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[#] Tue Oct 01 2013 19:58:45 EDT from Ladyhawke @ Uncensored

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Net-Net:

Both Agile and Scrum *can* be effective.  Unfortunately, both are often poorly understood and poorly managed because, as others have noted, these methods work well when used as designed - with small teams unhampered by much bureaucracy or need for oversight and that have a single focused product with a small enough number of stakeholders to allow for the fluidity of requirements to not crash the machine.

They are not meant for teams of 10-20 or multiple teams working on the same part of the same product or products with multiple layers of stakeholders or bureaucracies....or for that matter, larger, fatter products with too many moving pieces to be kept in a single engineer's head.  They also are not meant to be implemented "in place of" planning or "in place of" solid development practice.

But Execs like fast and Bean Counters really like fast.  They like the word sprint because they can pretend that it means working 70hrs/wk to get an unplanned or last minute product change out the door.  They also like that they can pretend it means that they don't have to pay a separate person to actually manage their projects.



[#] Tue Oct 01 2013 21:35:37 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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This industry just isn't going to learn their lessons properly.

[#] Wed Oct 02 2013 04:49:03 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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next thing is the surrounding bureaucracy; if they musn't be able to install software on the build system, and the peer takes weeks to install a file utility RPM version 5.11, or it takes weeks to install a publicly accessible webserver...



[#] Wed Oct 02 2013 07:06:18 EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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Then you sign up for AWS and *route around* the bureaucracy with a few clicks.

[#] Wed Oct 02 2013 08:05:50 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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just to get laid off 3 days later...



[#] Wed Oct 02 2013 10:52:39 EDT from Sig @ Uncensored

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just to get laid off 3 days later...


Ugh. That sucks.

[#] Thu Oct 03 2013 01:01:28 EDT from ax25 @ Uncensored

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Wed Oct 02 2013 10:52:39 AM EDT from Sig @ Uncensored
just to get laid off 3 days later...


Ugh. That sucks.

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!



[#] Fri Oct 04 2013 15:02:39 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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Thu Oct 03 2013 01:01:28 EDT from ax25 @ Uncensored
Wed Oct 02 2013 10:52:39 AM EDT from Sig @ Uncensored
just to get laid off 3 days later...
Ugh. That sucks.

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

Just the potential result of uploading closest source programs to AWS.

Next problem is, you probably won't even be able to ssh there.



[#] Fri Oct 04 2013 16:14:11 EDT from Sig @ Uncensored

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Just received a phone call. To maximize my chances of being considered "mission essential," I have to cancel the second week of my leave and report back in on Monday. This does not please me overly much.

[#] Fri Oct 04 2013 16:17:30 EDT from Sig @ Uncensored

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Addendum: it should be noted that the issue of whether we will get paid on the 15th is entirely separate from the one about whether we are employed.

Also, it's hard to apply for other jobs when my resume has to be declassified first and those people are furloughed.

[#] Fri Oct 04 2013 16:49:26 EDT from Sig @ Uncensored

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Oct 4 2013 4:14pm from Sig @uncnsrd
Just received a phone call. To maximize my chances of being considered

"mission essential," I have to cancel the second week of my leave and

report back in on Monday. This does not please me overly much.


And now leave is uncancelled. This leaves me with a great deal of confidence, I assure you.

[#] Fri Oct 04 2013 17:07:44 EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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Just the potential result of uploading closest source programs to
AWS.

Next problem is, you probably won't even be able to ssh there.

Real men compile to bytecode ;) And SSH is easily dealt with (Rightscale)

[#] Fri Oct 04 2013 22:12:45 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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just to get laid off 3 days later...

dothebart can't get laid off. He's in Europe. Once you hire someone there you're stuck with them forever.

[#] Sat Oct 05 2013 00:03:33 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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Fri Oct 04 2013 22:12:45 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored
just to get laid off 3 days later...

dothebart can't get laid off. He's in Europe. Once you hire someone there you're stuck with them forever.

well, when messing with company policy, thats probably a whole other thing.

however, yes, unless you offensive do something wrong (stealing, destructing stuff), and the company doesn' t close, its hard.

There is a system called "Abmahnung" when you do something wrong by not following best practices; 3 times that, and you can count yourself as fired too.

there is however a case of a mechanic master that got fired in the age of 50 because he wouldn't educate on modern cars; so staying up to date is another requirement not to be fired.

 

I don't like your nose anymore, you may stay at home now is not as easy.



[#] Sat Oct 05 2013 10:52:13 EDT from Sig @ Uncensored

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I usually describe my exit from my last IT job (desktop/network support for the Navy) as "being fired for being right all of the time."

[#] Tue Oct 08 2013 18:40:00 EDT from Ladyhawke @ Uncensored

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Sig, If I didn't know better, I'd think we worked for the same employer....



[#] Wed Oct 09 2013 05:04:58 EDT from dothebart @ Uncensored

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I would sugest the german word "Klugscheisser" here then ;-P



[#] Thu Oct 10 2013 16:42:32 EDT from Sig @ Uncensored

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Trying to put together a resume is depressing beyond words.

[#] Thu Oct 10 2013 18:25:43 EDT from zooer @ Uncensored

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Yes, it is.

[#] Thu Oct 10 2013 18:56:10 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Having the resume shot down repeatedly for a long time just adds to the depression.

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