a post-apocalyptic FRP where suddenly I'm in a middle-ages fantasy side-quest, but still with the technology and armor of my post-apocalyptic world. Do I join the knight and use my plasma rifle to vanquish the dragon, or do I join the dragon and use my plasma rifle to dispatch the forces of good? 

Mon Jan 18 2021 12:58:06 EST from ParanoidDelusions

I feel like older generations that grew up on Heavy Metal and space operas understand this better. 

Star Wars isn't science fiction, it is Science Fantasy. High Fantasy has castles, knights, and monsters. Low fantasy has little or no magic. But genres are messy. Where does Conan fit into this? Exotic Summerian fantasy. Then someone decides to take all that, and throw in clues that it is a post-present day apocalypse, and you've got Conan fighting a robot sentry in an abandoned military base. :) 

I love that last kind of casserole of fantasy genres. The Dark Tower - although King failed to stick the landing, was most epic when he had cowboys following the code of Arthurian chivalry fighting infectious cyborg bears and riddling with psychotic monorail AI next to heroin addicts from New York city. 

 

And really, what is good? What is evil? Who gets to decide?

Mon Jan 18 2021 13:00:34 EST from ParanoidDelusions

Why aren't there any CFRPs that do that? Give me a post-apocalyptic FRP where suddenly I'm in a middle-ages fantasy side-quest, but still with the technology and armor of my post-apocalyptic world. Do I join the knight and use my plasma rifle to vanquish the dragon, or do I join the dragon and use my plasma rifle to dispatch the forces of good?