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[#] Sat May 06 2023 21:41:52 UTC from xhabit

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Sun Apr 02 2023 13:03:07 EDT from darknetuser

 but I dislike the trend.

 me too, and the point about cloud. the best way to spy, is force this trend. make it easy to use, and poeple will use it. and mostly they dont know, now they stay naked 



[#] Mon May 08 2023 21:03:01 UTC from darknetuser

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 but I dislike the trend.





 me too, and the point about cloud. the best way to spy, is force
this trend. make it easy to use, and poeple will use it. and mostly
they dont know, now they stay naked 


I was not talking specifically about the fact people is using clouds (aka other people's computers) as much as about the fact people abuses cloudesque technology.

There is no reason why a php web application with a SQL database should support docker installs only.

[#] Fri May 12 2023 20:43:50 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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There is no reason why a php web application with a SQL database
should support docker installs only.

Because the publisher of the application can't or won't commit the time required to support every halfwit n00b trying to install it on every version of every operating system on a million different kinds of hardware.

Trust me, as someone who still does that, I can attest that it totally blows and I'd rather not do it. I have a lot of sympathy for someone who says "here's the source if you want to build it yourself, but don't ask for support." And since this is The Workplace room, I'll add that you shouldn't be trying to do anything that silly in an environment that you want other people to be able to help support. Here's the software (container) and here's where we're running it (cluster or host).

[#] Sat May 13 2023 00:23:28 UTC from darknetuser

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2023-05-12 16:43 from IGnatius T Foobar
There is no reason why a php web application with a SQL database

should support docker installs only.

Because the publisher of the application can't or won't commit the

time required to support every halfwit n00b trying to install it on

every version of every operating system on a million different kinds of

hardware.

Trust me, as someone who still does that, I can attest that it totally

blows and I'd rather not do it. I have a lot of sympathy for someone

who says "here's the source if you want to build it yourself, but don't

ask for support." And since this is The Workplace room, I'll add that

you shouldn't be trying to do anything that silly
in an environment
that you want other people to be able to help support. Here's the

software (container) and here's where we're running it (cluster or

host).



I am a bit of a distro / OS maintainer for a number of systems.


I don't expect upstream to test their software against every supported combination of libraries, kernels, database drivers and interpreters. However, I think basic instructions for manual builds are the bare minimum.

"This project is tested under X with libraries Y and Z and K and we build it using $build_system"

Distro maintainers and OS porters will deal whith the hiccups of packaging your project for use with a weird combination of libraries and kernels if need be. However, if my reference platform for a task is a BSD and the developper official stance is "We deploy only flatpacks, here is the source code but no build documentation is included because you are to use the flatpack" then the probabilities of me bothering porting your project drop.

There is this darknetuser policy: I NEVER care for something more than the person who should be caring the most about it*. If upstream does not care if a piece of software works out of a narrow framework, neither do I.

* This policy I apply mostly to relationships. If somebody is not willing to put the work needed for a relationship or friendship to prosper I won't put the work in either.

[#] Sat May 13 2023 15:53:14 UTC from Nurb432

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I second that. 

I dont expect hand holding but i also dont expect restraints either..

Fri May 12 2023 08:23:28 PM EDT from darknetuser
 "We deploy only flatpacks, here is the source code but no build documentation is included because you are to use the flatpack" then the probabilities of me bothering porting your project drop.


 



[#] Sat May 13 2023 18:12:42 UTC from LadySerenaKitty

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I am the exact opposite.  I say "here's the sauce" but I don't provide anything else, except for a build guide written for FreeBSD.  It is up to the end-user or the porter to adapt my instructions for their OS.



[#] Mon May 15 2023 13:14:48 UTC from Nurb432

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Checking for the famed '26GB windows patch' again today, and they added even more OSS stuff to the menu..   This is really odd. Security was so dead set against it. Did i get transported to the twilight zone?

 

  • Python is there  AND pip...  ( and pip works. tho the install paths are off, i need to look at that a bit )
  • Rstudio
  • VLC
  • GIMP
  • iTunes ( true not oss, but..  a music app is approved for everyone??? )
  • Visual studio code ( for the entire enterprise??? )

 



[#] Mon May 15 2023 14:25:21 UTC from darknetuser

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2023-05-13 14:12 from LadySerenaKitty
I am the exact opposite.  I say "here's the sauce" but I don't
provide anything else, except for a build guide written for
FreeBSD.  It is up to the end-user or the porter to adapt my
instructions for their OS.


The point is, if there are instructions, that is ok.

[#] Mon May 15 2023 18:01:02 UTC from Nurb432

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Or at the least not engineered to hinder ..

Mon May 15 2023 10:25:21 AM EDT from darknetuser
2023-05-13 14:12 from LadySerenaKitty
I am the exact opposite.  I say "here's the sauce" but I don't
provide anything else, except for a build guide written for
FreeBSD.  It is up to the end-user or the porter to adapt my
instructions for their OS.


The point is, if there are instructions, that is ok.

 



[#] Tue May 16 2023 03:00:52 UTC from IGnatius T Foobar

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and kernels if need be. However, if my reference platform for a task is

a BSD and the developper official stance is "We deploy only flatpacks,

here is the source code but no build documentation is included because

you are to use the flatpack" then the probabilities of me bothering
porting your project drop.

That's not what I do, as you can plainly see because my main project is a few rooms over there ---

My stance is: here's the source, here's the documentation, there are build instructions and we try to keep it as portable as we can. But if you want any chance of getting installation support, you'd better be using one of _our_ builds because I'm not going to set up an instance of some weird distro that only six people in the world are using just to reproduce your build problem.

And again, this is "The Workplace" room, so to tie it back ... for internally built software, yes, you'd damned well better be using the toolchain I told you to use.

[#] Tue May 16 2023 11:13:56 UTC from Nurb432

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We had a guy do the opposite.

Hes long gone.

Server had to be upgraded ( here an OS version upgrade is a tear own and rebuild with a new name so we break everything )

"what is on here, how does ti work"   "i donno, i warned you to document that stuff before he left. Good luck"

Mon May 15 2023 11:00:52 PM EDT from IGnatius T Foobar
And again, this is "The Workplace" room, so to tie it back ... for internally built software, yes, you'd damned well better be using the toolchain I told you to use.

 



[#] Thu May 25 2023 06:48:55 UTC from LadySerenaKitty

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Started the day by opening Shipt and taking BOTH of the prescription deliveries at CVS in Leon Valley, at $8 each.  Then there were 2 moar deliveries from H-E-B in Spring Branch.  Deliveries in that area take forever because it's all rich people with their McMansions and their fancy HOAs and stuffs, houses are spaced 1,000 feet apart at the MINIMUM and up to half a mile apart.  $15.21 and $23.01.

Then the nearest Shipt order was in LaVernia.  Nope, not gonna drive to LaVernia from Spring Branch, so I fired up Uber and started heading to my usual service area: a rather large range from Windcrest and Kirby going up between I-35 and FM-78 up to Schertz and Cibolo.

Cruising south on US-281, an UberX order came in.  $20.96 for the hour long drive from Spring Branch to New Braunfels.  NICE!  Other 2 orders were $19.33 for an Uber Comfort ride, and $4.97 for an UberX.  It was 19:40 when I dropped the last one off, so I headed home.  Finished the day with a Little Caesar's delivery for $2.61.  Not worth it, but meh.

 

With all that, I brought in $102.09 today, and all on less than a quarter tank of explodey juice.



[#] Fri May 26 2023 18:01:42 UTC from test2

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don't tell uncle scam, he'll want his cut for the big guy.



[#] Fri May 26 2023 18:15:52 UTC from Nurb432

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Since its all app based, the fed already knows. 

Fri May 26 2023 02:01:42 PM EDT from test2

don't tell uncle scam, he'll want his cut for the big guy.



 



[#] Fri May 26 2023 21:28:38 UTC from Nurb432

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Wife ordered some food, including ice cream, from local grocery.  I guess a block away from the store, our delivery person got rear ended..  



[#] Mon May 29 2023 18:32:20 UTC from LadySerenaKitty

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Tell me you live in Baltimore without telling me you live in Baltimore.

Fri May 26 2023 17:28:38 EDT from Nurb432

a block away from the store, our delivery person got rear ended..  



 



[#] Mon May 29 2023 22:34:35 UTC from Nurb432

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No.  Central Indiana. 

Mon May 29 2023 02:32:20 PM EDT from LadySerenaKitty

Tell me you live in Baltimore without telling me you live in Baltimore.

Fri May 26 2023 17:28:38 EDT from Nurb432

a block away from the store, our delivery person got rear ended..  



 



 



[#] Sun Jun 04 2023 03:29:02 UTC from LadySerenaKitty

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Fuckin' shit!  Today was a TRAGEDY.  Went to work, FUCKIN NOTHIN ALL DAY!  Out of 4 times I went to the airport, I had to sit around for A FUCKIN HOUR before getting a passenger.  Third time arriving at the TNF lot, I was backing into a parking spot when DING DING DING.  Got lucky that time.  With the amount of time I was AFH (away from home) I should have way moar than $73.

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[#] Sun Jun 04 2023 12:57:00 UTC from Nurb432

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Dont they pre-order your services? Or are you doing it like a taxi, just get in line and wait for someone to climb aboard?

Sat Jun 03 2023 11:29:02 PM EDT from LadySerenaKitty

Fuckin' shit!  Today was a TRAGEDY.  Went to work, FUCKIN NOTHIN ALL DAY!  Out of 4 times I went to the airport, I had to sit around for A FUCKIN HOUR before getting a passenger.  Third time arriving at the TNF lot, I was backing into a parking spot when DING DING DING.  Got lucky that time.  With the amount of time I was AFH (away from home) I should have way moar than $73.

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[#] Sun Jun 04 2023 12:59:50 UTC from Nurb432

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Err i meant at the airport.  i know you do service-on-call for the rest



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