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[#] Sun Jan 02 2011 14:05:52 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Ford, is there any chance that you've got coax running where you need the network? If so, you could just buy another MI424WR on eBay and bridge it back to the MoCA environment you've already got in place.

Otherwise, what you're describing *can* be done, but not with an off-the-shelf router. Is the device you want to attach an ordinary computer? If so, you're better off just buying a PCI wifi card. Or you could buy a pair of HomePlug bridges and send the network signal over your power lines.

[#] Sun Jan 02 2011 21:56:02 EST from Ford II @ Uncensored

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Otherwise, what you're describing *can* be done, but not with an
off-the-shelf router. Is the device you want to attach an ordinary
computer? If so, you're better off just buying a PCI wifi card. Or
you could buy a pair of HomePlug bridges and send the network signal
over your power lines.

Well that's the problem the machine (an ordinary PC) has a pci wifi card in it and it loses signal all the time.
So I bought my parents a shiny new super range n router and then ran into the political problem of the havoc it would cause to take out the old one and put the new one in and reconfigure it. So I'm trying to think of ways to make it go without having to touch the existing router.
My dad said he tried a range extender/reamplifier (I forget what they're called) half way between floors 1 and 3 where the router and the PC are with no effect.
Didn't know about homeplug bridges though. I'll check that out, thanks. Do they actually work?

[#] Mon Jan 03 2011 06:43:39 EST from dothebart @ Uncensored

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hm, maybe an USB plug one would allso do the job? you can put a longer wire inbetween the thumd thing and the PC to find a place with better reception



[#] Mon Jan 03 2011 08:09:59 EST from mcbridematt @ Uncensored

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I use a pair of HomePlugs, they work well, get around 80mbit/s sustained throughput without issues. Latency is around 3ms.

If you are looking for one, make sure they use the 'AV' standard (200mbit/s physical layer), not the earlier models.



[#] Tue Jan 04 2011 12:33:46 EST from Ford II @ Uncensored

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If you are looking for one, make sure they use the 'AV' standard
(200mbit/s physical layer), not the earlier models.

thanks for the tip.

[#] Thu Jan 06 2011 12:30:00 EST from skpacman @ Uncensored

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Ok.. this is odd.


From work, with my web server and citadel server running, I can't access any of my other ports except for 80.


When I disable (shutdown) the VM's for web and citadel, I can connect to all of my other ports. (5800, 10000, etc...)


Is there any explaination for that or am I going insane?

I havent tried running web and citadel on a different machine on network because i dont have a 2nd machine to do so...

-- 
Stephen D King
Network Admin
Blurred Vizion Studios
outsider@blurredvizionstudios.com



[#] Thu Jan 06 2011 17:27:47 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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We did something kinda cool today.

A caption company wants to do captioning in Israel, but obviously can't afford either the phone lines to Israel, or to hire/train writers in Israel.

So, they want to use our TCP/IP based solution.

Unfortunately, their writers kept having drop-outs and so on when they tried to connect to our machine over there.  But, we didn't have these problems.

After examining some network packets, it seems there's something very bad that leads to occasional dropped IP packets and such when the west coast tries to communicate to this box.  But the East coast doesn't have these problems.

So, we routed the a/v and steno feeds to one of our boxes in the east coast (where the writers have no problems connecting), and had the writers connect to the east coast instead of directly to Israel.  Worked like a charm!

This would not have worked if we hadn't designed the product in a unix-like way.



[#] Thu Jan 06 2011 23:24:57 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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When I disable (shutdown) the VM's for web and citadel, I can connect
to all of my other ports. (5800, 10000, etc...)

IP address conflict?

[#] Thu Jan 06 2011 23:26:21 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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After examining some network packets, it seems there's something very
bad that leads to occasional dropped IP packets and such when the
west coast tries to communicate to this box.  But the East coast
doesn't have these problems.

Clever solution, but it only goes to underscore how inferior the West Coast is. Now it is time to get a bunch of gangsta rappers to have extremely violent fights over packet routing.

[#] Fri Jan 07 2011 07:37:44 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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Yeah, in some ways, I don't understand why the west coast would have these problems.  You'd think someone could route around them.



[#] Mon Jan 10 2011 10:25:12 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Either the network actually is broken, or there's a race condition somewhere in the stack that is exposed by the extra 80 ms of latency.

[#] Wed Feb 02 2011 00:43:09 EST from Harbard @ Uncensored

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Looks like the internet is full up.....

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/02/110201101621.htm?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+sciencedaily+%28ScienceDaily%3A+Latest+Science+News%29

 

I thought we had a backup plan: IPv6.  Wasn't that ready to be implemented?



[#] Wed Feb 02 2011 04:01:00 EST from mcbridematt @ Uncensored

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Wed Feb 02 2011 12:43:09 AM EST from Harbard @ Uncensored

 

I thought we had a backup plan: IPv6.  Wasn't that ready to be implemented?

Its here. Blame the beancounters if your ISP doesn't have it.



[#] Wed Feb 02 2011 21:00:21 EST from Ford II @ Uncensored

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Its here. Blame the beancounters if your ISP doesn't have it.

waste of money. Wouldn't it be cheaper to write a small layer of bigger ip address routing on top of your favorite ip layer than to buy all this fancy new ipv6 hardware?

[#] Thu Feb 03 2011 15:02:32 EST from Spell Binder @ Uncensored

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You'd still end up needing new hardware.

Sure, you could modify the software on hosts and routers to accomodate any kind of expanded addressing scheme, but with the amount of traffic carried by modern routers, you'd be hard pressed to make a software-only solution capable of handling those loads. Some kind of hardware assist would still be necessary for performance reasons.
FastPath Binder

[#] Fri Feb 04 2011 17:49:14 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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I thought we had a backup plan: IPv6.  Wasn't that ready to be
implemented?

World IPv6 Day is on June 8. Everyone ready?

[#] Fri Feb 04 2011 19:07:06 EST from fleeb @ Uncensored

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I suspect not, as I don't know if anyone has ever heard of world IPv6 day.  I certainly haven't.



[#] Sun Feb 06 2011 14:20:31 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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Google, Fecesbook, Yahoo, Akamai, and a bunch of other major players will be advertising IPv6 records in the DNS for their main sites for 24 hours on that day. In other words, if you have IPv6, you'll be able to get to Google via IPv6 at google.com or www.google.com instead of ipv6.google.com.

The idea is for everyone to get a chance to see what works and what breaks when IPv6 is deployed as a top-level protocol instead of a side offering.

[#] Mon Feb 07 2011 12:52:02 EST from Spell Binder @ Uncensored

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Bah! I say that the switch should be permanent starting June 8th.

If there are problems, they're going to be hot-potatoes regardless of whether those companies switch back or not. None of them are going to have much tolerance for downtime. Once those problems are fixed, the costs of switching over would essentially have been amortized, so what would they be buying by only doing IPv6 for 24 hours?

The one big reason I could see why they're only doing a temporary switch is the worst-case where there's some kind of issue that can't be resolved in that 24 hour period. I'm not an admin of any large network, but I would think that any problem that couldn't be solved within a 24 hour period would affect more than just IPv6 service.
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[#] Mon Feb 07 2011 17:26:58 EST from IGnatius T Foobar @ Uncensored

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There's no rule that says they have to switch back. A very real possibility is that the results are pleasing enough that many of the participants keep the IPv6 switched on.

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