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[#] Sun Aug 25 2013 13:41:32 EDT from anonymous @ Uncensored

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I hear ya bro. I've got a whole department full of problem children, a few of whom are *very* disrespectful.

[#] Sun Aug 25 2013 20:30:36 EDT from vince-q @ Uncensored

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Aug 20 2013 6:31am from fleeb @uncnsrd

Heh... 'as a manger'.

I will hold your baby, rocking the little tike to sleep.

I probably should try to get into management. There are a lot of
hints that I might be good at that. Not sure how one transitions to
that line of work, though.

Well, I don't know about "your line of work" but in the Wonderful World of Public High School Education it goes like this.

1. those who can, do. Those who can't, teach. The exception is mathematics and the sciences.
2. those who can't teach become Phys.Ed. teachers..
3. those who can't teach Phys.Ed. become Guidance Counselors.
4. those who fail at being a Guidance Counselor become Assistant Principals.
5. the worst of the Assistant Principals become Principals.
6. Eventually, horrible Principals become Superintendent of Schools - in a different school district.

And that is the "Peter Principle of Public Education." And I can tell you from observing this nonsense first-hand during my 31-year career teaching Physics and Calculus in three different public school districts in New Jersey that Every Blessed Word is Absolutely True!!!

[#] Mon Aug 26 2013 15:49:24 EDT from Ladyhawke @ Uncensored

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So this is creepy.

I met a person in the course of an interaction that required use of my real name.  Nonetheless, other than this, I was careful about how much information I gave out.  No other personal information, except my broadest location ("Northeast US") and the name of my huge employer.  And I have a very common name.

However, since my employer apparently has a full, public-facing employee directory, complete with emails, phone numbers, and location information, I was subsequently able to not only be located, but also directly contacted by this individual through the use of this directory.  And then using the details obtained from that directory, also hunted down on LinkedIn and other social media locations.

So much for PII security!

[#] Mon Aug 26 2013 19:44:54 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Hrm... you oughta have a discussion with your huge employer about that. I suspect something is not quite right. At least, I suspect they could be at risk for a lawsuit if something happened to someone because of that amount of information being made available like that.

[#] Tue Aug 27 2013 12:07:28 EDT from Ladyhawke @ Uncensored

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I actually did go to my manager and report it.  And believe it or not, his response to me was:  "Well, they didn't give your position information, so it's fine."  When I pointed out that this was not only a PII issue - but a personal security issue, he basically said that he was sure they had thought of that!  Oddly, I'm finding it surprisingly difficult to identify an internal infosec person to report it.

<shakes head>

[#] Thu Aug 29 2013 07:35:58 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Well, then, sue the company. Maybe you'll get a little extra cash out of their stupidity.

[#] Thu Aug 29 2013 19:37:19 EDT from Ladyhawke @ Uncensored

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Heh.  It's been my experience that suits rarely work out well for the little guy.

[#] Thu Aug 29 2013 22:48:58 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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1. those who can, do. Those who can't, teach. The exception is
mathematics and the sciences.

I like how you excluded yourself there :)

[#] Mon Sep 02 2013 05:21:45 EDT from vince-q @ Uncensored

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Aug 29 2013 10:48pm from IGnatius T Foobar @uncnsrd
1. those who can, do. Those who can't, teach. The exception is
mathematics and the sciences.

I like how you excluded yourself there :)

To teach mathematics or the sciences you must actually **know** things. It simply cannot be faked, or done in "edu-speak" or other such babble.

To teach mathematics you must know theorems and how to prove them, and you must be able to convey this skill to your students.

Similarly, to teach the physical sciences you must have a complete fluency in mathematics - the more the better.

As I have told **many** an English teacher, "I can go to your classroom, right now, and deliver your next class, with virtually no preparation, using nothing more than my Villanova education. Tell you what, I'll go teach your lesson on 'Othello in the context of contemporary inter-racial marriage' and you go down to my room and give my scheduled lecture on electromagnetic wave propagation.

I have yet to encounter an English teacher worthy of that challenge.

Point proven.

[#] Mon Sep 02 2013 11:02:43 EDT from zooer @ Uncensored

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You need to ask a tenured professor, they don't care anymore.

[#] Tue Sep 24 2013 12:02:38 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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I want to get all of the people who are demanding my undivided attention today on a big conference call so they can fight over me while I go somewhere else to be productive.

[#] Thu Sep 26 2013 12:47:00 EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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My "urge to go postal" is directly proportional to the volume of loud, only-half-workplace-related ad-hoc conversation right next to my unshielded desk. Get a room, people! #MogSmash #WhereIsMogAnyway

[#] Thu Sep 26 2013 12:48:00 EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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I want to get all of the people who are demanding my undivided
attention today on a big conference call so they can fight over me
while I go somewhere else to be productive.

Only if none of them have an accent. "If you have an accent, you shouldn't be on a conference call." --name withheld.

[#] Thu Sep 26 2013 17:52:51 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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That's actually a bit of a real problem. Some people have thick accents that make their communication almost completely unintelligible. For positions requiring a great deal of communication with customers this disqualifies them.
Someone with enough butthurt could easily mistake this for racism.

[#] Thu Sep 26 2013 18:50:25 EDT from zooer @ Uncensored

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The only problem is the NY city accent. And I don't care which boroughs, neighborhood or county you are from.

[#] Thu Sep 26 2013 21:45:33 EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored

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Combine "accent" with "soft spoken" and it's a recipe for disaster. One of our devs is unintelligible via phone when we do our morning meeting. If I'm in remotely I can't understand a word. It's just a bit better when I'm in the office for that meeting. This person becomes easier to understand when spoken to one-on-one, strangely.

[#] Sat Sep 28 2013 10:10:09 EDT from anonymous @ Uncensored

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Dere's no such ding as a joisey accent or a NY accent.
So jus fuggedaboudit.
Ya joiks.

[#] Sun Sep 29 2013 18:03:31 EDT from fleeb @ Uncensored

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So, at a time when a lot of people with my skills seek work, but know that many of the jobs we held were shipped overseas, it's kind of offensive to take a phone call from someone offering me a job while maintaining an Indian or Pakistani accent. Especially when you cannot understand the person well, because the accent is too thick.

It really makes you want to firebomb businesses.

[#] Mon Sep 30 2013 13:25:42 EDT from Ladyhawke @ Uncensored

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I hear that, Fleeb.  Not bad enough they're outsourcing the they're outsourcing the recruiters, too.  Though I suppose if they're going to seek the majority of their workforce elsewhere, it does kind of make sense, however odious.

[#] Mon Sep 30 2013 13:28:07 EDT from Ladyhawke @ Uncensored

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This is how my last call went.


On a completely unrelated note:  Left a request for assist (on behalf of a friend) regarding a sysadmin issue in the MicroBashing room, if anyone's got a moment.

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