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[#] Thu Apr 01 2021 19:05:56 EDT from zooer

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It was never news, it was always propaganda.
There is an old saying... it has been attributed to Mark Twain, and Thomas Jefferson... and I am sure others.  It was at a time when newspapers were the source of information...

"If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed,
If you do read the newspaper you are misinformed."

Apply that to all forms of media now.



[#] Fri Apr 02 2021 12:14:50 EDT from Nurb432

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I dont know if i would go so far to say it all has been, forever. I do remember honest reporting when i was younger.   Was it everywhere? No. But it did exist.  Mostly at the local level.  

There are still bits and pieces of it today,but its really hard to find, and when you do, the MSM/Tech cartels snuff it out.



[#] Sat Apr 03 2021 09:02:56 EDT from Nurb432

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The removal of Trump from news, social media, etc ( and soon, history books ) reminds me of what happened to Akhenaten and his wife Nefertiti     Not for the exact same reasons, but they did go against the 'accepted norm' and their legacy eradicated due to it. 



[#] Sat Apr 03 2021 11:13:21 EDT from nonservator

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Sat Apr 03 2021 09:02:56 AM EDT from Nurb432

The removal of Trump from news, social media, etc ( and soon, history books ) reminds me of what happened to Akhenaten and his wife Nefertiti     Not for the exact same reasons, but they did go against the 'accepted norm' and their legacy eradicated due to it. 



 

It's not "the right" being attacked.

It's everyone who is insufficiently left.



[#] Sat Apr 03 2021 11:35:45 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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Not untrue. But - those who are insufficiently left would still rather give comfort to their actually enemies rather than to openly agree with anything or anyonone the Right - and that is a huge part of the problem. 

Sat Apr 03 2021 11:13:21 EDT from nonservator

 

Sat Apr 03 2021 09:02:56 AM EDT from Nurb432

The removal of Trump from news, social media, etc ( and soon, history books ) reminds me of what happened to Akhenaten and his wife Nefertiti     Not for the exact same reasons, but they did go against the 'accepted norm' and their legacy eradicated due to it. 



 

It's not "the right" being attacked.

It's everyone who is insufficiently left.



 



[#] Sat Apr 03 2021 12:25:54 EDT from Nurb432

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I do agree, and we may all get erased from history in time.  But currently they have to eradicate the person that inspires the movement the most. I dont want to say 'leader' but i dont have a better term at the moment.

Sat Apr 03 2021 11:13:21 EDT from nonservator

 

 

It's not "the right" being attacked.

It's everyone who is insufficiently left.



 



[#] Sat Apr 03 2021 14:58:53 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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I dont know if i would go so far to say it all has been, forever. I
do remember honest reporting when i was younger.   Was it
everywhere? No. But it did exist.  Mostly at the local level.  

Was there honest reporting ... or is it that we simply never heard other viewpoints because there was no way for anyone to communicate them?

[#] Sat Apr 03 2021 15:01:43 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Some of you might have heard that Pete Buttplug wants to tax transportation by the mile now. And to prove that he has a sufficient amount of hypocrisy to be a demo-KKK-rat, he traveled in a fleet of SUVs to a location where he rode a bicycle for 100 feet to do a photo op and tell everyone how he's riding a bicycle to work.

Of course, you don't have to know the back story to know the story isn't real. Pete prefers bicycles with no seats.

[#] Sat Apr 03 2021 16:42:21 EDT from zooer

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Sat Apr 03 2021 03:01:43 PM EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

Some of you might have heard that Pete Buttplug wants to tax transportation by the mile now. And to prove that he has a sufficient amount of hypocrisy to be a demo-KKK-rat, he traveled in a fleet of SUVs to a location where he rode a bicycle for 100 feet to do a photo op and tell everyone how he's riding a bicycle to work.

Of course, you don't have to know the back story to know the story isn't real. Pete prefers bicycles with no seats.

 

Taxing by mile is nothing new, it will probably become the norm as electric cars become more popular.  They can't get the gas taxes, they will get it by charging per mile. 



[#] Sat Apr 03 2021 18:23:14 EDT from Nurb432

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Its also to push people towards mass transit .  Personally owned cars = freedom. Cant have that. 

 

And those of us with ICEs, get screwed twice by the new tax.  Again, part of the plan. 

Sat Apr 03 2021 16:42:21 EDT from zooer

 

Sat Apr 03 2021 03:01:43 PM EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

Some of you might have heard that Pete Buttplug wants to tax transportation by the mile now. And to prove that he has a sufficient amount of hypocrisy to be a demo-KKK-rat, he traveled in a fleet of SUVs to a location where he rode a bicycle for 100 feet to do a photo op and tell everyone how he's riding a bicycle to work.

Of course, you don't have to know the back story to know the story isn't real. Pete prefers bicycles with no seats.

 

Taxing by mile is nothing new, it will probably become the norm as electric cars become more popular.  They can't get the gas taxes, they will get it by charging per mile. 



 



[#] Sun Apr 04 2021 06:21:05 EDT from zooer

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What bothers me the most about Buttigieg is how Pravda (the media) went along with the charade. 



[#] Mon Apr 05 2021 15:47:13 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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Taxing by mile is nothing new, it will probably become the norm as
electric cars become more popular.  They can't get the gas taxes,
they will get it by charging per mile. 

All other things being equal, it is actually far more fair that way, because the electric car dweebs wouldn't be driving on roads subsidized by fuel taxes.

However! A fairly implemented mileage tax must be levied as a REPLACEMENT to fuel taxes, rather than in addition to them. The chances of a bunch of tax-and-spend communist demoKKKrats doing THAT are slim to none. That's the real problem.

[#] Mon Apr 05 2021 16:08:19 EDT from Nurb432

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LOL when have you ever seen a replacement tax ? Its always additional..  I cant even remember a temporary tax sun-setting...

Mon Apr 05 2021 15:47:13 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar
Taxing by mile is nothing new, it will probably become the norm as
electric cars become more popular.  They can't get the gas taxes,
they will get it by charging per mile. 

All other things being equal, it is actually far more fair that way, because the electric car dweebs wouldn't be driving on roads subsidized by fuel taxes.

However! A fairly implemented mileage tax must be levied as a REPLACEMENT to fuel taxes, rather than in addition to them. The chances of a bunch of tax-and-spend communist demoKKKrats doing THAT are slim to none. That's the real problem.

 



[#] Mon Apr 05 2021 19:01:35 EDT from zooer

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Mon Apr 05 2021 03:47:13 PM EDT from IGnatius T Foobar
 A fairly implemented mileage tax must be levied as a REPLACEMENT to fuel taxes,

ahahahahahahahahahaaaaaa



[#] Tue Apr 06 2021 17:39:34 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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I got a letter from the Republican National Committee begging for money.
It begins with the worst possible opening:

"I have to ask ... have you given up on us?"

I actually took time to write a note and spent the money on a stamp to tell them exactly why they're not getting any money, and to request removal from their mailing list.

[#] Wed Apr 07 2021 08:24:15 EDT from Nurb432

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Yes.  Next question? 

Tue Apr 06 2021 17:39:34 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

"I have to ask ... have you given up on us?"

 



[#] Wed Apr 07 2021 11:13:01 EDT from ParanoidDelusions

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They don't realize the harm they've done right? 

I mean, I've basically gone from highly political to apolitical. My friends who are still leaning party Right - but who do believe the election was stolen - I keep telling them, "If you're right about the latter, than supporting the former means nothing. Don't you get that?" If their response to having the election stolen, and we know it, and they know it, was to go, "Just play along and don't disrupt the system, and in fact, let's turn on the guy who got cheated because he is a threat to our political establishment," then they're on the same side as the people who stole the election. They ARE the ones who stole the election. 


Republicans lack of outspoken outrage - their response in circling their wagons with the Democrats around the Political Establishment - can only be proof of two things... 

A: The election really wasn't stolen - and Trump lost to a senile old man who couldn't generate any excitement and a Jr. Congresswoman with little experience who couldn't get 1% of her own primary vote. 

B: It was stolen as much by the Republicans as the Democrats. 

One of these seems far more likely to me. 

 

Tue Apr 06 2021 17:39:34 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

I got a letter from the Republican National Committee begging for money.
It begins with the worst possible opening:

"I have to ask ... have you given up on us?"

I actually took time to write a note and spent the money on a stamp to tell them exactly why they're not getting any money, and to request removal from their mailing list.

 



[#] Wed Apr 07 2021 13:24:41 EDT from Nurb432

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I pretty much have always leaned far right. But never considered myself a member of any party on that side.

 

If i *had* to choose id go with libertarian. but not Republicans, as they are part of the problem.   They may be the only practical option for getting elected on that side of the isle ( at a national level anyway ) but does not mean i have to like it as there isn't much of a gap between the 2 main parties when you really look close. Only their words are different. Actions and outcomes, not much difference.



[#] Wed Apr 07 2021 14:04:26 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar

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The problem there is that the "Libertarian Party" are not true libertarians.
They are basically democrats who also want to legalize all drugs.

The republican party is about 50/50 conservatives vs. establishment scum.
The democrat party is 100% establishment scum. The green party has Richard Stallman in it -- enough said.

[#] Wed Apr 07 2021 14:16:47 EDT from Nurb432

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Oh, i agree. that is why i dont consider myself part of their party either.    Just if i was *forced* to pick .. 

 

Wed Apr 07 2021 14:04:26 EDT from IGnatius T Foobar
The problem there is that the "Libertarian Party" are not true libertarians.
They are basically democrats who also want to legalize all drugs.

The republican party is about 50/50 conservatives vs. establishment scum.
The democrat party is 100% establishment scum. The green party has Richard Stallman in it -- enough said.

 



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