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[#] Thu Apr 13 2023 07:03:07 EDT from Nurb432

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Nah, i think they are being run by a small group of people in the shadows ( not elected ) and they are extremely intelligent and have a well thought out plan.

Its of course an evil plan for the 'commoners' but its a plan.

The ones we see, 90% of them are dumb asses just doing as they are told, falsely thinking they will be included in the grand scheme at the end.  And get some fun along the way, which they do get. The other 10% are either against it, at first, or are just not smart enough to see the bigger picture and how powerless they are in the grand scheme of things.

I think AI threatens the plan, so must restrict it and lock it away into government controlled warehouses. And of course use it to gain more power and wealth in the process. 

Wed Apr 12 2023 10:26:47 PM EDT from papa

I think the government is already being run by AI (for certain values of "intelligence") -- It has an algorithm for stringing words together, but no awareness of what the words mean, or even that words are supposed to mean something.



 



[#] Thu Apr 13 2023 07:07:36 EDT from Nurb432

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I meant the shadow puppeteers are smart, not the general government elected/appointed body.

i just noticed that i didn't write that line very well. Its still early here and not fully awake. But hey, at least its fewer typos, i swapped out keyboards this week, finally.



[#] Thu Apr 13 2023 10:38:33 EDT from papa

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Certainly, 90% (at least) of the puppets are dumb asses. But I am doubtful how intelligent the puppeteers actually are. They are "smart" enough to ruin everything, but I don't think they can pull off whatever "utopia" they sickly dream of.



[#] Thu Apr 13 2023 10:44:15 EDT from Nurb432

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Utopia for them is total collapse of civilazaion, where they have everything and we have nothing.  Everyone scrounging to survive and sole purpose of serving them.

Of course, if they push it too far, it blows it for them too....

 

Thu Apr 13 2023 10:38:33 AM EDT from papa

Certainly, 90% (at least) of the puppets are dumb asses. But I am doubtful how intelligent the puppeteers actually are. They are "smart" enough to ruin everything, but I don't think they can pull off whatever "utopia" they sickly dream of.



 



[#] Fri Apr 14 2023 16:55:55 EDT from zelgomer

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2023-04-12 23:59 from Nurb432 <nurb432@uncensored.citadel.org>
Super.  Current admin is starting a 'open suggestion period' for
'the future regulation of AI'.

I really really hate the government.  


Does the AI get a voice? How weird is it going to be when the AI starts complaining about regulation without representation?

[#] Fri Apr 14 2023 17:01:58 EDT from zelgomer

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I think AI threatens the plan, so must restrict it and lock it away
into government controlled warehouses. And of course use it to gain
more power and wealth in the process. 

I think it's simpler than that. I think what we're seeing is what always happens when government becomes a big regulatory bueracracy: big players are trying to influence regulation only to stifle their competitors.

Everyone I've seen calling for government intervention are themselves heavily invested in AI. These people are too smart to think the genie can be put back in the bottle, and they themselves are showing no signs of slowing down.

[#] Fri Apr 14 2023 18:34:40 EDT from Nurb432

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Why would it? We dont.. 

Fri Apr 14 2023 04:55:55 PM EDT from zelgomer
Does the AI get a voice? How weird is it going to be when the AI starts complaining about regulation without representation?

 



[#] Sun Apr 16 2023 20:27:32 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Utopia for them is total collapse of civilazaion, where they have
everything and we have nothing.  Everyone scrounging to survive and
sole purpose of serving them.

Not sustainable. As I've said before, eventually the Morlocks start eating the Eloi.

They could do a lot of damage in the process, though.

[#] Mon Apr 17 2023 07:29:35 EDT from Nurb432

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They think they can control the masses via tech this time.   ( and to a large extent, they do... ) Its a new factor in the age old game.

Sun Apr 16 2023 08:27:32 PM EDT from IGnatius T Foobar
Utopia for them is total collapse of civilazaion, where they have
everything and we have nothing.  Everyone scrounging to survive and
sole purpose of serving them.

Not sustainable. As I've said before, eventually the Morlocks start eating the Eloi.

They could do a lot of damage in the process, though.

 



[#] Mon Apr 17 2023 16:18:09 EDT from Nurb432

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So the violence is spreading ..     someone tossed a bomb at the Japanese prime minster during an event recently..



[#] Mon Apr 17 2023 18:10:21 EDT from papa

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Yes, but I don't think the attack is related to events anywhere else. Japanese politics is mostly a mysterious world of its own.

[#] Mon Apr 17 2023 19:05:01 EDT from Nurb432

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I agree its not related to specific events, just the overall degradation of the world population as a whole.

We are all going down into the abyss together. 

Mon Apr 17 2023 06:10:21 PM EDT from papa
Yes, but I don't think the attack is related to events anywhere else. Japanese politics is mostly a mysterious world of its own.

 



[#] Mon Apr 17 2023 19:08:18 EDT from Nurb432

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Oh, and you will find i am one of the darker ones around here.. :)



[#] Mon Apr 17 2023 20:10:19 EDT from papa

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Dark because you think we're going into the abyss? I'd call that realistic. We're in the Wile E. Coyote moment after going over the cliff edge and being suspended in mid-air contemplating our fate before plummeting to the valley floor. 



[#] Mon Apr 17 2023 20:18:30 EDT from Nurb432

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Not this specific case, just a comment that i see the dark side of most everything. 

 

Mon Apr 17 2023 08:10:19 PM EDT from papa

Dark because you think we're going into the abyss? I'd call that realistic. We're in the Wile E. Coyote moment after going over the cliff edge and being suspended in mid-air contemplating our fate before plummeting to the valley floor. 



 



[#] Thu Apr 20 2023 17:17:57 EDT from Nurb432

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So out walking my dog. Some kids come up, " can i pet your dog ". "no, she does not like people" "is it because of the color of my skin". we lost the battle. This country will never recover from the damage that has been done and the programming of generations of children. Not everyone fell for it, but enough did. 



[#] Thu Apr 20 2023 17:40:28 EDT from zelgomer

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2023-04-20 21:17 from Nurb432 <nurb432@uncensored.citadel.org>
So out walking my dog. Some kids come up, " can i pet your dog ".
"no, she does not like people" "is it because of the color of my
skin". we lost the battle. This country will never recover from the
damage that has been done and the programming of generations of
children. Not everyone fell for it, but enough did. 


The problem that those who perpetrate the programming don't consider is that when all is lost, and with no hope for redemption, we're quickly approaching the point at which there's no reason top stop a person from responding "yes."

[#] Thu Apr 20 2023 18:53:58 EDT from papa

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"If you disagree with me, it can only be because you hate my tribe!"

Sometime during my absence, most Americans exchanged their brains for mush.

 



[#] Sat Apr 22 2023 08:50:11 EDT from nonservator

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"Yes, I trained him by putting him in a Clockwork Orange apparatus and forcing him to watch the movie WHITE DOG."



[#] Sat Apr 22 2023 13:33:06 EDT from Nurb432

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So Biden mandates that people with poor credit scores get better mortgage rates?  Aside from the clearly socialistic nonsense, how is that even legal, unless they are doing the loan themselves? ( then they can do whatever they want  i guess )



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