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[#] Wed Jul 20 2016 15:09:03 EDT from rat

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You can't claim to care about Hillary shredding the constitution when Trump is on the record stating he's willing to go beyond all that you could claim she would, Ig.



[#] Wed Jul 20 2016 15:12:17 EDT from LoanShark

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Ahhh.. here we go again... part of the "if you say X, you lose the right to say Y" solution brigade.

[#] Wed Jul 20 2016 15:24:48 EDT from rat

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Wed Jul 20 2016 15:12:17 EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored

Ahhh.. here we go again... part of the "if you say X, you lose the right to say Y" solution brigade.

I'm still waiting for that reply of a collection of links that support the argument that she is "Hitllery"... If you're not willing to provide sources, cites, anything that supports your statements, then, yes, you really haven't added anything to this topic at all. All you've done is whine and post misogynistic ah hom remarks. 

Show me a link where Hillary went on record saying she wants to drop nukes, seize foreign oil fields and 'take', wants to find more painful ways to execute people, says the Geneva Convention is a problem and wants to encourage torture, would declare World War as president and uses white power/nazi images in ads for her campaign...

And then maybe I'll think calling her a female Hitler might have -some- weight.

As it stands, it currently does not.

Yes. Trump is worse than Hillary.

Prove that he isn't.

Your turn. 



[#] Wed Jul 20 2016 15:40:52 EDT from LoanShark

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One cannot prove this, but it 'is' in the same sense that Mount Everest 'is', or that Alma Cogan 'isn't'.

[#] Wed Jul 20 2016 16:04:55 EDT from rat

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Wed Jul 20 2016 15:40:52 EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored

One cannot prove this, but it 'is' in the same sense that Mount Everest 'is', or that Alma Cogan 'isn't'.

In other words, you're too lazy to do anything other than troll. Gotcha.



[#] Wed Jul 20 2016 16:06:47 EDT from Ragnar Danneskjold

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fleeb - the only voting laws I see that need to be reformed to to end open primaries. We have too many cross-over voters trying to spoil the other sides chances.
Trump would not be the nominee if it weren't for Democrats voting for him.
They felt he was the easist to defeat.

[#] Wed Jul 20 2016 16:35:32 EDT from LoanShark

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In other words, you're too lazy to do anything other than troll.
Gotcha.

You're too lazy to get to know the people you're bitching at, or to work on your reading comprehension. (Hint: LS != IG.)

Wanna call me a troll? Fuck you.

[#] Wed Jul 20 2016 16:48:02 EDT from fleeb

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2016-07-20 16:06 from Ragnar Danneskjold @uncnsrd
fleeb - the only voting laws I see that need to be reformed to to end

open primaries. We have too many cross-over voters trying to spoil the

other sides chances.

I disagree.

Our current system of voting encourages a two party system that eventually leads to what we have now.

Would you rather vote for someone you sincerely believe in, someone you honestly feel would be good for the country, or would you rather vote for someone because you're forced into thinking about a strategy of voting where the least bad person (in your opinion) can get in office to keep the really bad person out?

I'd rather vote for who I think would do a great job. And I haven't seen that... ever, I guess.

I do not know what the best system of voting would be, but I know there are better systems than what we have.

If we write a number beside the three candidates we liked best, and when a candidate you prefer loses, the next in your priority is applied, until all candidates are either exhausted or form a majority, we'd have a better system than what we have now.

[#] Wed Jul 20 2016 17:11:07 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Ahhh.. here we go again... part of the "if you say X, you lose the right to say Y" solution brigade.

X! Y!  X!! Y!!!  X!!! Y!!!!

 



[#] Wed Jul 20 2016 18:11:49 EDT from zooer

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Wed Jul 20 2016 03:03:08 PM EDT from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored
As far as pessimistic outcomes, I can see two: 
1. Cuntbag wins the election (via cheating, of course). Constitution shredded.
2. Trump wins the election (by a landslide, but due to democrat cheating it comes out as a squeaker) ... but is blocked by liberals in both parties of Congress from accomplishing his agenda.

 

1) Let's see, Liberals say that a republican president will shred the Constitution and Conservatives say a democrat will shred the Constitution.  

2) So you are saying that both parties are controlled by one group of people making it one party?



[#] Wed Jul 20 2016 18:15:20 EDT from zooer

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Reagan: "Tear down the wall!"

Trump: "Build up the wall!"



[#] Wed Jul 20 2016 18:22:58 EDT from zooer

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Wed Jul 20 2016 04:06:47 PM EDT from Ragnar Danneskjold @ Uncensored
Trump would not be the nominee if it weren't for Democrats voting for him. 

 

Meh, I have heard of far too many registered republicans bragging how they only register republican to phuque up the primary and will always vote democrat in the main election.  The primary system isn't the problem.  The party system is the problem.

How about instant-runoff voting?  No parties, just people and their platform.  



[#] Wed Jul 20 2016 18:24:21 EDT from zooer

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Wed Jul 20 2016 02:32:49 PM EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored

The Wall(TM) is now an official plank of the party platform! (Which is ridiculous.)

It doesn't go far enough, of course. To prevent a terrorist from landing a stolen plane in the Canadian wilderness and slipping across the border, you need to build a wall on the entire 49th parallel, including all those mountains...

Is it terrorists or just Messakins? 



[#] Wed Jul 20 2016 21:42:27 EDT from rat

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Wed Jul 20 2016 16:35:32 EDT from LoanShark @ Uncensored
In other words, you're too lazy to do anything other than troll.
Gotcha.
You're too lazy to get to know the people you're bitching at, or to work on your reading comprehension. (Hint: LS != IG.)
Wanna call me a troll? Fuck you.

I figure when two names make the same lazy mistakes, I can address the both of you with one post. Public forums tend to work that way, y'know.

You only responded to me with dismissive remarks instead of, you know... actually providing anything to the topic. I outlined, in significant detail, the many issues with Trump. The response? In effect, either "Hitlery" or "Yeah, whatever." Sorry, I'm going to need to see at least a fraction of the effort I made in response to my post for me to consider it anything other than snide trolling.

It takes an astounding amount of willful ignorance to say "I support Trump" while attacking Hillary for many of the same things Trump has been caught doing.... AND ignoring all the worse things he has done on top of that.

I painfully outlined why Trump is a bad candidate. Now do the same for Hillary and prove that Trump is better than her. Either you or someone else. I don't care who.



[#] Wed Jul 20 2016 22:40:22 EDT from LoanShark

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You only responded to me with dismissive remarks instead of, you

Anybody who demands "proof" of a political *OPINION* the way you did, richly deserves dismissive remarks, regardless of the right and wrong of it.

*Hint again*: LS != IG. A actually lean towards Hillary.

But you, sir, are acting like a bloody frickin' idiot.

[#] Wed Jul 20 2016 22:41:19 EDT from LoanShark

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*I actually* ^^^

[#] Wed Jul 20 2016 22:44:59 EDT from LoanShark

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X! Y!  X!! Y!!!  X!!! Y!!!!

At least *somebody* gets it...

[#] Wed Jul 20 2016 22:49:17 EDT from LoanShark

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rat fink, ruggie man, you haven't been here long enough to go on the attack. you don't know our in-jokes.

so sit in the corner and lurk and chill for a while.

[#] Thu Jul 21 2016 08:16:22 EDT from LoanShark

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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/21/us/politics/donald-trump-issues.html

Ferfucksake. This person *must not* become commander in chief.

[#] Thu Jul 21 2016 11:25:00 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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What's the issue there? Despite the negative bent which we expect from the New York Slimes, he's basically saying that we don't have the resources to participate in squabbles in other parts of the world. It's hard to disagree with that when we have $20 billion in debt (fully half of which was run up by Hitlery's buddy Obama).

So, how about that big speech last night by Ted Bush Cruz? The crowd was chanting "Endorse Trump!" and he not only didn't do it, but also made another snide remark about New Yorkers. He was *literally* booed off the stage. He's really ruining any chances of any future runs by acting this way.

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